1953 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 I've read some s**t on here over the past few weeks, but not much tops this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 4 hours ago, Selred said: Twice in the Championship........ Just like MT, then . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 If you look at videos of him his finishing ability doesn't seem to be a problem, in fact, it's very good. If you then considered he has had lean patches before then all he probably needs is to play himself into form. He has actually been getting chances in virtually every game and snatching at them - strikers that don't step up don't tend to suddenly find that they can't finish anymore, they stop being able to find space and make chances for themselves - This has not been Taylors problem so I'd say there is a good chance he will find his goalscoring touch again. Also, It's easy to say he's not championship quality but current stats suggest he is - 9 starts 2 goals 5 assists would be about 10 goals 25 assists if he kept that up starting every game over a full season. he has actually been getting chances and in virtually every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Give the guy a chance. I think next season he will come into his own. Yes he's got the baggage of coming to us via the gas, but he is our player now and we should be supporting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstart Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Total sh*t stir of a thread - how about congratulating and getting behind a bloke who played a big part in keeping us up. Who would you have played in his place? Bet you're a Tomlin lover too - I know who I'd rather be paying my hard earned bunts to watch in a City shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 hour ago, RichardEdd said: If you look at videos of him his finishing ability doesn't seem to be a problem, in fact, it's very good. If you then considered he has had lean patches before then all he probably needs is to play himself into form. He has actually been getting chances in virtually every game and snatching at them - strikers that don't step up don't tend to suddenly find that they can't finish anymore, they stop being able to find space and make chances for themselves - This has not been Taylors problem so I'd say there is a good chance he will find his goalscoring touch again. Also, It's easy to say he's not championship quality but current stats suggest he is - 9 starts 2 goals 5 assists would be about 10 goals 25 assists if he kept that up starting every game over a full season. he has actually been getting chances and in virtually every game. That would be a phenomal contribution. Conor Hourihane had the highest amount of assists this season with 14. Second place had 10, which MT has got to half of in 9 starts and 6 sub appearances, that is very impressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 7 hours ago, Swede said: In fairness to Matty Taylor its a big step up from the lower leagues to Championship. I think overall he's done pretty well considering he's also had some minor injuries to contend with. His work rate & movement is good. He's snatched at a few and probably felt a little out of place but the cross for Brownhill's goal at Brighton shows just what he's capable of & I was really pleased for him for that alone to show, that indeed, he does belong here. In my view he needs to work on his first touch, he also needs to be fitter and stronger. All this can be achieved with a proper pre season with us & I feel sure with better coaching we will see a better, more confident player next season. As for others who have made their way from the dark side, I'll give you Peter Beadle. A very good centre forward who could link up with anybody. Raise you Brian Williams. I loved old barrel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 3 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Just like MT, then . .......and one in the FA Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 12 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: I agree, but ultimately he has to score goals. I didn't watch him much when he was with the Gas - how did he get so many goals for them? What sort of goals? 68 in 134 games - can't comment on how his goals have come Hes not what I expected at all - doesn't look a natural finisher to me , snatches at chances , then you look at his goal return for the Sags , but then they were in the main scored in the Bananarama and L2 Found these if anyone genuinely interested in his type of goals Bit stomach churning having to watch Sag goals but need to remember he ours now Edit In fairness - those videos suggest he certainly can finish and all sorts of finishes tbf Doesnt show missed chances of course Wont find the same room at this level but hopefully he will stop,snatching when a couple go in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 5 hours ago, forbespm said: Apart from 2 goals,5 assists,good workrate,intelligent link up play he hasn't, offered much I think you need to see what the Romans did for us. so far Matty Has done the same but no hospitals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkz 76 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 I honestly think it's Matty just settling in after all we are the biggest club he has played for maybe just nerves in front of goal. Matty obviously has a good eye for goal it's just a confidence thing in front of goal. I'm sure next year when he fully adapts to the level and starts scoring regularly he will kick on and prove he belongs at this level and don't forget he has been playing second fiddle to the wonderful form of Tammy Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 He's been involved with 7 goals, so already his value per goal he's involved with is just under £43,000. not bad for his first half season at the club if we don't look at him as the #1 striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 21 hours ago, Shtanley said: Relative to most championship players. Not like he's gonna be a burden to us or anything. Maybe compared to the top payers, but he's one of our higher earners and we pay pretty well compared to most in this league (judging by accounts and stats posted on here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 On 09/05/2017 at 08:37, Super said: How do you know what wages he is on? Be amazed if he is one of the highest earners. About the only inside knowledge I've got, someone i play with coaches at Rovers and it was the talk of the club when we swooped in offering him 5x his current wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Just now, MarcusX said: About the only inside knowledge I've got, someone i play with coaches at Rovers and it was the talk of the club when we swooped in offering him 5x his current wage. That's no surprise. I cant imagine he was on serious money in League 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 I sometimes wonder if some on here just glean