BCFC J Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Not read it mentioned on here yet but it probably has been, I thought that Nathan Baker's discipline in the last two games after picking up yellow card(s) in the first half was outstanding. I loved seeing Baker land big challenges in 15/16 but a few times he was lucky to not get sent off, and against Blackburn he recklessly was sent off. He still has that aggressive bite to his game that we absolutely shouldn't try and curb, but he's been so sensible with it and not left us in the lurch, he's learnt his lessons and is much better for it. What a player, I absolutely love him; other than Jansson and Gibson I challenged you to name a better centre half in the division. Top bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 On another day, he could easily have been sent off against Reading for his yellow card challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clappy Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 My gut instinct on the Reading one was he was going to be sent off. Ive not seen replays since but from the away end i was panicing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 He might be a "top bloke" but his discipline leaves a lot to be desired. Its probably a combination of enthusiasm and determination to win the ball that gets him carded so often. I'm sure that's not lost on LJ and that he and his coaching staff are working with Baker on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Robbored said: He might be a "top bloke" but his discipline leaves a lot to be desired. Its probably a combination of enthusiasm and determination to win the ball that gets him carded so often. I'm sure that's not lost on LJ and that he and his coaching staff are working with Baker on it. He doesn't get carded that often? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC J Posted September 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 17 minutes ago, Coxy27 said: On another day, he could easily have been sent off against Reading for his yellow card challenge. Absolute nonsense. Flint was covering, cynical booking, never anything more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I think he does a lot of 'taking one for the team'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnr1986 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Baker is a class defender at this level and has definitely improved us in this position, quality ball playing cm with some experience in the English leagues in January and we will definitely be looking up rather than down . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, RedM said: I think he does a lot of 'taking one for the team'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 21 minutes ago, Tammys Scan said: He doesn't get carded that often? Right............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: Right............. 2 yellow cards in 6 appearances so far this season, not too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 certainly a better player than when he was here on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: Right............. How many cards do you think he got last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Robbored said: Right............. 8 bookings, 1 red in 40 games 2015/16 5 bookings, 1 red in 34 games 2016/17 33 bookings, 5 red cards in his whole career (220 games) including the Premier League 2 and reserve leagues. What a terrible disciplinary record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: How many cards do you think he got last season? It's literally a fact that his discipline isn't that bad, I don't know why people go on about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Pretty needless booking at Wolves. Went right through the back of one of their players near the halfway line. Flint went mad at him as there was no need to make such a strong challenge in that area of the pitch. Maybe it was one of those "letting the striker know you're here" type challenges. Think it's a positive we have a couple of hard men at the back at the moment - it probably is only a matter of time before Baker gets suspended though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC101 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 For me, in modern football, there is a clear distinction growing between discipline and tactical fouling. Both yellows he's picked up, against Reading and Wolves, have been tactical fouls, without which we could have very easily conceded on both occasions. Everyone else in the Championship has been doing it to us for years, and it's very much a part of football now; a tactic used to stop conceding, which is why I have no problem at all with the yellows for Baker. Don't think there can be any worries about discipline so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 25 minutes ago, Robbored said: Right............. He doesn't robbo his record is decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 36 minutes ago, DaveF said: 2 yellow cards in 6 appearances so far this season, not too bad. So one in two then. I'd call that pretty crap. 10 games in and he'll be suspended at that rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, BCFC101 said: For me, in modern football, there is a clear distinction growing between discipline and tactical fouling. Both yellows he's picked up, against Reading and Wolves, have been tactical fouls, without which we could have very easily conceded on both occasions. Everyone else in the Championship has been doing it to us for years, and it's very much a part of football now; a tactic used to stop conceding, which is why I have no problem at all with the yellows for Baker. Don't think there can be any worries about discipline so far this season. I wouldn't say the one against Wolves was a tactical foul, it was a bit unnecessary I thought. The Reading one was though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: So one in two then. I'd call that pretty crap. Maths not your strong point I see, that's one in 3 or 10 yellows in 30 which we've seen from his career doesn't happen its just the walking red card people used to have a moan about this signing without any back up or actual evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 48 minutes ago, RedM said: I think he does a lot of 'taking one for the team'. Exactly this, he isn't reckless but he has that bit of bite and nous that we so desperately needed last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 He's street smart; something the team has been missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, Robbored said: So one in two then. I'd call that pretty crap. 10 games in and he'll be suspended at that rate. No he won't. You can't do numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 6 games 2 yellow cards. 6 - 2 = 3 yeah you're right maths ain't my strong suit................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Robbored said: 6 games 2 yellow cards. 6 - 2 = 3 yeah you're right maths ain't my strong suit................ What are you even typing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Robbored said: 6 games 2 yellow cards. 6 - 2 = 3 yeah you're right maths ain't my strong suit................ No 6 - 2 is 4. But that has no relation to the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Coxy27 said: On another day, he could easily have been sent off against Reading for his yellow card challenge. 1 hour ago, Clappy said: My gut instinct on the Reading one was he was going to be sent off. Ive not seen replays since but from the away end i was panicing.. First thing I did was look across the line, seemed plenty of cover and not a nasty challenge so yellow for me. i said elsewhere, looks far less of a Red card waiting to happen this year than on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 55 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: How many cards do you think he got last season? Got a few in April and probably a couple at Christmas.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 The blokes a big softy, the Reading player made a meal of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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