One Team In Keynsham Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Came across this article on the Guardian's web page. Enjoy some corkers from a fair smattering of the finest players in their, or possibly any, era:https://www.theguardian.com/football/the-gentleman-ultra/2017/sep/20/golazos-25-best-goals-serie-a-seasons-football-italia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said: Came across this article on the Guardian's web page. Enjoy some corkers from a fair smattering of the finest players in their, or possibly any, era:https://www.theguardian.com/football/the-gentleman-ultra/2017/sep/20/golazos-25-best-goals-serie-a-seasons-football-italia I think that Gascoine goal at number 20 is one of my favourites ever. Good article that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second City Exile Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Another Keynsham exile posting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, Second City Exile said: Another Keynsham exile posting ? I guess so. The town's motto is "Many leave, few return." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Just watch Baggio's touch to control the ball on the number one goal. Made me gasp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second City Exile Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Sorry didn't mean to hijack your (serious) thread ! Overcome to see Keynsham mentioned. Left 45 years ago- not been back since 2012. Only one team in Keynsham? Are Keynsham Cricketers FC now defunct ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Used to love a bit of Football Italia on a Sunday afternoon. It seemed so much more exotic than the English football at the time. I think they had the 3 foreigner rule for a few years, so most of the non-Italians at the big clubs were huge international names. Some cracking goals and players on that list. Surprised Signori didn't make it on there. He seemed to score every week he was on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Gazred said: Used to love a bit of Football Italia on a Sunday afternoon. It seemed so much more exotic than the English football at the time. I think they had the 3 foreigner rule for a few years, so most of the non-Italians at the big clubs were huge international names. Some cracking goals and players on that list. Surprised Signori didn't make it on there. He seemed to score every week he was on. Brilliant one-step penalty technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballwinningcentrehalf Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Not sure if that era will ever be bettered for me (in any league). World class attacking talents, genuinely world class defending (does that exist anymore?), James Richardson in a different coffee shop every Saturday morning for Gazetta and Peter Brackley and co talking us through the live game on a Sunday (in a time way before I was lucky enough to have decent internet or Sky Sports). Christ, I miss those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNasty Filth Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 The Saturday program was probably the best football magazine show there ever has been. Nothing comes close nowadays, even with all the money SS and the likes have to throw at it. Then again it is 4am in the morning, so forgive my potential deludedness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 8 hours ago, Gazred said: Used to love a bit of Football Italia on a Sunday afternoon. It seemed so much more exotic than the English football at the time. I think they had the 3 foreigner rule for a few years, so most of the non-Italians at the big clubs were huge international names. Some cracking goals and players on that list. Surprised Signori didn't make it on there. He seemed to score every week he was on. Same here always a good watch after a sunday lunch! Had some great players back in the day the likes of Maldini who is one of the best defenders ever to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, Super said: Same here always a good watch after a sunday lunch! Had some great players back in the day the likes of Maldini who is one of the best defenders ever to play the game. Takes me back to happier simpler times! Agreed re Maldini. Read recently that him and baresi played about 130 games together at centre back for Milan, obviously maldini was usually left back, and that pairing conceded 29 goals in that time! I was never much of a fan of baresi, he must have been a nightmare to play against, but maldini was unbelievable. Looks like me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, simon uk said: Takes me back to happier simpler times! Agreed re Maldini. Read recently that him and baresi played about 130 games together at centre back for Milan, obviously maldini was usually left back, and that pairing conceded 29 goals in that time! I was never much of a fan of baresi, he must have been a nightmare to play against, but maldini was unbelievable. Looks like me too. 902 games for Milan in all competitions. Legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Super said: 902 games for Milan in all competitions. Legend. One of the all time legends of the game without a doubt. Masterful defender, really classy. Not quite the same stature in Pro tennis though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gazred said: One of the all time legends of the game without a doubt. Masterful defender, really classy. Not quite the same stature in Pro tennis though! Least he didn't try boxing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Super said: Least he didn't try boxing! Haha, yeh good luck with that Rio! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 https://thesefootballtimes.co/2016/01/31/in-celebration-of-paolo-maldini-the-greatest-defender-of-his-age/ Good read this bit stood out: The problem with quality defending is that it’s often hard to tell when it’s happening. Chest thumping centre-halves in the mould of John Terry or Nemanja Vidić may steal the headlines, but that doesn’t diminish the role that intelligent defenders play. It’s all about positioning and reading the situation. In other words, a great defender is essentially a highly paid bodyguard. Never ignored, but hardly ever thanked. If they do their job correctly, everyone focuses on the star. If they fail, it’s their fault alone. It may not be a completely thankless task, but it’s a testament to Maldini’s footballing intelligence that he’s revered for his influence and consistency over the decades. One-club players are often few and far between, and they’re becoming an increasing rarity in an era in where loyalty means little when compared to a higher wage, or the allure of silverware. Players like Maldini don’t come around often – and few can match his success rate at the very top of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Would suggest that- and I remember the tailend of Football Italia only- but would suggest that peak Serie A was better than peak PL or better than peak any League- for depth and competitiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Series a was superb, then the money ran out and the scandals hit. It seems to me that there were more world class players spread around in the past too, look at batistuta at fiorentina, all the top players at Milan, Baggio at juventus, ronaldo at inter, Parma had a spell as a top team with Buffon Thurman and cannavaro, then lazio and Roma had their time. Happy days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 I believe that Maldini is the greatest defender to have played the game. Truly masterful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 During that time, I used to believe George Weah was a true god amongst men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 6 hours ago, jaydee=inspiration said: The Saturday program was probably the best football magazine show there ever has been. Nothing comes close nowadays, even with all the money SS and the likes have to throw at it. Then again it is 4am in the morning, so forgive my potential deludedness! This x 100000 - James Richardson was brilliant. Does anyone know if he's City or Rovers... or neither? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, Tomarse said: This x 100000 - James Richardson was brilliant. Does anyone know if he's City or Rovers... or neither? neither That's better. Now, who do you support? Roma, because they were the first Italian club I ever saw. I was taken there by my then-girlfriend, a Roma supporter, to see them draw 0-0 with Monaco in 1991. I was having a relationship with Italy as much as with that girlfriend. You know what it is, if you were to go out with a girl from Chelmsford, should you be so fortunate, you'd probably find that everything to do with Essex is somehow lent a certain charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 A good selection of goals: as a supporter, I remember well the Inter ones, but also some of the others listed. At that time, Serie A was hugely better than now in terms of quality and competitiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 I'm shocked that Channel 4 hasn't thought of bringing back Football Italia. The rights to a highlight show (and the odd match) shouldn't cost much, and if hosted by the right people I reckon a modern take on it could be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, EnderMB said: I'm shocked that Channel 4 hasn't thought of bringing back Football Italia. The rights to a highlight show (and the odd match) shouldn't cost much, and if hosted by the right people I reckon a modern take on it could be great. Trouble is the quality of Italian football went down the pan. Its only just starting to get better now. The PL & La Liga has robbed it of all its talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Tomarse said: Trouble is the quality of Italian football went down the pan. Its only just starting to get better now. The PL & La Liga has robbed it of all its talent. A lot of it is down to perception. Sky constantly spout bollocks about how the Premier League is the greatest league in the world, when our teams have struggled in the Champions League for the better part of a decade. I'd say that the best leagues are the ones that are readily available. If Sky are happy to price people out of watching La Liga and the Premier League then perhaps the best league will be the one that is readily available for everyone to watch? Get streaming rights to Serie A on All4, and add Football Italia to Channel 4, and people will probably talk about Inter and Roma as much as they talk about Burnley and West