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Set the pigs out for the return match / Cheats / Fracas on touchline (Merged)

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Can't believe more has not been made of Wolves blatant cheating last night with the drop ball near the end of the game.

Ball goes in the box and is cleared with one of their players going down. We pick the ball up outside the box and just as we are putting it in the ref blows for the alleged head injury. Fair enough though bloody annoying.

Then on the restart no city player heads over for the drop ball and when the ref drops the ball, rather than pump the ball to Frankie like everyone expected, the cheating shits keep the ball and try and break on us.

I was absolutely livid at the time and I apologies  to those around me for my language apart from the wolves fan above us who I vented my fury at.

I remember Forest cheating a few years back with a throw in that cost us the game. So that's two clubs with delusions of grandeur that cheat when it suits them.

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Yup. And there was another drop ball where they kicked it out for a throw in instead of kicking to Frankie? Or was that the same one?

Also, a special mention to their fans who have to be the biggest set of divas ever. Literally, going mad calling for every small descion. Nobs.

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This is the incident Radio Bristol said Jamie Mc was furious about and had to be held back on the touch line and then LJ was spoken too about. Jamie Mc did the interview after and had calmed down a lot obviously but referred to Wolves as being 'unsporting'. But yes when teams do things like this no wonder fans, players etc get upset. 

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4 minutes ago, Collis1 said:

Yup. And there was another drop ball where they kicked it out for a throw in instead of kicking to Frankie? Or was that the same one?

Also, a special mention to their fans who have to be the biggest set of divas. Literally, going mad calling for every small descion. Nobs.

I forgot about that one. So yeah, twice 

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It's beyond me why, with the money & pressure at stake nowadays, referees are not given the discretion to avoid the token drop ball and just restart with the appropriate keeper. 

They bring added controversy on themselves by allowing this to happen, although it still shouldn't be in any teams plans. 

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This is why the shaking of hands with the opposition before the game is a complete farce, as soon as the match commences players try to get the opposing players booked by cheating, i.e. diving and feigning injury and taking advantage of instances as you mentioned, to me it's a joke

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Anybody else think occasionally players go down holding their head when contact has been minimal ?

Good way to relieve pressure as the ref really has no choice !

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The Wolves player who went down injured never even left the pitch before the retstart.

Piss poor refereeing and cheating by Wolves i am sure the same thing happened there last season.

Happy with the point mind, thought Wolves were the best team we have played this season.

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3 minutes ago, Neo said:

Anybody else think occasionally players go down holding their head when contact has been minimal ?

Good way to relieve pressure as the ref really has no choice !

I'm sure I've seen players go down holding their heads, the ref stops the game and when the trainer comes on he treats their ankle! 

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7 minutes ago, Neo said:

Anybody else think occasionally players go down holding their head when contact has been minimal ?

Good way to relieve pressure as the ref really has no choice !

This was exactly the case, they were under pressure, feigned injury and then kept possession from the dropped ball. If we get a dropped ball against them at the 'Gate perhaps do the same!

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There's nothing in the laws that say that a drop ball has to be given back to the opposition so technically Wolves weren't cheating but they weren't following the unwritten rule of returning the ball which It what pissed of the City dugout.

 

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7 minutes ago, fanjita said:

This is why the shaking of hands with the opposition before the game is a complete farce, as soon as the match commences players try to get the opposing players booked by cheating, i.e. diving and feigning injury and taking advantage of instances as you mentioned, to me it's a joke

Always hated this. Used to love both teams running out the tunnel to boos and cheers. None of this polite walking. You can see the players just want to run out fired up and get on with it, better for atmosphere too. Really miss this.

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13 minutes ago, Collis1 said:

Yup. And there was another drop ball where they kicked it out for a throw in instead of kicking to Frankie? Or was that the same one?

Also, a special mention to their fans who have to be the biggest set of divas ever. Literally, going mad calling for every small descion. Nobs.

Sorry but calling them divas for pressuring the referee is a bit daft .

They were playing the thirteenth man and normally that means that they'll get more decisions for them than against.

 I congratulate them for that and would love to see us being a bit more partisan and hostile at Ashton Gate. 

I did chuckle to myself when I remembered that a poster on OTIB said the ref could take a bus from his home to the ground.

 I don't think he endeared himself to the locals and may have to keep a low profile for a week or two .

 

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13 minutes ago, fanjita said:

This is why the shaking of hands with the opposition before the game is a complete farce, as soon as the match commences players try to get the opposing players booked by cheating, i.e. diving and feigning injury and taking advantage of instances as you mentioned, to me it's a joke

That comes from FIFA I think. The idea is to promote harmony between countries......................:rofl2br:

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6 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Sorry but calling them divas for pressuring the referee is a bit daft .

