havanatopia Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Few people would stop to consider the UK having more tornadoes and twisters than the United States. But that is exactly the case. The United States suffers terrible twister violence but only in a relatively small area, proportional to their massive country, in Kansas and Oklahoma. Few other states have twisters certainly with any seasonal regularity. A glance at a map of Britain tells a whole different story and a study by the University of Manchester has revealed that this fabled land has more twisters than any other on earth. Such is the frequency of twisters or tornadoes it is estimated that there is a 5% chance of one occurring within 6 miles of any given location in the country. So what, you might reasonably ask, has this got to do with a football match between the two BCFC's? Well, quite a lot really. The corridor between Bristol and Birmingham is a hotspot of twisters. And while London to Reading is the Twister Corridor capital of the world with a 6% chance of one occurring each year only slightly more than Bristol to Birmingham and through to Manchester. A 2005 twister in Birmingham recorded speeds of 130mph injuring 19 people, causing £40million of damage and tearing up more than 1,000 trees. And, in just two minutes, a tornado in Kensal Green, North-West London, wrecked property worth £10million in December 2006. According to a Guardian newspaper article, just a week after Birmingham was battered by a tornado, residents in Bristol witnessed a giant twister sweeping across the skies over the southern suburbs. The twister formed on Monday shortly before 7pm as the skies clouded over after a sunny afternoon. The Meteorological Office had confirmed the twister, which was up to 1,000 ft (300 metres) long, came close to causing widespread property damage. "It was a classic funnel cloud, but quite a large one. They are usually measured in tens of feet, but this one was hundreds of feet, if not a thousand," said Damien Lee, a Met Office spokesman. "Had it made contact with the ground, it would have definitely caused localised damage to houses and trees." The twister swept across a 15-mile area, including the suburbs of Whitchurch, Hartcliffe and Keynsham, and eyewitnesses said it lasted for 15 minutes. The spectacle was captured on camera by Mark Gwinnell, 42, as the twister passed over his Whitchurch home. "There was a terrific sound and I looked out of the window and saw this twister coming," he said. "I knew I had to get a photograph of it. It was a huge tunnel of swirling air which got faster and faster." Paul Knightley, of the PA Weather Centre, said the twister was technically not a tornado because it failed to touch the ground. The centre logged up to four funnel clouds across the country yesterday and possibly one tornado. "Funnel clouds and tornadoes happen when you have an unstable atmosphere, where you have warm air rising from the ground and cold air above it," said Mr Knightley. In 2015 the Mail on Sunday wrote an article headlined with this:- England is tornado capital of the world! More twisters per square mile than other nation England has more tornadoes per area than any other country. The Tornado and Storm Research Association advises that two tornadoes in Britain are known to have reached T8; their antiquated nature necessitated great caution in assigning intensities, so it is possible that they may have been even stronger. The first, also Britain's earliest known tornado, occurred on October 23, 1091. The church at St. Mary Le Bow in central London was badly damaged, with four rafters - each 7.9 m long or 26 ft being driven into the ground (composed of heavy London Clay) with such force that only 1.2 m or 4 ft protruding above the surface. Other churches in the area were demolished, as were over 600 (mostly wooden) houses. On December 14, 1810, another T8 tornado tracked from Old Portsmouth to Southsea Common also causing immense damage, although no deaths, it is believed. Some houses were completely levelled and many others were so badly damaged that they had to be demolished; chimneys were blown down and the lead on a bank roof was "rolled up like a piece of canvas and blown from its situation". Manchester University goes on; Tornadoes are impossible to spot on satellite images and weather radar images aren’t always accurate either. They can show rotation where a tornado doesn’t occur and sometimes tornadoes occur where rotation is not shown on the radar. So the only way we know about them for sure is from eye-witness reports. Kelsey added: “It seems that most tornadoes in the UK are created along long, narrow storms that form along cold fronts, whereas most tornadoes in the United States are created by isolated storms, which are more similar to the beautiful super cells you see in the movie Twister. Even in the United States, tornadoes formed along cold fronts tend to be weaker than those formed from super cells. That could be one reason why tornadoes in the UK are much weaker. But the process for how tornadoes form along cold fronts is not yet very well understood. Understanding why is my current research project.” The valley and escarpment corridor from Bristol north with the Cotswolds away to the east, the Malvern's a little further north to the west and on to the Wyre Forest around Kidderminster are prime breeding grounds for twisters as history tells us and how many times I have driven that route and seen dark clouds quickly gathering away to the east and west reminds us that these storms gather quickly. It is a phenomenon that is widely publicized in Kansas or Oklahoma but less written from the shires of England. And as Birmingham City might not be ready for our own new Swedish Tornado spare a thought for those Twisters as you travel north and south on the M5 today; you will not receive a warning perhaps other than those gathering storm clouds and they are more common that the majority of us realise. UTC. Good day all and safe travels. Edited August 12, 2017 by havanatopia 9 3 Quote Link to comment
... Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, havanatopia said: Few people would stop to consider the UK having more tornadoes and twisters than the United States. But that is exactly the case. The United States suffers terrible twister violence but only in a relatively small area, proportional to their massive country, in Kansas and Oklahoma. Few other states have twisters certainly with any seasonal regularity. A glance at a map of Britain tells a whole different story and a study by the University of Manchester has revealed that this fabled land has more twisters than any other on earth. Such is the frequency of twisters or tornadoes it is estimated that there is a 5% chance of one occurring within 6 miles of any given location in the country. So what, you might reasonably ask, has this got to do with a football match between the two BCFC's? Well, quite a lot really. The corridor between Bristol and Birmingham is a hotspot of twisters. And while London to Reading is the Twister Corridor capital of the world with a 6% chance of one occurring each year only slightly more than Bristol to Birmingham and through to Manchester. A 2005 twister in Birmingham recorded speeds of 130mph injuring 19 people, causing £40million of damage and tearing up more than 1,000 trees. And, in just two minutes, a tornado in Kensal Green, North-West London, wrecked property worth £10million in December 2006. According to a Guardian newspaper article, just a week after Birmingham was battered by a tornado, residents in Bristol witnessed a giant twister sweeping across the skies over the southern suburbs. The twister formed on Monday shortly before 7pm as the skies clouded over after a sunny afternoon. The Meteorological Office had confirmed the twister, which was up to 1,000 ft (300 metres) long, came close to causing widespread property damage. "It was a classic funnel cloud, but quite a large one. They are usually measured in tens of feet, but this one was hundreds of feet, if not a thousand," said Damien Lee, a Met Office spokesman. "Had it made contact with the ground, it would have definitely caused localised damage to houses and trees." The twister swept across a 15-mile area, including the suburbs of Whitchurch, Hartcliffe and Keynsham, and eyewitnesses said it lasted for 15 minutes. The spectacle was captured on camera by Mark Gwinnell, 42, as the twister passed over his Whitchurch home. "There was a terrific sound and I looked out of the window and saw this twister coming," he said. "I knew I had to get a photograph of it. It was a huge tunnel of swirling air which got faster and faster." Paul Knightley, of the PA WeatherCentre, said the twister was technically not a tornado because it failed to touch the ground. The centre logged up to four funnel clouds across the country yesterday and possibly one tornado. "Funnel clouds and tornadoes happen when you have an unstable atmosphere, where you have warm air rising from the ground and cold air above it," said Mr Knightley. In 2015 the Mail on Sunday wrote an article headlined with this:- England is tornado capital of the world! More twisters per square mile than other nation England has more tornadoes per area than any other country. The Tornado and Storm Research Association advises that two tornadoes in Britain are known to have reached T8; their antiquated nature necessitated great caution in assigning intensities, so it is possible that they may have been even stronger. The first, also Britain's earliest known tornado, occurred on October 23, 1091. The church at St. Mary Le Bow in central London was badly damaged, with four rafters - each 7.9 m long or 26 ft being driven into the ground (composed of heavy London Clay) with such force that only 1.2 m or 4 ft protruding above the surface. Other churches in the area were demolished, as were over 600 (mostly wooden) houses. On December 14, 1810, another T8 tornado tracked from Old Portsmouth to Southsea Common also causing immense damage, although no deaths, it is believed. Some houses were completely levelled and many others were so badly damaged that they had to be demolished; chimneys were blown down and the lead on a bank roof was "rolled up like a piece of canvas and blown from its situation". Manchester University goes on; Tornadoes are impossible to spot on satellite images and weather radar images aren’t always accurate either. They can show rotation where a tornado doesn’t occur and sometimes tornadoes occur where rotation is not shown on the radar. So the only way we know about them for sure is from eye-witness reports. Kelsey added: “It seems that most tornadoes in the UK are created along long, narrow storms that form along cold fronts, whereas most tornadoes in the United States are created by isolated storms, which are more similar to the beautiful super cells you see in the movie Twister. Even in the United States, tornadoes formed along cold fronts tend to be weaker than those formed from super cells. That could be one reason why tornadoes in the UK are much weaker. But the process for how tornadoes form along cold fronts is not yet very well understood. Understanding why is my current research project.” The valley and escarpment corridor from Bristol north with the Cotswolds away to the east, the Malvern's a little further north to the west and on to the Wyre Forest around Kidderminster are prime breeding grounds for twisters as history tells us and how many times I have driven that route and seen dark clouds quickly gathering away to the east and west reminds us that these storms gather quickly. It is a phenomenon that is widely publicized in Kansas or Oklahoma but less written from the shires of England. And as Birmingham City might not be ready for our own new Swedish Tornado spare a thought for those Twisters; you will not get a warning of their arrival and they are more common that the majority of us realise. especially as you drive up the M5 today. UTC. Good day all and safe travels. ******* Love you. tfj 1 Quote Link to comment
