EmersonsRed Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 If James Vince has been recalled it's an embarrassment, Jeetan Patel has more county championship runs this year. We are shambolic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Vince and Ballance?! FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Jonathan Agnew @Aggerscricket·41m Leaked again: Root, Cook, Stoneman, Malan, Ballance, Vince, Moeen, Crane, Foakes, Bairstow, Stokes, Woakes, Broad, Anderson, Ball, Overton. 213278201 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Super said: Jonathan Agnew @Aggerscricket·41m Leaked again: Root, Cook, Stoneman, Malan, Ballance, Vince, Moeen, Crane, Foakes, Bairstow, Stokes, Woakes, Broad, Anderson, Ball, Overton. 213278201 Overton? Really? I know it was rumoured, but I am surprised. Edited to note that Crane has been included, but no place for Jack Leach . Edited September 26, 2017 by PHILINFRANCE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Overton Don't feel Crane is the right choice, no international experience 16 wickets at a 41 average compared to Leach 44 wickets at 27 and Bess 34 at 23 for comparison would mean selecting Crane would be a joke. Vince is an awful selection if ture, averaging 31 this season. Ballance being honest I don't mind seeing as no one is really knocking the door down for a place and it'd be better taking him than Westley. Foakes don't mind as back up keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 3 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Overton? Really? I know it was rumoured, but I am surprised. Edited to note that Crane has been included, but no place for Jack Leach . 3 hours ago, hodge said: Overton Don't feel Crane is the right choice, no international experience 16 wickets at a 41 average compared to Leach 44 wickets at 27 and Bess 34 at 23 for comparison would mean selecting Crane would be a joke. Vince is an awful selection if ture, averaging 31 this season. Ballance being honest I don't mind seeing as no one is really knocking the door down for a place and it'd be better taking him than Westley. Foakes don't mind as back up keeper. All aboard the Crane train! He is a very special talent, I'm a fully paid up member to his fan club, I believe he can do wonderful things for England. However he was left out of England short format to play 4 day for Hamps, couldn't break into their side... Odd one. Like I said, the Vince call up is shambolic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Crane is one of their pet projects that they have every so often. He did play in Australia last winter which probably went in his favour too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Here we are then. Well done Craig. ENGLAND’s SQUAD FOR 2017/2018 ASHES Joe Root, Moeen Ali, James Anderson, Jonny Bairstow, Jake Ball, Gary Ballance, Stuart Broad, Alastair Cook, Mason Crane, Ben Foakes, Dawid Malan, Craig Overton, Ben Stokes, Mark Stoneman, James Vince, Chris Woakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Aussies to lose in my opinion. Lack of real pace that works so well down under, Broad and Anderson are not getting any younger. Can't bat. Could be shambolic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 That squad is shocking. Seems to me that One day cricket is being prioritised. Personally would have picked Hales and Buttler (as a batsman) and taken Rashid. Cook, Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Ali, Woakes, Broad, Anderson. Those 8 know what they're doing. The rest are either untried, unproven or already found out. Balance? The bloke will just be Johnson's bitch if he's picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 26 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: Aussies to lose in my opinion. Lack of real pace that works so well down under, Broad and Anderson are not getting any younger. Can't bat. Could be shambolic Sure Glenn will be predicting a 5-0! I agree looks really week, Obviously Wood isn't fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Super said: Sure Glenn will be predicting a 5-0! I agree looks really week, Obviously Wood isn't fit? No, but do we need him just for some pace? What concerns me is Vince. Why? Edited September 27, 2017 by Welcome To The Jungle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: No, but do we need him just for some pace? What concerns me is Vince. Why? Def need pace over there. last time we won we took Finn and Tremlett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Stokes has fractured finger but likely to be fit for first test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 33 minutes ago, Super said: Def need pace over there. last time we won we took Finn and Tremlett. Whoops. Meant to say we do need him for pace. Agree completely. But it could backfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Gary ******* Ballance. I'm sick of the sight of the fat drip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 With Vince are they hoping that the pitches will be so fast he's not able to nick off to slip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 So for me the only way we can win in Aus is to sort the batting. The