Inactive user Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Did anyone else hear anything about the possible Malaysian investors tonight? Apparently it's a group who already have sporting interests in other clubs. Not sure if this would be a good thing or not but perhaps it's a sign of intent to push on and make a real bid to get to the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m42 Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 NO THANKS AT 1000 Decibels. If foreign investors become owners at Ashton Gate then I will seriously have to consider my position. I'm committed to a 180 mile round trip for home matches for a club I've supported for 60 years. Bristol City is a proper Bristol club. A magnificent stadium that brings tears to my eyes as I walk down from The Robins. And currently a great squad of players. The thought of it being owned by people who are just business focussed saddens me greatly. Mr Lansdown has some serious wealth. Perhaps he could consider a trust fund arrangement that would ensure that Bristol City remains in UK ownership. What a legacy that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayOutWest Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Have the Malaysians done their due diligence? They must be getting us mixed up with Moron FC. Championship sprinklers. Loyal fan base the world loves. Unique kit. Massive potential. Billy Fackin Bodin. Their manager loves dogs ... For more than eating #WeWannaBeCarriedDownGwosterLoad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I thought SL said he would welcome outside investment a while ago? If so this maybe it, if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS15_RED Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 5 hours ago, Rednwhiterob said: Did anyone else hear anything about the possible Malaysian investors tonight? Apparently it's a group who already have sporting interests in other clubs. Not sure if this would be a good thing or not but perhaps it's a sign of intent to push on and make a real bid to get to the Premier League. It's not Vincent Tan is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Got to be a wind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted September 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, 054123 said: Got to be a wind up. I can't quite square it, but heard from a sensible City mate. Hence my post to see if anyone else has heard anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 How do we improve upon a Bristolian owner who is not ladening the club with debt? I calculated that the gas will have fully drawn their debt facility of £10m secured upon the ground by March at which point, with all the assets mortgaged, the owners would need to start putting their own cash at risk. So I'd expect them to be sounding out potential buyers already and this may be the source of the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS15_RED Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said: I can't quite square it, but heard from a sensible City mate. Hence my post to see if anyone else has heard anything. Any more details? Are we talking a complete buy out or is it SL possibly selling a part of his share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Surely this is a wind up? This cant be true, it'd be soul crushing. We're not the cardiff red dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Investing in Bristol City or Bristol Sport? Can they do one without the other and would they want to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 As long as SL is still in overall charge, significant investment would be a great thing. It would most likely just add an extra face to the board of directors. If SL was to be selling though, that I would be worried about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, RumRed said: I thought SL said he would welcome outside investment a while ago? If so this maybe it, if true. he would welcome the correct investment that had the clubs best interests at heart I think was the quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Eddie Hitler said: How do we improve upon a Bristolian owner who is not ladening the club with debt? I calculated that the gas will have fully drawn their debt facility of £10m secured upon the ground by March at which point, with all the assets mortgaged, the owners would need to start putting their own cash at risk. So I'd expect them to be sounding out potential buyers already and this may be the source of the OP. The club is in debt. Mr Lansdown could clear that debt and still be in total control of BCFC etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Look who the original poster is and ponder - 'is this likely to be a windup?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Im sure that foreign investors could help if the deal was right. A foreign takeover, no way. However, nobody is ever going to make any money out of a football club, so the word investor is a bit of a misnomer Equally, money alone does not always bring success. Quite a few Champonship clubs have spent an awful lot and are still Championship clubs, yet how much have Huddersfield and Burnley spent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: Im sure that foreign investors could help if the deal was right. A foreign takeover, no way. However, nobody is ever going to make any money out of a football club, so the word investor is a bit of a misnomer Equally, money alone does not always bring success. Quite a few Champonship clubs have spent an awful lot and are still Championship clubs, yet how much have Huddersfield and Burnley spent? Oh they are Wendy - albeit only a few There was an interesting radio piece the other day when the foreign ownership was discussed from a business perspective I can't remember the figures quoted but, in essence buy a Championship Club , invest to get promoted , get promoted to the Prem and your shares / Club / investment is suddenly worth x your investment I do think Chinese / Malaysian type investors must have looked at us - we'd be ripe in theory to be bought However , listening to MA speaking about SL , as a English , Bristolian , last night as the Clubs biggest asset , I can't see SL selling to a foreign owner (Could see him allowing some investment but can't see him ever relinquishing a majority shareholding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 46 minutes ago, Monkeh said: he would welcome the correct investment that had the clubs best interests at heart I think was the quote Thanks Monkeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 we all know he likes red... