Admin phantom Posted June 29, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 10 hours ago, Up The City! said: How long will they likely get if found guilty? Duckenfield and Bettison's maximum potential sentance is life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 23 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Shame they can't dig her up and change Thatcher and her cronies at the time. CHARGE bleedin typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 On 28/06/2017 at 17:40, AppyDAZE said: Shame they can't dig her up and charge Thatcher and her cronies at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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42nite Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 On 29/06/2017 at 06:35, JasonM88 said: Think it's time for there to be a reminder about we we should and shouldn't post in regards to the trial. Don't think they'll be paying too much attention to little old otib. They've got bigger fish to fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 On 28/06/2017 at 17:40, AppyDAZE said: Shame they can't dig her up and change Thatcher and her cronies at the time. Thatcher and her cronies, eh? Weren't they the leaders of the 'Conservative' party, the very same party that hundreds of thousands of football fans voted for in the recent election? How could any self-respecting football fan vote for those b*stards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 On 2017-6-28 at 19:44, shelts said: A massive Tory cover up . Right from the top. I hope those convicted get time . It was in the past certainly but May deserves credit as the Home Secretary who played a part in finally delivering some justice to the victims and their families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 3 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Thatcher and her cronies, eh? Weren't they the leaders of the 'Conservative' party, the very same party that hundreds of thousands of football fans voted for in the recent election? How could any self-respecting football fan vote for those b*stards? Quite. i didn't and have NEVER voted for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Some fairly recent i.e. this morning news on this. Mackrell found guilty of failing to discharge his duty under the Health and Safety at Work Act. Duckenfield...jury couldn't reach verdict. CPS pushing for a retrial, we should all be VERY careful about what is posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 On 01/07/2017 at 15:03, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Thatcher and her cronies, eh? Weren't they the leaders of the 'Conservative' party, the very same party that hundreds of thousands of football fans voted for in the recent election? How could any self-respecting football fan vote for those b*stards? I don't vote based on the politics of football. Neither do I vote Conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 3, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 The jury in the trial of Hillsborough match commander David Duckenfield has been unable to reach a verdict. Former Ch Supt Duckenfield, now 74, had denied the gross negligence manslaughter of 95 Liverpool fans in the 1989 disaster. Ex-Sheffield Wednesday club secretary Graham Mackrell has been found guilty of a charge under the Health and Safety at Work Act. Jurors at Preston Crown Court spent eight days deliberating. The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has said it will seek a retrial for Mr Duckenfield, of Ferndown, Dorset. During the 10-week trial, jurors heard that 96 men, women and children died as a result of a fatal crush on the Leppings Lane terrace on 15 April 1989. Under the law at the time, there can be no prosecution for a 96th victim, Tony Bland, as he died more than a year and a day after the disaster. The jury deliberated for more than 29 hours but was unable to agree whether Mr Duckenfield was guilty or not guilty of manslaughter by gross negligence. Sue Hemming, legal director of the CPS, said the trial had been "incredibly complex" and she recognised "that these developments will be difficult for the families affected by the Hillsborough disaster". The CPS has now decided to seek a retrial against the former South Yorkshire Police officer, she added. The trial heard Mr Duckenfield ordered the opening of exit gates at the Leppings Lane end of the ground at 14:52 BST, eight minutes before kick off, after the area outside the turnstiles became dangerously overcrowded. More than 2,000 fans entered through exit gate C once it was opened and many headed for the tunnel ahead of them, which led to the central pens where the crush happened. Prosecutors alleged Mr Duckenfield had "ultimate responsibility" at the ground and should have made "key lifesaving decisions" on the day. Mr Duckenfield's defence case lasted just 74 minutes and consisted of read evidence from his deputy on the day - ground commander Bernard Murray. His defence argued the case against Mr Duckenfield was "breathtakingly unfair" and said he had "tried to do the right thing". Mr Mackrell, 69, was convicted of failing to discharge his duty under the Health and Safety at Work Act, by a majority of 10 to two. He was accused of failing to take reasonable care to ensure there were enough turnstiles to prevent large crowds building up. The court heard there were seven turnstiles for the 10,100 Liverpool fans with standing tickets for the match against Nottingham Forest. Mr Mackrell did not give evidence but Jason Beer QC, defending, argued the build-up of fans outside was caused by other factors, including a lack of police cordons and the unusual arrival pattern of supporters. 1 minute ago, CotswoldRed said: I don't vote based on the politics of football. Neither do I vote Conservative. https://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/forum/57-politics-current-affairs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Some fairly recent i.e. this morning news on this. Mackrell found guilty of failing to discharge his duty under the Health and Safety at Work Act. Duckenfield...jury couldn't reach verdict. CPS pushing for a retrial, we should all be VERY careful about what is posted. Words fail me...….. Apparently the judge ruled that Duckenfield should not be cross examined. Bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, phantom said: The jury in the trial of Hillsborough match commander David Duckenfield has been unable to reach a verdict. Former Ch Supt Duckenfield, now 74, had denied the gross negligence manslaughter of 95 Liverpool fans in the 1989 disaster. Ex-Sheffield Wednesday club secretary Graham Mackrell has been found guilty of a charge under the Health and Safety at Work Act. Jurors at Preston Crown Court spent eight days deliberating. The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has said it will seek a retrial for Mr Duckenfield, of Ferndown, Dorset. During the 10-week trial, jurors heard that 96 men, women and children died as a result of a fatal crush on the Leppings Lane terrace on 15 April 1989. Under the law at the time, there can be no prosecution for a 96th victim, Tony Bland, as he died more than a year and a day after the disaster. The jury deliberated for more than 29 hours but was unable to agree whether Mr Duckenfield was guilty or not guilty of manslaughter by gross negligence. Sue Hemming, legal director of the CPS, said the trial had been "incredibly complex" and she recognised "that these developments will be difficult for the families affected by the Hillsborough disaster". The CPS has now decided to seek a retrial against the former South Yorkshire Police officer, she added. The trial heard Mr Duckenfield ordered the opening of exit gates at the Leppings Lane end of the ground at 14:52 BST, eight minutes before kick off, after the area outside the turnstiles became dangerously overcrowded. More than 2,000 fans entered through exit gate C once it was opened and many headed for the tunnel ahead of them, which led to the central pens where the crush happened. Prosecutors alleged Mr Duckenfield had "ultimate responsibility" at the ground and should have made "key lifesaving decisions" on the day. Mr Duckenfield's defence case lasted just 74 minutes and consisted of read evidence from his deputy on the day - ground commander Bernard Murray. His defence argued the case against Mr Duckenfield was "breathtakingly unfair" and said he had "tried to do the right thing". Mr Mackrell, 69, was convicted of failing to discharge his duty under the Health and Safety at Work Act, by a majority of 10 to two. He was accused of failing to take reasonable care to ensure there were enough turnstiles to prevent large crowds building up. The court heard there were seven turnstiles for the 10,100 Liverpool fans with standing tickets for the match against Nottingham Forest. Mr Mackrell did not give evidence but Jason Beer QC, defending, argued the build-up of fans outside was caused by other factors, including a lack of police cordons and the unusual arrival pattern of supporters. https://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/forum/57-politics-current-affairs/ Thanks for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodbarmyarmy Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 What annoys me is that nothing will ever be done about Thatchers blatant cover up of the truth in order to protect her beloved yorks police ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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