Robbored Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 13 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I think you've posted this nigh on 60 times now with slightly different wording on various threads this season Maybe not 60 times. 4 possibly.......... Thing is PF not everyone appreciates just how different the set up at AG these days is and may have missed my previous posts on the same subject.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted September 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 54 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Isn’t our ‘goals conceded’ slightly worse with Flint in the side? Not really sure what I’d do if it were up to me. We have a good range of personnel with different skill sets. 3 clean sheets in the last 5 games. Can’t really complain about that. It’s a tough decision for Johnson! Bolton & Ipswich up next. The former I think we can afford to make the changes at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 It's pretty refreshing - having the dilemma of picking between too many good players, rather than not having enough good players. The sort of problems a manager must cherish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, Negan said: 3 clean sheets in the last 5 games. Can’t really complain about that. It’s a tough decision for Johnson! Bolton & Ipswich up next. The former I think we can afford to make the changes at the back. No need to change anything. Same back 4 as at Carrow Rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 14 minutes ago, Robbored said: Maybe not 60 times. 4 possibly.......... Thing is PF not everyone appreciates just how different the set up at AG these days is and may have missed my previous posts on the same subject.......... 4/60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Don Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 No changes required at the back, it’s not broke so doesn’t need fixing. No need to rush Eros back and risk aggravating the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: 4/60 Had to think about that one but not for 4 mins........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 In all honestly I don't think there is much at all between Wright, Flint and Baker. In the long run, I think maybe Pisano-Wright-Baker-Bryan is the best selection but at the moment Flint and Baker are doing well and Wright is doing well at right back so I think the pressure is on Pisano to win back his place. I'd not automatically make changes whilst things are working out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Bring back Eros as he offers more going forward in general play. Drop Flint to bench as I think we are better defensively with Wright/Baker. (Though miss Flint at set plays obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Cider Ed Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 For me pisano has to wait it out for his place back. I wouldn't go changing a back 4 that has kept 2 clean sheets in 3 very tricky away games just for the sake of it. It might well be that he gets his place straight back due to fitness issues of other players and if so then that player that misses out should then have to wait there chance if team is playing well. This is the beauty of our squad, maybe Bryan or brownhill (personal opinion) apart i dont think anyone does or should get in automatically. It's a long old season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Depending on who's fit LJ should go with the team that he thinks are going to beat Bolton on Tuesday. Wright if he plays RB is less of an offensive threat than Pisano and we are the home team and should go with as an offensive team as possible but also mindful of any threats Bolton have. i don't care who plays CB on Tuesday as I don't think it matters, they are all good players and know their roles when they are given the opportunity to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, INCRED said: Depending on who's fit LJ should go with the team that he thinks are going to beat Bolton on Tuesday. Wright if he plays RB is less of an offensive threat than Pisano and we are the home team and should go with as an offensive team as possible but also mindful of any threats Bolton have. i don't care who plays CB on Tuesday as I don't think it matters, they are all good players and know their roles when they are given the opportunity to play This my view too. We should be picking a side that can best deal with/cause problems to the opposition and if that means changing things around then that`s fine with me. As long as the players buy into the idea and why we`re doing it it shouldn`t be a problem - I think most players these days accept that the game has changed and clubs need to use their squads fully and if that means someone being rested then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox6060 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Like Eros but no changes for me, Bailey Wright is doing OK at full back and the centre two are both playing well, someone will get suspended or injured soon so he can step back in then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Of our first team back 5 options, namely Pisano, Flint, Baker, Wright & Bryan, I'd say that Pisano is quite comfortably the weakest of these options. I certainly wouldn't be dropping the others to rush him back in. His time will come when others need a rest or can't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 33 minutes ago, INCRED said: Depending on who's fit LJ should go with the team that he thinks are going to beat Bolton on Tuesday. Wright if he plays RB is less of an offensive threat than Pisano and we are the home team and should go with as an offensive team as possible but also mindful of any threats Bolton have. i don't care who plays CB on Tuesday as I don't think it matters, they are all good players and know their roles when they are given the opportunity to play Well said LJ................