They were playing the thirteenth man and normally that means that they'll get more decisions for them than against.

 I congratulate them for that and would love to see us being a bit more partisan and hostile at Ashton Gate. 

I did chuckle to myself when I remembered that a poster on OTIB said the ref could take a bus from his home to the ground.

 I don't think he endeared himself to the locals and may have to keep a low profile for a week or two .

 

I wouldn't. It's embarrassing. Yes, contest the marginal descions, but they were literally going nuts everytime one of our players so much as touched theres. I wouldn't be surprised if this actually had the opposite effect on the ref! 

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20 minutes ago, Tomarse said:

I thought they brought in a rule that drop ball must be contested now?

Think the new rule is that the ref cannot insist that it's uncontested. Previously, refs used to pretty much tell a team to pass it back. 

Personally think they should all be contested anyway.

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36 minutes ago, BS3_RED said:

Can't believe more has not been made of Wolves blatant cheating last night with the drop ball near the end of the game.

Ball goes in the box and is cleared with one of their players going down. We pick the ball up outside the box and just as we are putting it in the ref blows for the alleged head injury. Fair enough though bloody annoying.

Then on the restart no city player heads over for the drop ball and when the ref drops the ball, rather than pump the ball to Frankie like everyone expected, the cheating shits keep the ball and try and break on us.

I was absolutely livid at the time and I apologies  to those around me for my language apart from the wolves fan above us who I vented my fury at.

I remember Forest cheating a few years back with a throw in that cost us the game. So that's two clubs with delusions of grandeur that cheat when it suits them.

I remember the forest incident. Chris Gunter was involved I believe and we went on to lose either 2-1 or 3-2.

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Teams do this all the time. Falling over holding their heads. Probably stopped many teams from scoring in the past. Something has to be done about this. Maybe wait until the attack is over before stopping play.

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3 minutes ago, BITW said:

I remember the forest incident. Chris Gunter was involved I believe and we went on to lose either 2-1 or 3-2.

And Jamie Mc was our player involved, always hated Gunter after that.

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41 minutes ago, BS3_RED said:

Can't believe more has not been made of Wolves blatant cheating last night with the drop ball near the end of the game.

Ball goes in the box and is cleared with one of their players going down. We pick the ball up outside the box and just as we are putting it in the ref blows for the alleged head injury. Fair enough though bloody annoying.

Then on the restart no city player heads over for the drop ball and when the ref drops the ball, rather than pump the ball to Frankie like everyone expected, the cheating shits keep the ball and try and break on us.

There's no way their player had an actual 'head injury' either. In fact when he got up he limped away! 

It was poor sportsmanship allround from them.

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They did similar when we lost 2-1 up there a couple of seasons back. We were on the break, had just reached the centre circle when the ref blew up because one of their players was down. Rather than kick back to us they put it out for a throw in on the edge of our box, pushed up won, a free kick from the throw and scored from the cross... 90th min if I remember correctly. 

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It is cheating, I hate it, but it happens. Warnock encourages his players to feign head injuries when under pressure. We have to not be so naive and get in there for the drop ball. Get in their faces ffs.

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47 minutes ago, Robbored said:

There's nothing in the laws that say that a drop ball has to be given back to the opposition so technically Wolves weren't cheating but they weren't following the unwritten rule of returning the ball which It what pissed of the City dugout.

 

If the ball isn't going to be 'passed' back to the opposition the drop ball has to be contested, it's down to the Ref to make sure this is done. 

On another game , I remember being at Highbury for a Blackburn game . Arse kicked the ball out for an injury. They threw the ball back to Arsenal FB , but immediately chased him down. They scored from it and got a draw, place went into melt down. Unwritten rules and all that.

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6 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

If the ball isn't going to be 'passed' back to the opposition the drop ball has to be contested, it's down to the Ref to make sure this is done. 

Exactly. 

And if, for example, the Wolves player indicates to the referee that he will give the ball back to us in order to gain and uncontested drop ball, and then doesn't give it back, then that is unsporting behaviour and presumably, a booking. 