iamalagerdrinker Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Be careful if you're traveling up today.. 9 4 Quote Link to comment
downendcity Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Opened the mdt bit seem to have logged in to National Geographic by mistake. A new season and Havana has raised the bar even higher. Can't wait to see the new format for Big Tone's cpndensed version! 3 2 Quote Link to comment
hoxton casual Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Blimey who knew Michaelwood services was such a terrifying place 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Tears in rain Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, iamalagerdrinker said: Be careful if you're traveling up today.. Looks like a mental Star Wars character 3 Quote Link to comment
miloemily Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Is that meant to be intimidating :laugh: Quote Link to comment
chipdawg Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said: Be careful if you're traveling up today.. Luke Skywalker must be a red http://youtu.be/q1mfxGd0YCw 1 Quote Link to comment
CyderInACan Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Please don't let UTC become a thing 3 Quote Link to comment
exAtyeoMax Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Tears in rain said: Looks like a mental Star Wars character or low budget Dr Who! 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Bristol Rob Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, CyderInACan said: Please don't let UTC become a thing Have you become a timelord? Quote Link to comment
havanatopia Posted August 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, CyderInACan said: Please don't let UTC become a thing Trust Cider IN a can. 1 Quote Link to comment
RightUpInCider Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said: Be careful if you're traveling up today.. Birmingham Yoof never run? More like CAN'T run looking at the size of him! Quote Link to comment
Inactive user Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 4 nil City. We're gonna steam roller them. Quote Link to comment
Izza Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Is there anybody inside, looks like a stuffed scarecrow to me, get back to your field Quote Link to comment
petelekg Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Long shot, does anyone have a spare ticket for today, that I might be able to purchase from you, please?" 1 Quote Link to comment
RUSSEL85 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 The tornado hit my house and did 50 grands worth of improvements . 2 Quote Link to comment
BSme Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said: Be careful if you're traveling up today.. 3 15 Quote Link to comment
brizzlelou Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 16 minutes ago, Tears in rain said: Looks like a mental Star Wars character Lots of those in Brum 1 Quote Link to comment
WestonRobin Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 I wonder if this will be a game of 'twists and turns' or will it be one where we just 'blow' Birmingham away - if we do it surely will be down to Bobby 'Whirlwind' Reid! Quote Link to comment
havanatopia Posted August 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, WestonRobin said: I wonder if this will be a game of 'twists and turns' or will it be one where we just 'blow' Birmingham away - if we do it surely will be down to Bobby 'Whirlwind' Reid! Just kiddin' !! 1 Quote Link to comment
BRISTOL86 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Edited August 12, 2017 by BRISTOL86 2 9 Quote Link to comment
cityal Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) 34 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said: Be careful if you're traveling up today.. Ah Bless!! Mummy let him get his favourite starwars outfit out before bedtime! Edited August 12, 2017 by cityal 1 Quote Link to comment
Red Army 75 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 43 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said: Be careful if you're traveling up today.. Looks like Zippy 2 1 Quote Link to comment
miloemily Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 18 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: I remember when these were 10p! 1 4 Quote Link to comment
brizzlelou Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 48 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said: Be careful if you're traveling up today.. Where did you get this from? Quote Link to comment
Major Isewater Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 hour ago, havanatopia said: Few people would stop to consider the UK having more tornadoes and twisters than the United States. But that is exactly the case. The United States suffers terrible twister violence but only in a relatively small area, proportional to their massive country, in Kansas and Oklahoma. Few other states have twisters certainly with any seasonal regularity. A glance at a map of Britain tells a whole different story and a study by the University of Manchester has revealed that this fabled land has more twisters than any other on earth. Such is the frequency of twisters or tornadoes it is estimated that there is a 5% chance of one occurring within 6 miles of any given location in the country. So what, you might reasonably ask, has this got to do with a football match between the two BCFC's? Well, quite