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I've not heard of this rumour before and I'm not really sure what to think . From what I've heard last night it wouldn't suit our current model . Would love to see us throw shed loads of money at it and what a giddy ride that would be . Is it in the evil post yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Cigar Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: How do we improve upon a Bristolian owner who is not ladening the club with debt? I calculated that the gas will have fully drawn their debt facility of £10m secured upon the ground by March at which point, with all the assets mortgaged, the owners would need to start putting their own cash at risk. So I'd expect them to be sounding out potential buyers already and this may be the source of the OP. We can't. I dread the day we ever get taken over by an owner who couldn't give two hoots about our beloved club. Hopefully, that day will never come. Too many foreign owners are destroying so many of our football clubs. Although it's by no means just foreign owners. There have been/are some truly dreadful British owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Raging_Robin said: SL has stated in the past, the only way he would sell this club is if the buyers were credible and would benefit the club more than he would. If someone were to buy the club, I'm sure they wouldn't be cowboys and that they would invest heavily. I would welcome anything that would push this club forward, however, I can't see anyone pushing this club forward more than SL (in a sustainable way). David Moores said that same and then sold Liverpool to Hicks and Gillett. I'm sure he had the right intentions given his family's history with the club but he ended up selling to two guys who didn't benefit the club at all, quite the opposite. If that can happen to Liverpool it could absolutely happen to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Think this is bullshit. SL has created and funded BS with City and the Rugby and all the other factions for one reason only. A legacy. We all know JL will take the reins one day. It will become his baby and one he will nurture until it passes onwards. Any future owners would come after Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I know I am repeating myself, but would investment be in Bristol City or Bristol Sport? I am not enough of a businessman to work out whether these are two separate entities or whether they are so tightly knit now, that any investment could not be ring fenced into the football side. My impression from previous interviews etc, that part of the development of Bristol Sport was to negate any hostile takeover of the football club by foreign investors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Problem with foreign investors is they invest a bit, then they hold 49% and soon it is 51% and they have control. As Donald keeps saying, "we shall see". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 55 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I know I am repeating myself, but would investment be in Bristol City or Bristol Sport? I am not enough of a businessman to work out whether these are two separate entities or whether they are so tightly knit now, that any investment could not be ring fenced into the football side. My impression from previous interviews etc, that part of the development of Bristol Sport was to negate any hostile takeover of the football club by foreign investors. Close but no cigar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 No one is going to "invest" without some aspect of "ownership", otherwise their "investment" is effectively just a "loan". To be an investment they would want an equity stake, so they make money if the share value goes up (i.e on promotion). That of course means by selling some of the shares SL would make less as he would have diluted his holdings. Bearing in mind what he has invested so far I can not see him doing this now , after he has completed the new stadium, bought the training ground and put money in to the team. If he was going to sell some of his shares it would have been before all that not after. Americans buy purely to make profits, Russians to get a higher profile and therefore les likely to suffer "an accident", Chinese to get in with their leader and Arabs for International recognition. Me, I prefer SL everyday of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: I know I am repeating myself, but would investment be in Bristol City or Bristol Sport? I am not enough of a businessman to work out whether these are two separate entities or whether they are so tightly knit now, that any investment could not be ring fenced into the football side. My impression from previous interviews etc, that part of the development of Bristol Sport was to negate any hostile takeover of the football club by foreign investors. Bristol Sport own Bristol City FC plus the others, therefore Bristol Sport as a whole could be sold, or Bristol Sport could sell Bristol City FC to someone else and retain the rugby etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Grey Fox said: Bristol Sport own Bristol City FC plus the others, therefore Bristol Sport as a whole could be sold, or Bristol Sport could sell Bristol City FC to someone else and retain the rugby etc Bristol Sport doesn't own Bristol City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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