JamesBCFC Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said: Yes but how the heck are Brentford doing so badly given where they are on that chart. Makes you wonder if it tells you anything useful tbh. It absolutely does. This time last year there was a chart like that, with Fulham in a similar situation to Brentford- struggling in results but with the chart suggesting that they should be doing better. Fulham ended up having a pretty good season. There are a few other charts breaking attack and defence down individually, the attacking one tells us that Brums results will pick up dramatically pretty soon, as they have an abusurd number of shots per goal, while Ipswichs form will tail off pretty sharply as they have an unsustainably high shot:goal ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsober Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 7 hours ago, Jack Dawe said: ...second most breached in the Top 10. Not good enough. Sort it out Johnson. Please. get a life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuno Gomes Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Our leaky, porous defence..... Tautology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 49 minutes ago, iamsober said: get a life! whooooooooosh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 8 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: One goal we definitely shouldn't have conceded was Villa's equaliser. Now don't get me wrong a point was a good result and arguably we shaded it, but if you look back at the goal, 2 or 3 defenders after the initial block could have surrounded Onomah more- admittedly was a great strike and maybe a slight deflection too but after the initial block, Onomah got too much time/space. It was a b-i-g deflection, Mr P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: It was a b-i-g deflection, Mr P. Yes. On watching it again I would concur Rudolf. It was unlucky but I still think a little more urgency from the 2 defenders in the vicinity and maybe no goal would have resulted. Anyway I'm not worried about that. I have the odd reservation however about the shots conceded...maybe it's part of the tactical plan, shots from certain areas of less danger. Or perhaps we're riding our luck a bit defensively. Time will tell and we certainly won't go down but whether the top 6 push is sustainable I have doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 If we are going to push on from here, we simply have to tighten up at the back, it's defences by and large that win things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, robin_unreliant said: Yes but how the heck are Brentford doing so badly given where they are on that chart. Makes you wonder if it tells you anything useful tbh. In a false position atm (IMHO) Performances at odds with their current points total They will climb (IMHO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 36 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: If we are going to push on from here, we simply have to tighten up at the back, it's defences by and large that win things. Isn't it defences that stop you losing things, not win things..? We've lost 1 game in 10 Doesn't it kind of seem to be going ok on that front..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, iamsober said: get a life! Someone tell her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Isn't it defences that stop you losing things, not win things..? We've lost 1 game in 10 Doesn't it kind of seem to be going ok on that front..? I know I know, but any good teams build a solid foundation at the back, we still have work to do there, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 hours ago, 1bristolcity said: I did the sad thing too and counted where we were in a league of goals conceded...can you imagine how good we could be without Flint in the back 4/3? Love the bloke, but sorry he is a liability. 'liability' Dear oh dear (While you're back trolling maybe you'd like to explain why you've rubbished the post re Brentford (With your extensive knowledge) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: I know I know, but any good teams build a solid foundation at the back, we still have work to do there, obviously. Yes, granted. But you don't find too many teams who are top scorers AND particularly tight defensively. Teams who manage that are usually the exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Yes, granted. But you don't find too many teams who are top scorers AND particularly tight defensively. Teams who manage that are usually the exception. Man U Man City ? Yes that is the exception, but it does illustrate what I am saying, loving the run, but we could have should have won Tuesday, very bad error at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: 'liability' Dear oh dear 'Fraid so, his goals have rather covered up his defensive shortcomings. But there you go I wouldn't expect anything else from BBSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Isn't it defences that stop you losing things, not win things..? We've lost 1 game in 10 Doesn't it kind of seem to be going ok on that front..? Goals win matches, clean sheets win leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: 'Fraid so, his goals have rather covered up his defensive shortcomings. But there you go I wouldn't expect anything else from BBSB Back to trolling lil Swindonite eh ? - awaiting the rubbish explanation - not that , as a troll you will have one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: Goals win matches, clean sheets win leagues. Got that wrong btw The expression is Defences keep you up Forwards get you up Not a bad attempt though 3/10 for effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: Goals win matches, clean sheets win leagues. I thought winning matches won you leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Back to trolling lil Swindonite eh ? - awaiting the rubbish explanation - not that , as a troll you will have one Don't get all irrational now, it's just not worth it, I don't support Swindon Down,you naughty boy, I did live there though, can you understand? So not City and a Troll too, blimey you should get out more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: I thought winning matches won you leagues. Don't be obtuse, you must know what I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: Goals win matches, clean sheets win leagues. Not a single divisional champion in the English league had the best defensive record their respective division last season* *Newcastle had the join best, but not outright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Got that wrong btw The expression is Defences keep you up Forwards get you up Not a bad attempt though 3/10 for effort Nope wrong again., but I have to get up in the morning, even if you don't...go to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: Don't get all irrational now, it's just not worth it, I don't support Swindon Down,you naughty boy, I did live there though, can you understand? So not City and a Troll too, blimey you should get out more. You need to get out of harping on about the RAF and Atyeo and understand the game maybe the roundabouts confuse you or you still think it's 1950 Troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 24 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Not a single divisional champion in the English league had the best defensive record their respective division last season* *Newcastle had the join best, but not outright. OK I will give you that, however coming back to us...it is pretty obvious we need to strengthen defensively, we have to a certain extent with Pisano , Baker etc, and would like to see the GK position improved too. The old days when it was 2 points a win and 1 for a draw was probably more relevant as far as having a rock solid defence., never agreed with the 3 points for a win, if it was just 2 points for a win where would we be in the league to-day? 6th play offs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: You need to get out of harping on about the RAF and Atyeo and understand the game maybe the roundabouts confuse you or you still think it's 1950 Troll Well yes maybe, but at least I have had a life of sorts...you? Ssssh let's not go there. Actually that's quite flattering you should take an interest in my past, a bit sad but whatever gets you off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: Well yes maybe, but at least I have had a life of sorts...you? Ssssh let's not go there. Actually that's quite flattering you should take an interest in my past, a bit sad but whatever gets you off. Sounds like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 55 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: OK I will give you that, however coming back to us...it is pretty obvious we need to strengthen defensively, we have to a certain extent with Pisano , Baker etc, and would like to see the GK position improved too. The old days when it was 2 points a win and 1 for a draw was probably more relevant as far as having a rock solid defence., never agreed with the 3 points for a win, if it was just 2 points for a win where would we be in the league to-day? 6th play offs Can't agree with you about strengthening the defence. We have the new keeper but the way Fielding is playing at the moment he's not being shifted some time soon. As for the back four, as soon as Pisano is fit Flint will be back to the bench with Baker and Wright back in tandem. What with Bryan now looking like the player that most of us thought he could be, why do we obviously need to strengthen? What with Steel as back up keeper, Vyner and Kelly cover at fullback, Flint and Mags for the Center Back berths. With none of our defenders being 30yo and most a lot younger, you would assume that there is still improvement in most of them. We might have let in a few goals but for me the defence is not a worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Davefevs said: Would be good to see a breakdown of where the shots came from. ....the grassy knoll ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Think since last season we have progressed in defence. The opponents have good and tricky players so its hard to keep clean sheet. 10 conceded in 8 games is nothing to talk about. When we drop the ball in midfield and then a counter attack its difficault to defend. The way we are playing its nice and effective I think. As long as we score more than concede its no problem. Our four back works hard as a unit, our mf helps to defend. Looking good. We are good in the air and play naughty sometimes, like that. We have been far so nice before. Take a yelllow when it needs. Baker, not nice to meet him, he he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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