Red Army 75 Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Groundhog Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Stokes struggling here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Stokes won’t last long, all over the place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Stokes massively undercooked but still a better bet than anything else we have...says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Pathetic. Piss off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 What have England done with the Ollie Pope that came into the team and looked a player? It’s painful watching it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Need a biggie partnership from these two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Warney can **** off with his crystal ball methods too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 (edited) We are so poor . Buttler has had a mare of a test Edited December 18, 2021 by Red Army 75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Poor Jos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 For all the talk about Burns he’s the only bloke so far who didn’t get himself out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 What is the point of this in a pandemic? Bring em home if they can't even compete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 It was almost like me tuning in has caused this collapse, we’d be 200/2 if I’d had a lie in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: We are so poor . Buttler has had a mare of a test https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=pig+ian+botham+on+the+oval&docid=608022538716071559&mid=E5238680444C6CBC173AE5238680444C6CBC173A&view=detail&FORM=VIRE Wish this bloke was playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 16 hours ago, bearded_red said: The problem with the current criticism of Burns, not that I disagree, is that of the 15 (fifteen) openers England have brought in since Strauss retired he’s been the most successful, as low a bar as that is. I ultimately don’t think he’s good enough, I refuse to accept you can bat like that and be successful in test cricket and I absolutely accept that watching him crab about is torture, but there is no evidence we have anyone that will do better. It’s almost now a decade since Andrew Strauss retired.. Compton, Root, Carberry, Robson, Trott, Lyth, Moeen, Hales, Jennings (twice), Hameed (twice), Stoneman, Burns, Roy, Sibley and Crawley. They’ve all had a go, none of them have been good enough (I think Hameed deserves a decent crack at it tbf). As sad as it is, Burns has been the best of that lot. So fine drop him, I won’t disagree, but who are we playing? Crawley? He struggles to average 30 in first class cricket let alone test level. Bairstow because he gives the white ball a whack? Fly Sibley over? His technique is even worse than Burns. Not exactly spoilt for choice. As is the case whenever criticising this team (and I’m just as guilty of this as everyone else), you have to accept unfortunately there aren’t good players lining up to take these lads places. Same as any criticism of Root and Silverwood. I essentially think they’re both useless, but have whoever you want as captain and coach. Try winning in Australia with one top class batsmen, one injury prone quick bowler* and no dependable spinners. *Root of course partly responsible for Jofra being broken and unable for selection. Can’t disagree with that. The county championship was scheduled very differently when Strauss, Trescothic, Cook etc we’re learning their trade. I guess you reap what you sow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 (edited) Root & Malan combined 302-2 in this Ashes series so far. All other England partnerships: 314-24. Absolutely pathetic. The best keeper in England never gets selected. What’s Pope done since getting a ton in SA two years ago? Burns crabbing around has never been up to it. Malan’s been overlooked for too long and gets brought back in when he’s 34. Hameed’s worth persevering with, at least he has technique. I’d rather have Livingstone in this XI, batting at 7 and bowling wrist spin but he can’t even get in the squad. Get Foakes in and maybe Yates. I remember the struggling England sides of the ‘90s, but they were were up against a much better quality opposition. McGrath, Warne, Lee etc compared to Richardson and Neser — no contest. This current crop consistently plays poor shots and is unable to soak up any pressure. We will be following on soon enough. The buck stops with the ECB, but the cupboard is pretty bare. Edited December 18, 2021 by tin 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Not wrong is it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Another gutless display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Just take the single !! I don’t understand that in this situation with Broad the other end. But there, Stokes should be the last person on the list to criticise. Did well up to then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 I’m just sick of this England side. Bored to death of the same mistakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 The other worrying thing is that Pat Cummins or Josh Hazelwood are not playing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Smith would be mad not to enforce the follow-on. I reckon we will be 2 or 3 down by the close. I’m in favour of ringing the changes for Melbourne: Hameed, Yates, Malan, Root, Stokes, Foakes (wk), Livingstone, Woakes, Robinson, Wood, Anderson/Broad. At least that XI has more balance and variation to it. It won’t happen, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Aus batting again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 236 all out. Will he or won`t he? Arguments both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Aus batting again? Surely not. It’s the worst time of day for batting, supposedly. Rain forecast for tomorrow as well. EDIT: they are batting again! Edited December 18, 2021 by tin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Australia to smash a quickfire 200+ then put England back in, still 450+ behind, game over. Ashes gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, tin said: Smith would be mad not to enforce the follow-on. I reckon we will be 2 or 3 down by the close. I’m in favour of ringing the changes for Melbourne: Hameed, Yates, Malan, Root, Stokes, Foakes (wk), Livingstone, Woakes, Robinson, Wood, Anderson/Broad. At least that XI has more balance and variation to it. It won’t happen, though. Like the look of that, I would replace Woakes with Mahmood as would like to see more of him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Can’t believe Australia haven’t put us back in. We’re proper shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Perhaps the Aussies are just not afraid of our aging attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Has any team ever been as bad as this while being so old? Could just about accept it if it were a bunch of young lads being thrown in. Only three players in this 11 under 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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