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Can't read this rubbish. Wolves were clearly frustrated that the referee was incompetent. If you want to make a point then don't be bias. Debatable penalty which none of the Bristol city players even appealed for and the incident prior to the ' cheating ' was our defender getting layed out in the box. It was a blatant a penalty as I have seen. How a red can spot a handball from 40 yards away but can't see your defender wipe out Danny Bath. It was good to see Bristol city came to play and I have a lot of respect for teams that do that and your probably the best team we have played this season but if wolves had won the game 6-2 noone would bat an eyelid. I think wolves dominated and played some brilliant football. Fair play for stealing a point you barely deserved. See you in the return 

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well i couldn't be more proud of city for that terrific performance last night. gutsy, pacey, skill full, but above all a real team effort full of cohesion and spirit.

please keep it going boys

we always believe and now there is hard evidence.

don't worry about wolves cheating antics, we've go them at home and we can always set our mascots on you!!!

 

 

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43 minutes ago, Chris_Brown said:

Exactly. 

And if, for example, the Wolves player indicates to the referee that he will give the ball back to us in order to gain and uncontested drop ball, and then doesn't give it back, then that is unsporting behaviour and presumably, a booking. 

Interesting - was going to post about why refs don't do this. So does this mean that if the Wolves guy didn't signal he was returning the ball then we were actually a bit naive (unwritten rules etc)?

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How can the one thing being touted around about wolves be cheating tactics?? Surely you can appreciate wolves played Bristol off the park last night and you stole a point. Fair play for that but would be nice to recognise good football and give credit where it's due.

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24 minutes ago, Wolvesaywe said:

Can't read this rubbish. Wolves were clearly frustrated that the referee was incompetent. If you want to make a point then don't be bias. Debatable penalty which none of the Bristol city players even appealed for and the incident prior to the ' cheating ' was our defender getting layed out in the box. It was a blatant a penalty as I have seen. How a red can spot a handball from 40 yards away but can't see your defender wipe out Danny Bath. It was good to see Bristol city came to play and I have a lot of respect for teams that do that and your probably the best team we have played this season but if wolves had won the game 6-2 noone would bat an eyelid. I think wolves dominated and played some brilliant football. Fair play for stealing a point you barely deserved. See you in the return 

Think 3-3 would indicate that neither team stole a point eh? Don't shit yourself either about bias, you've totally ignored what this thread was about.

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1 hour ago, Robbored said:

There's nothing in the laws that say that a drop ball has to be given back to the opposition so technically Wolves weren't cheating but they weren't following the unwritten rule of returning the ball which It what pissed of the City dugout.

 

Then we just might as well all give up.

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17 minutes ago, Wolvesaywe said:

How can the one thing being touted around about wolves be cheating tactics?? Surely you can appreciate wolves played Bristol off the park last night and you stole a point. Fair play for that but would be nice to recognise good football and give credit where it's due.

We do recognise good football there are quite few threads today saying how well City played. But fair play to Wolves for scrambling a late point after going behind

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26 minutes ago, where's the joy said:

don't worry about wolves cheating antics, we've go them at home and we can always set our mascots on you!!!

That is more to do with being a bit "savvy" in this league, when we first came back up we were often out "footballed" by more experienced campaigners but we are certainly nearly up there with them now

Part of the problem with Wolves is the high number of "foreign" players, sadly it is in their blood to over-react to something simple, but that's football sadly

 

PS The mascots were nothing to do with Bristol City

16 minutes ago, Wolvesaywe said:

How can the one thing being touted around about wolves be cheating tactics?? Surely you can appreciate wolves played Bristol off the park last night and you stole a point. Fair play for that but would be nice to recognise good football and give credit where it's due.

Wouldn't say Wolves played us "off the park", possession only 54% which hardly indicates that as a fact

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28 minutes ago, Wolvesaywe said:

Can't read this rubbish. Wolves were clearly frustrated that the referee was incompetent. If you want to make a point then don't be bias. Debatable penalty which none of the Bristol city players even appealed for and the incident prior to the ' cheating ' was our defender getting layed out in the box. It was a blatant a penalty as I have seen. How a red can spot a handball from 40 yards away but can't see your defender wipe out Danny Bath. It was good to see Bristol city came to play and I have a lot of respect for teams that do that and your probably the best team we have played this season but if wolves had won the game 6-2 noone would bat an eyelid. I think wolves dominated and played some brilliant football. Fair play for stealing a point you barely deserved. See you in the return 

I agree- I wouldn't have complained if you had won 6-3. You are probably the best team that i have seen at this level since we came back up, some of the counter attacking football you play is breathless and frankly if that performance is anything to go by you will definitely get promoted....

But get your head out your arse- It was never a penalty. Wright won the ball. I've just shown it to everyone in my office here in Manchester and not a single one of them thinks it was a penalty. In fact twitter is littered with Wolves fans saying it wasn't a penalty.

