Lanterne Rouge Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 I thought they might have declared at 400 ahead to give themselves a chance to nip a couple out with the new ball tonight. A quick dash to 450 - 475 in the morning and 5 and a bit sessions for us to save the game. As WTTJ said, pray for rain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Declared 473 ahead. England to face 10 minutes tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 32 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Declared 473 ahead. England to face 10 minutes tonight. Lucky to get through that. Game will be over tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Just now, Super said: Lucky to get through that. Game will be over tomorrow. Yep, for sure. A rest day in the TDF too so what can I watch in the afternoon now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 180 all out by teatime tomorrow. Our lot have neither the attitude or the technique to bat for 2 days in a situation like this, with the exception of Cook and Root. Credit to South Africa for how they batted today. Isn't it amazing what happens when a side applies themselves properly and isn't thinking that they have to score at 4 an over? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 25 minutes ago, Northern Red said: 180 all out by teatime tomorrow. Our lot have neither the attitude or the technique to bat for 2 days in a situation like this, with the exception of Cook and Root. Credit to South Africa for how they batted today. Isn't it amazing what happens when a side applies themselves properly and isn't thinking that they have to score at 4 an over? Add to that a deterioration of the wicket and you have a SA levelling the series. If England can scrape a draw I'll be amazed, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Felt a bit sorry for Moeen at the end when Philander and Morkel were whacking him all over the place. He was still the only bowler to come out with anything like credit though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 On 15/07/2017 at 08:11, RedDave said: The 40th match of the season when you are 14th, miles off promotion and relegation, does it make it irrelevant? I'd say not as I go to be entertained. I know I'm in the minority but I'm not even that bothered about getting promoted! In the scheme of things yes, given that if you finish a few places apart you're potentially starting to look at hundreds of thousands of pounds difference in winnings for league position, maybe getting towards millions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 A long day ahead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Prediction time: Cook and Jennings out by lunch with Ballance falling either just before or after lunch. Root and Bairstow to play like it is a ODI with a similar run-rate and to put on at least 75 between them but will fall before tea. The rest to fall before the Close Of Play with only Stokes and Ali making double figures, but less than 50 between them. Or, Cook bats all day, Jennings lasts till just before lunch, with Ballance going just after Lunch. Root makes it to Close of play, England 345-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Jennings... Not good enough... Thanks for coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Good start... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) First one for the chop is Jennings. Edited July 17, 2017 by Super Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Time we started picking the best Test team, not the highest scoring batsmen from the County Championship. Jennings and Ballance can hit the county bowlers around but they do not have the ability to stick in the crease for a long session at the highest level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Another excellent contribution from Root's bestie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Second one is Ballance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: Time we started picking the best Test team, not the highest scoring batsmen from the County Championship. Jennings and Ballance can hit the county bowlers around but they do not have the ability to stick in the crease for a long session at the highest level. Ian Bell is still better than the pair of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 I'm not convinced by Jennings but he's played 3 Tests and got a hundred in the first one. They aren't dropping him yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just now, Northern Red said: I'm not convinced by Jennings but he's played 3 Tests and got a hundred in the first one. They aren't dropping him yet. Followed by a 2 ball duck, that pitch was unlike anything I've seen in Mumbai - even Yadav hit a ton. Only got double figures twice in last 7 inns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just now, Northern Red said: I'm not convinced by Jennings but he's played 3 Tests and got a hundred in the first one. They aren't dropping him yet. Not the purpose of an opener though imo. Your openers need to be patient and intelligent players. They need to get us through the new ball and earn their runs at a slow pace, gradually building. Part of this is consistency. If you can rely on your openers to wear the ball in, your lower order can earn the big runs easier.Jennings shows none of these traits, with is only real consistency is earning single digit scores. He may be better suited lower down the order, but a Test opener he is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: Not the purpose of an opener though imo. Your openers need to be patient and intelligent players. They need to get us through the new ball and earn their runs at a slow pace, gradually building. Part of this is consistency. If you can rely on your openers to wear the ball in, your lower order can earn the big runs easier.Jennings shows none of these traits, with is only real consistency is earning single digit scores. He may be better suited lower down the order, but a Test opener he is not. I wouldn't disagree with any of that, I just don't think they'll bin him after 3 Tests. I think the original plan was to bat him at 3 with Cook and Hameed opening, but Hameed's lack of runs this season put paid to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 not much fight in this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: Time we started picking the best Test team, not the highest scoring batsmen from the County Championship. Jennings and Ballance can hit the county bowlers around but they do not have the ability to stick in the crease for a long session at the highest level. I'd play Hales. He is a little erratic but with him there is the prospect of him going big every now and then and grabbing control of the game early. Also need to get Root in at 3 to change the succession of early left handers. 2 of them can't cope with either Morkel or Philander not to mention Rabada returning for the next game. South Africa will be stronger in all 3 departments in the next test. That Olivier looks like he was dragged out the pub, has borrowed some whites and is basking in a bit of reflective glory... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Deary me would be looking to drop quite a few after this. Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Gutless, arrogant shithouses who aren't half as good as they think they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 18 hours ago, Northern Red said: 180 all out by teatime tomorrow. Our lot have neither the attitude or the technique to bat for 2 days in a situation like this, with the exception of Cook and Root. . Turns out I was being optimistic on the total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Super said: Deary me would be looking to drop quite a few after this. Pathetic. Just said on Sky Sports that England have lost 7 of their last 10 test matches.......... I didn't realise it was that grim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Bayliss out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 Ballance has broken a finger, likely out of the next Test. Probably a blessing in disguise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) Well done to the women Edited July 18, 2017 by Super 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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