a lot really. The corridor between Bristol and Birmingham is a hotspot of twisters. And while London to Reading is the Twister Corridor capital of the world with a 6% chance of one occurring each year only slightly more than Bristol to Birmingham and through to Manchester. A 2005 twister in Birmingham recorded speeds of 130mph injuring 19 people, causing £40million of damage and tearing up more than 1,000 trees. And, in just two minutes, a tornado in Kensal Green, North-West London, wrecked property worth £10million in December 2006. According to a Guardian newspaper article, just a week after Birmingham was battered by a tornado, residents in Bristol witnessed a giant twister sweeping across the skies over the southern suburbs. The twister formed on Monday shortly before 7pm as the skies clouded over after a sunny afternoon. The Meteorological Office had confirmed the twister, which was up to 1,000 ft (300 metres) long, came close to causing widespread property damage. "It was a classic funnel cloud, but quite a large one. They are usually measured in tens of feet, but this one was hundreds of feet, if not a thousand," said Damien Lee, a Met Office spokesman. "Had it made contact with the ground, it would have definitely caused localised damage to houses and trees." The twister swept across a 15-mile area, including the suburbs of Whitchurch, Hartcliffe and Keynsham, and eyewitnesses said it lasted for 15 minutes. The spectacle was captured on camera by Mark Gwinnell, 42, as the twister passed over his Whitchurch home. "There was a terrific sound and I looked out of the window and saw this twister coming," he said. "I knew I had to get a photograph of it. It was a huge tunnel of swirling air which got faster and faster." Paul Knightley, of the PA Weather Centre, said the twister was technically not a tornado because it failed to touch the ground. The centre logged up to four funnel clouds across the country yesterday and possibly one tornado. "Funnel clouds and tornadoes happen when you have an unstable atmosphere, where you have warm air rising from the ground and cold air above it," said Mr Knightley. In 2015 the Mail on Sunday wrote an article headlined with this:- England is tornado capital of the world! More twisters per square mile than other nation England has more tornadoes per area than any other country. The Tornado and Storm Research Association advises that two tornadoes in Britain are known to have reached T8; their antiquated nature necessitated great caution in assigning intensities, so it is possible that they may have been even stronger. The first, also Britain's earliest known tornado, occurred on October 23, 1091. The church at St. Mary Le Bow in central London was badly damaged, with four rafters - each 7.9 m long or 26 ft being driven into the ground (composed of heavy London Clay) with such force that only 1.2 m or 4 ft protruding above the surface. Other churches in the area were demolished, as were over 600 (mostly wooden) houses. On December 14, 1810, another T8 tornado tracked from Old Portsmouth to Southsea Common also causing immense damage, although no deaths, it is believed. Some houses were completely levelled and many others were so badly damaged that they had to be demolished; chimneys were blown down and the lead on a bank roof was "rolled up like a piece of canvas and blown from its situation". Manchester University goes on; Tornadoes are impossible to spot on satellite images and weather radar images aren’t always accurate either. They can show rotation where a tornado doesn’t occur and sometimes tornadoes occur where rotation is not shown on the radar. So the only way we know about them for sure is from eye-witness reports. Kelsey added: “It seems that most tornadoes in the UK are created along long, narrow storms that form along cold fronts, whereas most tornadoes in the United States are created by isolated storms, which are more similar to the beautiful super cells you see in the movie Twister. Even in the United States, tornadoes formed along cold fronts tend to be weaker than those formed from super cells. That could be one reason why tornadoes in the UK are much weaker. But the process for how tornadoes form along cold fronts is not yet very well understood. Understanding why is my current research project.” The valley and escarpment corridor from Bristol north with the Cotswolds away to the east, the Malvern's a little further north to the west and on to the Wyre Forest around Kidderminster are prime breeding grounds for twisters as history tells us and how many times I have driven that route and seen dark clouds quickly gathering away to the east and west reminds us that these storms gather quickly. It is a phenomenon that is widely publicized in Kansas or Oklahoma but less written from the shires of England. And as Birmingham City might not be ready for our own new Swedish Tornado spare a thought for those Twisters as you travel north and south on the M5 today; you will not receive a warning perhaps other than those gathering storm clouds and they are more common that the majority of us realise. UTC. Good day all and safe travels. 1 Quote Link to comment
Major Isewater Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 59 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said: Be careful if you're traveling up today.. This must surely be a bonus , normally all we get is a game of football. Don't forget your creams . 1 Quote Link to comment
Lew-T Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 I despise these lot. Hope we stuff em Quote Link to comment
Major Isewater Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 hour ago, iamalagerdrinker said: Be careful if you're traveling up today.. Why's he wearing his underpants on his head ? Quote Link to comment
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