Brom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Serie A had problems off the pitch, which quite quickly fed into on the pitch. FWIW, last few years- say 2 or 3, it's not been that bad. Only compared to what it was at it's peak... Fairly empty stadia, aging grounds- plenty not renovated since 1990 WC, suspicions of corruption let's say- borne out in 06. Money drying up was another factor but there were lots of others which quickly impacted on the pitch. Also, having to put in passport details (combination of Ultra hooliganism issues, and perception of issues and the Mafia problem) to buy a ticket for example puts a lot of people off and drives down revenue- more clubs in Serie A are now developing youth which gets poached by top 5 or 6 clubs, is an alternative route, but takes significant time. Atalanta for example have a terrific academy. Given all the problems off the pitch there, I'm surprised it's still 4th best in Europe tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Super said: 902 games for Milan in all competitions. Legend. Unquestionably so. Won a few things too: Honours Club Milan Serie A: 1987–88, 1991–92, 1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1998–99, 2003–04 Coppa Italia: 2002–03 Supercoppa Italiana: 1992, 1993, 2004 European Cup/Champions League: 1988–89, 1989–90, 1993–94, 2002–03, 2006–07 UEFA Super Cup: 1989, 1990, 1994, 2003 Intercontinental Cup: 1989, 1990 FIFA Club World Cup: 2007 International Italy FIFA World Cup: Runners-up 1994, Third-place 1990 UEFA European Football Championship: Runners-up 2000, Semi-finalists 1988 UEFA European Under-21 Championship: Runners-up 1986 Individual UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 1988, 1996, 2000 Bravo Award: 1989 FIFA World Cup All-Star Team: 1990, 1994 Ballon d'Or: Third-place 1994,2003 World Soccer Player of the Year: 1994 UNICEF European Footballer of the Season: 1993–94 ESM Team of the Year: 1994–95, 1995–96, 1999–00, 2002–03 FIFA World Player of the Year: Silver Award 1995 Premio Nazionale Carriera Esemplare "Gaetano Scirea": 2002 FIFA World Cup Dream Team: 2002 FIFA XI: 2002 UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match: 2003 UEFA Team of the Year: 2003, 2005 UEFA President's Award: 2003 Serie A Defender of the Year: 2004 FIFA 100 UEFA Golden Jubilee Poll: #10 FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2005 UEFA Club Defender of the Year: 2007 Premio internazionale Giacinto Facchetti: 2008 FIFA Order of Merit: 2008 UEFA Champions League Achievement Award: 2009 Marca Leyenda: 2009 Italian Football Hall of Fame: 2012 World Soccer Greatest XI of all time: 2013 One Club Man Award: 2016 UEFA Euro All-time XI A.C. Milan Hall of Fame Records Most appearances in all competitions (A.C. Milan): 902 Most league appearances (only Serie A regular-seasons): 647 Most league appearances for A.C. Milan (only Serie A regular-seasons): 647 Second-most UEFA club competitions appearances: 174 Most UEFA club competitions appearances for A.C. Milan: 174 Most European competitions appearances: 168 Most European competitions appearances for A.C. Milan: 168 Most UEFA Champions Leagueappearances for A.C. Milan: 139 Most finals played in UEFA Champions League – 8 (tied with Francisco Gento) Youngest first-team player (A.C. Milan): 16 years and 208 days (against Udinese, 20 January 1985) Longest-serving player (A.C. Milan): 24 years and 132 days (from 20 January 1985 to 31 May 2009) Most FIFA World Cup appearances for Italy: 23 Record of minutes played in the World Cups: 2216 Fastest goal scored in UEFA Champions League/European Cup final history: 50 seconds, 2005 Oldest player to score a goal in UEFA Champions League/European Cup final history: aged 36 years and 333 days, playing for A.C. Milan against Liverpool, 2005 Orders 4th Class / Officer: Ufficiale Ordine al Merito della Repubblica Italiana:2000 5th Class / Knight: Cavaliere Ordine al Merito della Repubblica Italiana: 1991 Only really missing a finals win with Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Serie A had problems off the pitch, which quite quickly fed into on the pitch. FWIW, last few years- say 2 or 3, it's not been that bad. Only compared to what it was at it's peak... Fairly empty stadia, aging grounds- plenty not renovated since 1990 WC, suspicions of corruption let's say- borne out in 06. Money drying up was another factor but there were lots of others which quickly impacted on the pitch. Also, having to put in passport details (combination of Ultra hooliganism issues, and perception of issues and the Mafia problem) to buy a ticket for example puts a lot of people off and drives down revenue- more clubs in Serie A are now developing youth which gets poached by top 5 or 6 clubs, is an alternative route, but takes significant time. Atalanta for example have a terrific academy. Given all the problems off the pitch there, I'm surprised it's still 4th best in Europe tbh. FWIW, the San Siro is my favourite Stadium I've ever watched football in. Brilliant atmosphere and only about 35k fans out of 80k seats. Would love to go again when/if it is full. The football is nowhere near as bad as people are told. Juventus have made two of the last three CL finals so it cannot be that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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