Super Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 I do feel for Leach but he really hasn't bowled that well. Root has got more turn again. Can only see the inevitable tomorrow 220ish all out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Khawaja has more runs in the series than all bar 2 of the England batsmen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Khawaja has more runs in the series than all bar 2 of the England batsmen. He’s also been scoring big runs in the Sheffield Shield, and averages 41 in Test cricket (more than all of our rabble aside from Root). Really poor drop from Root when he was on 28 as well. That should be taken at any level. Then, after we had a good afternoon session, he decides to bowl Malan with Khawaja on 99*. Another innings defeat beckons IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 I don’t think I’m going to bother with English test cricket a long while. It hurts my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Dean Elgar is class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 Your two opening batsmen getting out playing shots like that. Just give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 Bairstow going at almost an odi strike rate. Says it all. Played well but it's not sustainable. That said he could be our first ton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 Great effort by Bairstow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 Why do we leave it until the 4th test to show a bit of fight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) What's happened to Buttler? Not sure he has ever wanted to be on this tour. Harmison thinks its the end of his test career. Edited January 7, 2022 by Super Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 Credit to Stokes, Wood and obviously Bairstow today, but we’re still 158 behind and will be batting last on an uneven track unless rain saves us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 Surely "England showing fight" is a minimum requirement for the ashes. Im not saying credit isnt due, but Bairstow played a white ball innings and was well overdue to make a score. We are still 158 behind with 3 wickets left and more importantly our top order capitulated again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 Lot of rain around next 2 days might be a chance of scraping a draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Super said: What's happened to Buttler? Not sure he has ever wanted to be on this tour. Harmison thinks its the end of his test career. I think it will be too. He looks totally lost and caught between trying to play his natural game and a more traditional Test innings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 Just now, Globe Trotter said: I think it will be too. He looks totally lost and caught between trying to play his natural game and a more traditional Test innings. I'm guessing he'll take over from Morgan and just play the shorter version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Globe Trotter said: He looks totally lost and caught between trying to play his natural game and a more traditional Test innings. This is the issue for a lot of them. Look at Bairstow today - was that a "typical" test match hundred? Too much white ball cricket is the issue, and we all know it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: This is the issue for a lot of them. Look at Bairstow today - was that a "typical" test match hundred? Too much white ball cricket is the issue, and we all know it. Really good thoughts from Stuart Law on TMS during one of the rain breaks today which pretty much nailed it. It`s always good to hear from someone on the outside who can tell it like it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 34 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Really good thoughts from Stuart Law on TMS during one of the rain breaks today which pretty much nailed it. It`s always good to hear from someone on the outside who can tell it like it is. I heard him last night and thought he was excellent! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Really good thoughts from Stuart Law on TMS during one of the rain breaks today which pretty much nailed it. It`s always good to hear from someone on the outside who can tell it like it is. I turned off and went bed when Hamed was bowled - what a shot! - so missed the three wicket collapse just minutes later, together with Stuart Law’s comments. Are you able to outline, briefly, what he said? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: I turned off and went bed when Hamed was bowled - what a shot! - so missed the three wicket collapse just minutes later, together with Stuart Law’s comments. Are you able to outline, briefly, what he said? Thanks. He was really just saying the the Counties need to decide what is more important, trophies or producing players for England and until it`s the latter England will continue to fail. He talked a lot about pitches and groundstaff preparing wickets to suit their own side and suggested that the preparation should be ECB controlled with the staff as employees of them which seemed a bit of a long shot to me. The timing of the red ball season was also discussed with his preferred option being the 50 over tournament being in April/early May, then go to the CC with a break in mid summer for the T20 and that damned Hundred and then back to the CC. He was in favour of a 9/9 divisional split so each county gets a game `off` for r&r. There was lots more too but I admit I was half-asleep listening! @BanburyRedmight be able to fill in a bit more! