Kid in the Riot Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Globe Trotter said: We are revolutionising Test cricket, fantastic! Indeed. Be very interesting to see if the likes of India and Australia try and follow. They may have to based on our performances so far this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 Jack Leach's position must be under threat as the only batter not to score a boundary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 15 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: Indeed. Be very interesting to see if the likes of India and Australia try and follow. They may have to based on our performances so far this year. Warner decried Englands ‘new’ approach to Test cricket by saying something like “it’s very risky and they’ll come unstuck” - probably Warner having another jibe before the Ashes series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 I know it's a big deal, touring after 17 years . But holding an interview with the Cultural attaché on the boundary during play is a bit much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 Nothing at all for the bowlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, Super said: Nothing at all for the bowlers. Surely going to be a draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 That was close - just touched the ground as it hit Pope’s glove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 Can you shake hands after 2 days?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 Stokes has forgotten that he picked Livingstone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 49 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Stokes has forgotten that he picked Livingstone Jarred his knee while fielding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Jarred his knee while fielding. Ah cheers. Couldn’t watch today. That’s frustrating as he might have been the one to get some turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Ah cheers. Couldn’t watch today. That’s frustrating as he might have been the one to get some turn I haven't seen any of it myself, because I was also wondering why he hadn't bowled, but it was mentioned in the BBC report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Northern Red said: I haven't seen any of it myself, because I was also wondering why he hadn't bowled, but it was mentioned in the BBC report. And mentioned on TMS. He was off the field for a fair while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 It not often that I find test cricket boring but this one is about as dull and drab as it gets. A completely unresponsive wicket is a batsman’s dream and a bowlers treadmill and does nothing to encourage fans to watch the ultimate game. Such a disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, Robbored said: It not often that I find test cricket boring but this one is about as dull and drab as it gets. A completely unresponsive wicket is a batsman’s dream and a bowlers treadmill and does nothing to encourage fans to watch the ultimate game. Such a disappointment. While the pitch has helped, watching England break record after record on day 1 and in the following morning was not boring in the slightest. I am old enough to remember the days when Babar Azam getting to 100 in 126 balls with 13 fours and a six was considered attacking Test cricket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: While the pitch has helped, watching England break record after record on day 1 and in the following morning was not boring in the slightest. I am old enough to remember the days when Babar Azam getting to 100 in 126 balls with 13 fours and a six was considered attacking Test cricket. Tbh - most village cricket teams could have amassed a spectacular score on this wicket so whilst England broke various records in their first innings the pitch really helped - just look how Pakistan are doing pretty much the same. This test has draw written all over it and pitches like this one do absolutely no favours to the reputation of test cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Tbh - most village cricket teams could have amassed a spectacular score on this wicket so whilst England broke various records in their first innings the pitch really helped - just look how Pakistan are doing pretty much the same. This test has draw written all over it and pitches like this one do absolutely no favours to the reputation of test cricket. Rubbish, England didn't 'amass' runs, they scored them at a rate never dreamt of before. Pakistan are 'amassing' runs and the difference is like that of chalk and cheese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Rubbish, England didn't 'amass' runs, they scored them at a rate never dreamt of before. Pakistan are 'amassing' runs and the difference is like that of chalk and cheese. Because of the docile wicket. I repeat most village cricket batsman would have found the wicket relatively easy to bat on. It’s gun barrel straight, no movement off the pitch with a rapid outfield - not what’s needed to promote test cricket. Test wickets should be equally balanced for bat a ball that deteriorate over the five days and this one is anything but. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: Because of the docile wicket. I repeat most village cricket batsman would have found the wicket relatively easy to bat on. It’s gun barrel straight, no movement off the pitch with a rapid outfield - not what’s needed to promote test cricket. Test wickets should be equally balanced for bat a ball that deteriorate over the five days and this one is anything but. They may have found it a little easier than normal, but village cricketers? Come on Robbo, why do you always double down on these crass statements, when someone shows you how inaccurate they are? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: They may have found it a little easier than normal, but village cricketers? Come on Robbo, why do you always double down on these crass statements, when someone shows you how inaccurate they are? The only difficulty that decent village batsman would have had on this wicket is the pace. Few if any village bowlers can bowl at 80mph let alone the 90+ some professionals can achieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Robbored said: The only difficulty that decent village batsman would have had on this wicket is the pace. Few if any village bowlers can bowl at 80mph let alone the 90+ some professionals can achieve. That's just one of the issues, I have known players who have had trials with Gloucestershire and Somerset and almost all were surprised how quick even spin bowling seemed in comparison. My nephew was knocking out runs like nobodies business in local league a few years back and was given a trial at Glos. They put together a game between the firsts and seconds to try out a few lads. He faced one over from Courtney Walsh and swore that he never saw a ball. The size of the outfields was also an issue, he had rarely played anywhere where the boundary was so far away. The step up in class from local league to County level is hard enough, international? Forget it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 All getting a bit interesting now. Another couple of wickets and Pakistan will fancy themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Set them 400 I reckon which is gettable in the time remaining on this wicket. Gives them an incentive to not just see out the game. Been a very interesting test match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Set them 400 I reckon which is gettable in the time remaining on this wicket. Gives them an incentive to not just see out the game. Been a very interesting test match 400 looking unlikely now, well played Harry Brook though. We need to bat out the day now I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 We’ve declared apparently, correct decision if so and love the intent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) Hmm... Well he did say he'd be prepared to lose to try and win. Edited December 4, 2022 by Northern Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Hmm... Well he did say he'd be prepared to lose to try and win. Exactly and quite right too. Gives Pakistan a realistic chance of winning which in turn increases our chances. They’ve talked the talk and I’m glad they’re walking the walk, I’d have no complaints if we lose from this position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Bookies had draw, England win, Pakistan win in that order of likeliness. As soon as England declared it is now Pakistan win, England win, draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Trying to bounce them out on this pitch is interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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