all their football 'knowledge' from video games...perhaps MT is not a hit on their games, but he certainly is a very worthwhile addition to the real squad. Would rather him in the squad than Tomlin...every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 14 minutes ago, MarcusX said: About the only inside knowledge I've got, someone i play with coaches at Rovers and it was the talk of the club when we swooped in offering him 5x his current wage. What would he have been on at Rovers 2k a week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 31 minutes ago, Super said: What would he have been on at Rovers 2k a week? Would tie in with the £10k / week the Sags claim he is getting with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 14 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Would tie in with the £10k / week the Sags claim he is getting with us So miles from being one of the highest earners here then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Super said: So miles from being one of the highest earners here then. Don't know about miles Super - I don't know the wages But if you go back to the 'Cafe document' (below) (which I was told is authentic - and I don't know whether it is but seemed about right to me) The top earner by that doc are (Tomlin &GON only) are on £15000 basic and after that £10k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 10 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Don't know about miles Super - I don't know the wages But if you go back to the 'Cafe document' (below) (which I was told is authentic - and I don't know whether it is but seemed about right to me) The top earner by that doc are (Tomlin &GON only) are on £15000 basic and after that £10k BBSB - I still cannot believe this is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, Davefevs said: BBSB - I still cannot believe this is real. Out of interest , why not Dave ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Out of interest , why not Dave ? Although it looks like it's got a fair bit of detail in it, I actually think it looks far too basic to form any financial use, even in summary form. If I was putting together a spreadsheet / printout to do some projections or understand my base, I'd expect it to be more rich in data than that. If I'm wrong and this really is real, then our approach to contractual finance looks a bit amateurish. Even my own home finance spreadsheets are much more advanced than this. Perhaps it's a data sheet used by the Football Manager researcher (Barnesy?) for the database. Do you know something I don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonRobin Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Out of interest , why not Dave ? I agree with Davefevs in that I can't believe it's genuine. Davefevs has made some really good points around professionalism and I'd like to add something else. If you look at the bottom left it says: NO Mawson, NO Canos, NO New GK, NO Kent I really can't believe that a genuine club document referencing the wages would contain details of potential transferees either in that format or on such a document. The club must have many 'irons in the fire' regarding incomings so just to limit it to those few seems a little suspicious. Especially when you think those names were the ones being touted in the media / in the spotlight last summer. For that reason it looks like a hoax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Although it looks like it's got a fair bit of detail in it, I actually think it looks far too basic to form any financial use, even in summary form. If I was putting together a spreadsheet / printout to do some projections or understand my base, I'd expect it to be more rich in data than that. If I'm wrong and this really is real, then our approach to contractual finance looks a bit amateurish. Even my own home finance spreadsheets are much more advanced than this. Perhaps it's a data sheet used by the Football Manager researcher (Barnesy?) for the database. Do you know something I don't? No mate , not at all purely a hunch - think the wages look about what Id expect , even Vyner with small wage but decent appearance money if he makes first team Agree it looks a bit basic but seen plenty of docs from organisations f similar quality and depends who was playing with the figures I might be wrong but didn't Wes's dad confirm the doc was authentic , or at least it's content ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: No mate , not at all purely a hunch - think the wages look about what Id expect , even Vyner with small wage but decent appearance money if he makes first team Agree it looks a bit basic but seen plenty of docs from organisations f similar quality and depends who was playing with the figures I might be wrong but didn't Wes's dad confirm the doc was authentic , or at least it's content ? How would he know, being cynical. Some players are open with what they earn, some agents blab, but some closely guard it. In my line, it's unwritten that we chat about our day rates....it just causes animosity or fibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Just now, Davefevs said: How would he know, being cynical. Some players are open with what they earn, some agents blab, but some closely guard it. In my line, it's unwritten that we chat about our day rates....it just causes animosity or fibs. True Mind you we had a Chief Scout some years back who used to tell players who was earning what !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire Red Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Think we all need to give the guy the benefit of one 'pre-season' with a decent club. He has never had one! Compare; Tammy at Chelsea and City Matty at some crap field in North Bristol Actually I do have my doubts based on his misses (never seen his Mrs) but with the right player alongside him could be the signing of last season (and there were 16 others?) so remain hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 one of the more ridiculous threads of the season,and that's an acheivment. Matty has worked very hard,occupied defenders with tireless running into space thus creating same for Tammy and Pato. Chipped in with a couple of goals (OK,one of which awarded by panel).. Great attiutude during what,let's face it,couldn't have been the easiest of transfers. Small point of seven assists,therefore integral in our upturnn in form/subsequent survival-even accepting he has snatched at chances,maybe a result of trying too hard. And all for 300 grand,in football terms at this level small change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 On 08/05/2017 at 23:30, Shtanley said: 300k and on relatively low wages. Lots of assists for a short city career. This was his first season above League 2 give him a little while to reach his best. 300k is low - but his wages are not low. He is one of our highest earners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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