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: He was really just saying the the Counties need to decide what is more important, trophies or producing players for England and until it`s the latter England will continue to fail. He talked a lot about pitches and groundstaff preparing wickets to suit their own side and suggested that the preparation should be ECB controlled with the staff as employees of them which seemed a bit of a long shot to me. The timing of the red ball season was also discussed with his preferred option being the 50 over tournament being in April/early May, then go to the CC with a break in mid summer for the T20 and that damned Hundred and then back to the CC. He was in favour of a 9/9 divisional split so each county gets a game `off` for r&r. There was lots more too but I admit I was half-asleep listening! @BanburyRedmight be able to fill in a bit more! You've just about covered everything there, @Lanterne Rouge. Like SL said, the counties need to decide if they're developing players and themselves to win the County Championship, or developing players for the England team. I also thought he made an interesting point about the groundstaff, instead of making pitches to suit the respective county teams who play directly on them, making them more representative of pitches they might expect to encounter at test level, which was a point I'd never thought of before, effectively having groundstaff being centrally contracted to the ECB. Like you say LR, very much a long shot. He also made the point that it's nonsense to suggest England came to Australia underprepared, given the amount of test cricket they had already played. More like underprepared when they arrived, with no effective contingency once Australia XI warm up games weren't available due to COVID etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 Twenty20 internationals: New fielder penalty for slow over-rates - BBC Sport A minor rule change or the first small step towards merging the two formats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: He was really just saying the the Counties need to decide what is more important, trophies or producing players for England and until it`s the latter England will continue to fail. He talked a lot about pitches and groundstaff preparing wickets to suit their own side and suggested that the preparation should be ECB controlled with the staff as employees of them which seemed a bit of a long shot to me. There was lots more too but I admit I was half-asleep listening! Thanks for your response - you obviously managed to stay awake for longer than me. 2 hours ago, BanburyRed said: Like SL said, the counties need to decide if they're developing players and themselves to win the County Championship, or developing players for the England team. I also thought he made an interesting point about the groundstaff, instead of making pitches to suit the respective county teams who play directly on them, making them more representative of pitches they might expect to encounter at test level, which was a point I'd never thought of before, effectively having groundstaff being centrally contracted to the ECB. On the subject of producing/developing players for the England team, it might help if it could be arranged for First Class matches to be played in the summer; when the sun is (normally) shining for most of the day and both batsmen and bowlers can get used to spending the whole day in the field. The current idea of trying to fit FC matches in during rainy April and, similarly, during September is an expensive folly, weakening the lucrative Test Match side for the benefit of The 100 and its overseas 'stars'. On the subject of producing 'Test Match' pitches as opposed to those favouring their own side, this sounds a wonderful idea in principle, but I remain sceptical. What sort of 'Test Match' pitch does he have in mind? A hard and fast (but perhaps a bit bumpy) one like one might find in The Caribbean; a hard, fast and true one like in Australia, or a dust bowl as one might expect to find in India? I seem to recall that, after years of being criticised for producing 'roads', we (Somerset) tried to produce a spin friendly pitch, but fell foul of the authorities and suffered a points deduction - perhaps we should have sought some advce from Essex, who seem to manage regularly to produce a spin friendly pitch without incurring the wrath of Middlesex's finest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 Braindead from Leach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 That was piss poor. ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 And that (30-0) is our highest opening partnership of this woeful Ashes tour so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 Can we bat all day tomorrow? It looks like the weather will help if nothing else. Billingswatch has been great fun on TMS though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Can we bat all day tomorrow? It looks like the weather will help if nothing else. Billingswatch has been great fun on TMS though! Thunderstorms in steak and kidney tonight. Should dry up though by brekkie tomorrow morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 Not sure if I heard right but this 30 runs is our highest opening partnership in this Ashes and the previous one?! Easy to see where the problem is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 TMS is sh*t now, Jack Crawley and Johnny Bristow in 5 minuets... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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