BCFC Grim Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: So police deem a 3pm kick off too big a risk but once Sky are involved it ends up being timed to allow nearly 5 hours additional drinking. Couldn't make it up. Laughable isn't it..........reckon it's going to be carnage that evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 I understand that there is a link between drinking and causing trouble, but I'm sure if people are looking for a fight they will do so anyway, pissed up or not. Perhaps they will take other ways to get brave and gobby, drinking is only one factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 The Police will be praying for heavy rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 This could be chaotic particularly if we give them 3500 tickets, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 48 minutes ago, harrys said: This could be chaotic particularly if we give them 3500 tickets, Based on recent years' followings, they will get absolutely nowhere near that amount. Especially now it's on Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Cat Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 36 minutes ago, El Hombrecito said: Based on recent years' followings, they will get absolutely nowhere near that amount. Especially now it's on Sky. Yup... they'll be a bit sheepish about coming over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayteomike2 Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Bloody hell got a wedding that day not amused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ayteomike2 said: Bloody hell got a wedding that day not amused Hope your bride is understanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 20 minutes ago, Ayteomike2 said: Bloody hell got a wedding that day not amused You could always record it mate. And then watch it when you get back from the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 I hate Sky. And clearly the police are no longer concerned by our safety as its now on TV. Hypocrites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 hours ago, RedLionLad said: The Police will be praying for heavy rain. They needn't have prayed. Surely they just needed to say "no, we can't move the fixture from Saturday lunchtime on the grounds of safety as we announced previously". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 9 hours ago, BigTone said: Well unless Emirates show it in their on board lounge that is me stuffed. Thankfully my flight was already booked to get me home Friday AM: a 12 noon KO is too tight for an arrival into Heathrow on Saturday morning. Now waiting for it to be moved again for the exciting new "Thursday Night Football" slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityred exile Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 10 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: Only one Saturday home game before the end of November now - Derby leeds 21st october Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 6 hours ago, RedLionLad said: @JulieH Will the Cardiff fans be held in the Atyeo for a while after the game ends? No plans at this time for that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: I hate Sky. And clearly the police are no longer concerned by our safety as its now on TV. Hypocrites. We did make representations very strongly to sky , along with the club. Sky wanted to show this game and this day and time were reluctantly agreed upon by all parties after long discussions around other times and dates that were being offered our job in conjunction with club security is to keep fans in a safe environment, be rest assured that will continue to happen at this fixture. it may need more police numbers and slight tweaks to duty times but I would like to think that the steps forward we have made with this particular fixture can continue, whilst keeping the atmosphere of a Severn side Derby alive . we will be working alongside the fans forum members and updating and listening to them to ensure a safe and pleasant game for all, as much as possible we will keep everyone updated as to any changes in pre planned policing changes but at this early stage nothing is planned . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, JulieH said: We did make representations very strongly to sky , along with the club. Sky wanted to show this game and this day and time were reluctantly agreed upon by all parties after long discussions around other times and dates that were being offered Out of interest what other times and dates were offered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, hodge said: Out of interest what other times and dates were offered? Saturday at 17.15hrs!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, JulieH said: Saturday at 17.15hrs!!!!! Don't think any City fan can say the club have made the wrong choice then, late kick off on a Saturday would have been carnage for drinking through the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, JulieH said: We did make representations very strongly to sky , along with the club. Sky wanted to show this game and this day and time were reluctantly agreed upon by all parties after long discussions around other times and dates that were being offered our job in conjunction with club security is to keep fans in a safe environment, be rest assured that will continue to happen at this fixture. it may need more police numbers and slight tweaks to duty times but I would like to think that the steps forward we have made with this particular fixture can continue, whilst keeping the atmosphere of a Severn side Derby alive . we will be working alongside the fans forum members and updating and listening to them to ensure a safe and pleasant game for all, as much as possible we will keep everyone updated as to any changes in pre planned policing changes but at this early stage nothing is planned . Just out of interest, what arguments did the police make against moving the game, and what did they offer by way of argument for the police to yield? Sounds like more police will need to be on duty, which will come at a price. Is that price picked up by Sky, the club or taxpayers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 17 minutes ago, JulieH said: We did make representations very strongly to sky , along with the club. Sky wanted to show this game and this day and time were reluctantly agreed upon by all parties after long discussions around other times and dates that were being offered our job in conjunction with club security is to keep fans in a safe environment, be rest assured that will continue to happen at this fixture. it may need more police numbers and slight tweaks to duty times but I would like to think that the steps forward we have made with this particular fixture can continue, whilst keeping the atmosphere of a Severn side Derby alive . we will be working alongside the fans forum members and updating and listening to them to ensure a safe and pleasant game for all, as much as possible we will keep everyone updated as to any changes in pre planned policing changes but at this early stage nothing is planned . "We did make representations to Sky" Surely it should be the the other way around. The answer should have been "sorry Sky, but safety puts TV into the shade. We've already told fans that a late-in-the-day kickoff represents a risk, so you'll have to look to a different fixture". Something smells wrong here. It's a shame fans don't carry the same weight as Rupert Murdoch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, hodge said: Don't think any City fan can say the club have made the wrong choice then, late kick off on a Saturday would have been carnage for drinking through the day. Bonfire weekend as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Dollymarie said: Bonfire weekend as well! Doubly so then, if anything better the game isn't on the Saturday generally then. Also from our perspective potentially encourages a higher attendance whereas some people may have been busy with other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 19 minutes ago, JulieH said: Saturday at 17.15hrs!!!!! At least people wouldn't have to take Friday off work to get there… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 19 hours ago, BigTone said: Well unless Emirates show it in their on board lounge that is me stuffed. I paid for the new BCTV package to watch all City's league games live . When it's on Sky it's radio commentary only . I feel cheated. My only hope is to try and find a streaming site . The Villa match I couldn't find anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 7 hours ago, JulieH said: We did make representations very strongly to sky , along with the club. Sky wanted to show this game and this day and time were reluctantly agreed upon by all parties after long discussions around other times and dates that were being offered our job in conjunction with club security is to keep fans in a safe environment, be rest assured that will continue to happen at this fixture. it may need more police numbers and slight tweaks to duty times but I would like to think that the steps forward we have made with this particular fixture can continue, whilst keeping the atmosphere of a Severn side Derby alive . we will be working alongside the fans forum members and updating and listening to them to ensure a safe and pleasant game for all, as much as possible we will keep everyone updated as to any changes in pre planned policing changes but at this early stage nothing is planned . Sorry but this is nonsense. If the original kick off time was pushed back due to Safety concerns ( which I think we all agree makes sense due to drinking time ) then how is a Friday night in November any safer than 3pm on a Saturday ? Not a dig at the police by the way ,but let's just call it for what it is.Sky have said it's being played on the Friday ,you deal with it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Vincent Vega said: Sorry but this is nonsense. If the original kick off time was pushed back due to Safety concerns ( which I think we all agree makes sense due to drinking time ) then how is a Friday night in November any safer than 3pm on a Saturday ? Not a dig at the police by the way ,but let's just call it for what it is.Sky have said it's being played on the Friday ,you deal with it ! Maybe the police prefer to work overtime Friday night instead of Saturday. Perhaps the overtime rate is better. Friday night - alcohol, busy, dark, cold, noisy. Clearly far easier to control crowds and ensure safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Why do so many people overthink things and start blasting the police? Relax, it's a Friday night KO, deal with it and enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC1512 Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Crike some right drama queens on here haha ffs Cardiff ain't the game it once was! This might for once liven it up a bit! Can't wait will be a cracking atmosphere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 On 31/08/2017 at 11:06, RedM said: I just looked, the original fixture had already been changed from 3pm to noon on the Saturday on Police advice, and now moved for Sky. So it's too dangerous to have 3pm KO on Saturday, but it's safe to have an evening KO if Sky want it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Yes it's a ball ache on a Friday night for some but reading the comments is mildly entertaining. '7:45 kick off gives more drinking time at night' if fans are planning on staying in Bristol then it won't matter when kick off is they will stay and drink. A 12:00 kick off gives them plenty of time after the game to get trollied. 'Endangering us' really? The police aren't exactly locking us in a cage with hungry lions. They will do there best to stop violence occurring but the rule of thumb is you don't look for trouble then you won't get trouble. From my understanding 'danger' doesn't come into it the police will look at games and try and make it as easy to police as possible. The police have to control the fans, night games are generally easier as fans arrive in dribs and drabs and not all together. This eliminates the Pack mentality, remember the EE netters, if there is a large group they will be escorted to the ground as usual. Like we were when we played them for the first time without the bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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