solution for me is Root at 3. He needs to step up and be the next Vaughan or Ponting, so if we lose that early wicket, to stand his ground. Even if his average goes down, it would give a chance to whoever is batting 4 and 5 to face and older ball and a less energetic attack, thus scoring more than we'd lose with Root. Also if your captain is willing to take the bull by the horns then others may follow suit and our overall game may improve. I'd also be tempted to play 6 bowlers (I know, I know) as Stokes, Woakes and Moeen are all effectively all-rounders. Take Crane so when the ball gets old, we can spin it both ways with Moeen and Crane. That said I may bring Wood in for Crane if he can prove his fitness as his pace would be valuable. XI for 1st Test Cook Stoneman Root Malan Bairstow Stokes Ali Woakes Broad Anderson Crane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 3 hours ago, The Bard said: That squad is shocking. Seems to me that One day cricket is being prioritised. Personally would have picked Hales and Buttler (as a batsman) and taken Rashid. Cook, Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Ali, Woakes, Broad, Anderson. Those 8 know what they're doing. The rest are either untried, unproven or already found out. Balance? The bloke will just be Johnson's bitch if he's picked. Buttler has played 4 CC games this season and not done well, if you're looking for an alternative to Foakes as back up then I'd have gone with Duckett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Northern Red said: With Vince are they hoping that the pitches will be so fast he's not able to nick off to slip? Pencilled him in for the No 3 slot apparently he'll be fine !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 I think you're right about Root at three @Welcome To The Jungle I just saw this from a Guerilla Cricket listener on twitter, a comparison of Root's overall test average against his average batting at three: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/303669.html?batting_positionmax1=3;batting_positionmin1=3;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class=1;template=results;type=batting;view=innings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 18 minutes ago, MichaelRobartes said: I think you're right about Root at three @Welcome To The Jungle I just saw this from a Guerilla Cricket listener on twitter, a comparison of Root's overall test average against his average batting at three: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/303669.html?batting_positionmax1=3;batting_positionmin1=3;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class=1;template=results;type=batting;view=innings It's a curse Those stats show that Root won't just stop scoring runs, plus he is a better player now. I still believe he could average around the 50 mark at three, which would allow our middle order to score more. If he doesn't then we'll carry one with the losing of early wickets and loads of pressure on the lower order to bail us out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 So why exactly has Crane been picked over Leach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Some innings this by Evin Lewis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: It's a curse Those stats show that Root won't just stop scoring runs, plus he is a better player now. I still believe he could average around the 50 mark at three, which would allow our middle order to score more. If he doesn't then we'll carry one with the losing of early wickets and loads of pressure on the lower order to bail us out. You couldn't have any other curses on you now, that wouldn't be right. With Root at three at England's very good middle/lower order it should take the pressure off the newer guys bedding in, as you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted September 27, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Now video has emerged showing Stokes battering someone, he may not be going to the ashes...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 15 punches. Hales shouting "enough" consistently throughout yet he doesn't stop. Damning video. ECB must take action. Cannot take him, even if it means losing 5-0. P.s Hales kicks the lad on floor in back of head? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 One lad looks as though to calm him down, Stokes just knocks him clean out. It doesn't look good, at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 25 minutes ago, EmersonsRed said: 15 punches. Hales shouting "enough" consistently throughout yet he doesn't stop. Damning video. ECB must take action. Cannot take him, even if it means losing 5-0. P.s Hales kicks the lad on floor in back of head? Have to agree the video is very bad, the other guy may have thrown the first punch but Stokes is just relentless and needs to be made an example of frankly. Make him miss the ashes and it may hit home to sort himself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 I watched ´one killer punch´ last year and from what I have seen Stokes is lucky not to be on a murder charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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