As for ours. Debatable? Yes your player was close to the ball when it was hit but he moves his arm out to meet it!

So don't blame the fact that you didn't win on anything other than your failure to take more chances and that we took ours.

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20 minutes ago, Wolvesaywe said:

How can the one thing being touted around about wolves be cheating tactics?? Surely you can appreciate wolves played Bristol off the park last night and you stole a point. Fair play for that but would be nice to recognise good football and give credit where it's due.

I'm sure you can see the irony in the two points I've highlighted.

Nice to see Wolves fans staying humble as ever.

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Check the shots on goal. I'm not really a stats person but I watched it and we created so many chances hit the bar, balls across goal. Like I say fair play to you but if any Bristol city fan reckons wolves didn't deserve 3 points they are deluded. You scored a massive lucky deflection and a dodgy penalty

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6 minutes ago, El Hombrecito said:

I'm sure you can see the irony in the two points I've highlighted.

Nice to see Wolves fans staying humble as ever.

I love it when these sorts come on OTIB. Always makes for some good entertainment.

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11 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said:

Then we just might as well all give up.

Other teams have done the same thing before. It always causes a stink particularly from the opposition fans.

I wouldn't want to see City do it tho. It's just not cricket......................:rofl2br:

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5 minutes ago, Wolvesaywe said:

Check the shots on goal. I'm not really a stats person but I watched it and we created so many chances hit the bar, balls across goal. Like I say fair play to you but if any Bristol city fan reckons wolves didn't deserve 3 points they are deluded. You scored a massive lucky deflection and a dodgy penalty

I'm not entirely sure how having strikers who couldn't hit a cow's ass with a banjo means that you deserved to win, but hey you keep believing that.

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47 minutes ago, Wolvesaywe said:

 Fair play for stealing a point you barely deserved. See you in the return 

We were 2-3 up with 8 minutes to go you cockwomble

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48 minutes ago, Wolvesaywe said:

Can't read this rubbish. Wolves were clearly frustrated that the referee was incompetent. If you want to make a point then don't be bias. Debatable penalty which none of the Bristol city players even appealed for and the incident prior to the ' cheating ' was our defender getting layed out in the box. It was a blatant a penalty as I have seen. How a red can spot a handball from 40 yards away but can't see your defender wipe out Danny Bath. It was good to see Bristol city came to play and I have a lot of respect for teams that do that and your probably the best team we have played this season but if wolves had won the game 6-2 noone would bat an eyelid. I think wolves dominated and played some brilliant football. Fair play for stealing a point you barely deserved. See you in the return

What do you think of the unsporting behaviour of your team at the end?

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good game all round last night, as usual the first half wasn't too exciting then Flinty scored just before half time, a few dodgy decisions both ways from the officials. the second half City as usual we were into the game and did us proud. 

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41 minutes ago, Wolvesaywe said:

How can the one thing being touted around about wolves be cheating tactics?? Surely you can appreciate wolves played Bristol off the park last night and you stole a point. Fair play for that but would be nice to recognise good football and give credit where it's due.

We were 3-2 up with 5 mins to go. Who stole the point? :shutup:

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24 minutes ago, Wolvesaywe said:

Check the shots on goal. I'm not really a stats person but I watched it and we created so many chances hit the bar, balls across goal. Like I say fair play to you but if any Bristol city fan reckons wolves didn't deserve 3 points they are deluded. You scored a massive lucky deflection and a dodgy penalty

Hahaha. You are one deluded yam yam.

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27 minutes ago, Wolvesaywe said:

Check the shots on goal. I'm not really a stats person but I watched it and we created so many chances hit the bar, balls across goal. Like I say fair play to you but if any Bristol city fan reckons wolves didn't deserve 3 points they are deluded. You scored a massive lucky deflection and a dodgy penalty

"Check the shots on goal"

Wolves 6

City 4

"I'm not really a stats person"...............No shit Sherlock

http://www.skysports.com/football/wolves-vs-bristol-c/stats/374702

 

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31 minutes ago, Wolvesaywe said:

Check the shots on goal. I'm not really a stats person but I watched it and we created so many chances hit the bar, balls across goal. Like I say fair play to you but if any Bristol city fan reckons wolves didn't deserve 3 points they are deluded. You scored a massive lucky deflection and a dodgy penalty

 

3 minutes ago, RedRaw said:

"Check the shots on goal"

Wolves 6

City 4

"I'm not really a stats person"...............No shit Sherlock

http://www.skysports.com/football/wolves-vs-bristol-c/stats/374702

 

Still looking for the dominant stats . . . 

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