slartibartfast Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 Please excuse my total ignorance, but , how long has it been law that you can replace an injury with a 12th man who's allowed to bat and bowl (rather than just field ) ? I always thought if someone was injured (retired hurt) that was just tough titty ? It's probably been ages, but just haven't picked up on it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Pope is usually quite positive coming in lower down but you could tell he was nervous at 3, couldn't get going at all and with Lees also not going anywhere, it meant that any momentum from Crawley's start was lost. Any 3 will be nervous with our batting line up, you are likely walking onto the field within the first 10 overs, so need the skills and temperament of an opener. Pope has neither. Bizarre selection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, slartibartfast said: Please excuse my total ignorance, but , how long has it been law that you can replace an injury with a 12th man who's allowed to bat and bowl (rather than just field ) ? I always thought if someone was injured (retired hurt) that was just tough titty ? It's probably been ages, but just haven't picked up on it ! Quite recently; this season, or last at the earliest. The important criterion, however, is that it only applies to concussion injuries. The other important criterion, so make that criteria , is that the substitute must be a 'like for like' player - so Parkinson, a spinner, for Leach, rather than (what might have been useful today) a batsman, like Brook, for example! Edited again, as @phantom has now provided a useful link. Edited June 2, 2022 by PHILINFRANCE 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 2, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Quite recently; this season, or last at the earliest. The important criterion, however, is that it only applies to concussion injuries. A bit more information here https://www.itsonlycricket.com/concussion-substitute 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: Any 3 will be nervous with our batting line up, you are likely walking onto the field within the first 10 overs, so need the skills and temperament of an opener. Pope has neither. Bizarre selection. My guess would be a case of wanting a busy front foot (metaphorically) player at 3 to push us on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 81 overs so far in the test were almost in to the 2nd NZ innings - disgrace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 Great to hear that you are all in agreement with Michael Vaughan as I know how much you all value his opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Great to hear that you are all in agreement with Michael Vaughan as I know how much you all value his opinion. What’s he saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 23 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: Please make it to day 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 Kinda concerning how big the chunks of ground coming out when players are sliding in this test, always reminded of Simon Jones every time it happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 I don't mind low scoring test matches, they can be intriguing. If NZ can stretch a lead to 200+ I wouldn't bank on England getting the runs against Southee and Boult. My biggest complaint about the test match do far is the Sky commentary. While Mark Taylor has been a welcome add for this Shane Warne tribute test, the rest are so bland. It's as if they're all to scared to say anything that could possibly be construed as controversial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I don't mind low scoring test matches, they can be intriguing. If NZ can stretch a lead to 200+ I wouldn't bank on England getting the runs against Southee and Boult. My biggest complaint about the test match do far is the Sky commentary. While Mark Taylor has been a welcome add for this Shane Warne tribute test, the rest are so bland. It's as if they're all to scared to say anything that could possibly be construed as controversial. Let's be honest, there's absolutely no way this England side are chasing anything north of 200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: Let's be honest, there's absolutely no way this England side are chasing anything north of 200. Gonna be 300-350 the way it`s going. You`re going tomorrow aren`t you? A day of NZ piling on the runs till twenty minutes before tea, declaring and England losing six wickets by stumps awaits I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 KP - ‘don’t get me started on county cricket’ Atherton - ‘I won’t actually’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 What a over. Can’t believe Broad gets dropped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Sam Curran was playing in the blast yesterday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Lrrr said: Sam Curran was playing in the blast yesterday... He's been playing all season, although mostly as a batsman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Brilliant from England bowlers this morning. Could we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Good afternoon Nice morning. Can we bat? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Need Joe to dig in now and play one of those innings we know he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 hour ago, TomF said: I’d say 30% chance maybe. Strong opening partnership required That's like asking us to hold on to a 1-0 lead with 5 minutes to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, TomF said: Bairstow will get bowled shortly Brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, TomF said: Bairstow will get bowled shortly Looking that way, why does he waft at wide ones? And just as I write this................................................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Honestly just called Bairstow getting bowled on the last ball of Jamieson's spell (if its his last over) rather than just seeing off the bowler. This is what you get from a player whose just been in the IPL rather than playing red ball cricket for months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Just now, Lrrr said: Honestly just called Bairstow getting bowled on the last ball of Jamieson's spell (if its his last over) rather than just seeing off the bowler. This is what you get from a player whose just been in the IPL rather than playing red ball cricket for months. It doesn`t seem to be bothering Trent Boult too much.............................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: It doesn`t seem to be bothering Trent Boult too much.............................................. I'd argue bowling is an easier mindset to change as its not a case of one mistake and done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 How many games do we have to see Jonny Bairstow fail to ever even look like a top five batsman in test match cricket? He plays as a keeper and bats seven, or he doesn’t play. Surely. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 minute ago, bearded_red said: How many games do we have to see Jonny Bairstow fail to ever even look like a top five batsman in test match cricket? He plays as a keeper and bats seven, or he doesn’t play. Surely. Yep. Waste of a batsman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: It doesn`t seem to be bothering Trent Boult too much.............................................. Different for a bowler I’d say 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Lucky boy Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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