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Of our first team back 5 options, namely Pisano, Flint, Baker, Wright & Bryan, I'd say that Pisano is quite comfortably the weakest of these options. I certainly wouldn't be dropping the others to rush him back in. His time will come when others need a rest or can't play. Not sure how you can compare a centre half with a right back - it’s an entirely different skill set. I don’t think he’s a weak link at all - full backs need to be specialists. Wright has been fine filling in for a bit but I’d rather play players in their natural positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 We can be Eros, for ever and ever, what do you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Not sure how you can compare a centre half with a right back - it’s an entirely different skill set. I don’t think he’s a weak link at all - full backs need to be specialists. Wright has been fine filling in for a bit but I’d rather play players in their natural positions. Because one of our centre backs has been filling in for Pisano maybe..?! We've looked stronger defensively since Eros was replaced by Wright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Because one of our centre backs has been filling in for Pisano maybe..?! We've looked stronger defensively since Eros was replaced by Wright. Only for a couple of games though, would need a bigger sample size. Don’t think he’s comfortable enough attacking or in possession for it to be a long term solution. Would pick Wright there over Vyner though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Nine Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 So when fit we put Eros back into the team because he offers more going forward, put wright back at centre half and drop Flint..one of our biggest goal threats? Seems really conflicted to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Wright played a few games in row there, based on what LJ has said this season about rotation, I'd assume we'll see Pisano back before long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Red_Nine said: So when fit we put Eros back into the team because he offers more going forward, put wright back at centre half and drop Flint..one of our biggest goal threats? Seems really conflicted to me! Pisano better offensively from open play, but still a threat from set plays. Flint is a more of a threat from set pieces - and a very useful one - but I'd still rest him for this game. Think Wright has been exposed a bit at right back. Understandable as his not his best position and has a relatively inexperienced Lecko in front of him . Also I don't think you can necessarily attribute a better defensive display solely down to Flint coming back in. Think the performance of our central midfield -almost regardless of personnel - has improved in recent games so defence has been better shielded. I'd go Pisano especially if we go with Lecko wide right. I think we are better balanced playing players in the natural positions. Could always bring Flint on if Bolton prove difficult to break down. Just my opinion though. Whoever plays CB could be up against Wilbs which should be an interesting tussle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 17 minutes ago, Red Army Faction said: Whoever plays CB could be up against Wilbs which should be an interesting tussle. 9 league games in and Wilbraham hasn't started any of them for Bolton yet, so I'd think it unlikely. However with just 2 points gained all season and only 4 goals scored, they must be approaching "anything is worth a try" territory soon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, GrahamC said: 9 league games in and Wilbraham hasn't started any of them for Bolton yet, so I'd think it unlikely. However with just 2 points gained all season and only 4 goals scored, they must be approaching "anything is worth a try" territory soon.... Didn't know that. If I was Parkinson I'd play him. Players often do well against former clubs and Wilbs will probably want to show LJ he still has it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Red Army Faction said: Didn't know that. If I was Parkinson I'd play him. Players often do well against former clubs and Wilbs will probably want to show LJ he still has it. Me too. Not like they would be leaving out Lukaku or Aguerro to fit him in, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 I think Eros will turn out to be one of the best RBs in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Madine is a very underrated striker of his type. Probably not the goals record you’d want, but he is very good back to goal and nice touch too. He won’t run in behind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 49 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Madine is a very underrated striker of his type. Probably not the goals record you’d want, but he is very good back to goal and nice touch too. He won’t run in behind you. Yep, good player. Another one who will play well into his 30s because his best attributes won’t decline that fast. Would’ve quite liked us to sign him in L1, think we were linked a couple of years ago but just rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Yep, good player. Another one who will play well into his 30s because his best attributes won’t decline that fast. Would’ve quite liked us to sign him in L1, think we were linked a couple of years ago but just rumours. I think we were - when he was at Wednesday? A slightly younger version of Wilbs but I think he has a bit of off the field history though so it might not have been for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyb Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 My way of seeing it is that we shouldn't be waiting for a bad performance or a mistake to change the team. Have to pick the team that LJ feels is best suited to win the match; this will change depending on opponent. Only if fully fit, I'd go Pisano. If not then probably Wright with Vyner a consideration if it is felt he would give us a more potent threat attacking wise down the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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