havanatopia Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) Benjamin Huntsman is revered in Sheffield. Not because he scored the winning goal that saw Wednesday go on to win their inaugural top flight title in 1903, nor because he was the first to organise proper black outs from the bombing raids of the Luftwaffe in the second world war nor that he went over the top at the Somme in 1916 where we lost nearly 60,000 men on the first day, the largest number ever for a single day, by the British military. The name Huntsman is not revered for these things but he likely could have been had he been around. Huntsman is revered for inventing the 'Crucible Steel Process' in 1742 following years of experimentation from his Handsworth, south Sheffield Foundry. He was the first person to cast steel ingots. Until the mid-18th century, the quality of steel produced was unreliable. Steel was made by heating iron bars, covered with charcoal, for up to a week. The end product was called "blister steel". Blister steel was then turned into "shear steel" by wrapping blister steel bars into a bundle and re-reheating them before forging the bundle. The heat and action of the forge hammer welded the bundles together to the required size. Although this steel was used to make razors, files, knives and swords, the process was extremely laborious and no more than 200 tons a year were produced in Sheffield in this way. Benjamin Huntsman's invention of the crucible steel process changed all of that. He was the first person to cast steel bars, producing tougher, high-quality steel in larger quantities (from less than 200 tons of steel a year to more than 20,000 tons, or 40% of total European steel production, a century later). The demand for Huntsman's steel increased rapidly and, in 1770, he moved his factory to a new site in Attercliffe in the Don Valley. This area later became the main location for the huge special-steel making industry of Sheffield. The sagacity of Huntsman caused him to be looked upon as the 'wise man' of the neighbourhood. He even practised surgery as an empiric, and was regarded as a clever oculist, but he always gave medical aid free of charge. The wealth created in Sheffield and by steel was a joint effort however; Huntsman was pivotal in that he enabled the mass production of cutlery for the first time and Britain soon dominated world production. A year after Huntsman's invention came another Sheffield cutler, Thomas Boulsover (1705-1788), who devised a means of fusing a thin layer of silver to copper to produce silver plate the famous 'Sheffield Plate' that looked like silver but was far cheaper, and was to take silver-plated cutlery into the dining rooms of almost every middle class family in the land. Boulsover noticed that silver and copper had fused together very strongly after heating. Experiments showed that the two metals behaved as one when he tried to reshape them, even though he could clearly see two different layers. Boulsover carried out further experiments in which he put a thin sheet of silver on a thick ingot of copper and heated the two together to fuse them. When the composite block was hammered or rolled to make it thinner, the two metals were reduced in thickness at similar rates. Using this method, Boulsover was able to make sheets of metal which had a thin layer of silver on the top surface and a thick layer of copper underneath. This silver plate was, of course, cheaper than silver and was very popular for items such as candlesticks and teapots. In 1856 another cutler named Henry Bessemer introduced a new method of producing steel, using a special furnace called a convertor. This came after years of experimentation. The Bessemer process was able to produce much larger quantities of refined steel than the crucible process. It was worked by blowing air into the bottom of the furnace so that it bubbled through the molten iron. This burned carbon from the iron producing a great deal of heat as it refined the metal. The 150th anniversary of this invention is being celebrated. One of Bessemer's converters can still be seen at Kelham Island Museum. Well worth a visit I can tell you. And we must most definitely mention Chemist Harry Brearley. In 1907 Brearley returned to Sheffield from abroad to take charge of the Brown-Firth Research Laboratory. Five years later he was investigating the corrosion of rifle barrels. As a result of his investigations, he developed a chrome alloy steel which was much more rust resistant than the steel which had been used until then. This is now known as Stainless Steel. Brearley's chrome steel formed the basis for the wide range of stainless and special steels which are now used so widely. And his successor Dr. Hatfield further developed this process with what today is known as 18/8 steel. Or, if one is spending a little more, 18/10 which denotes the amount of chromium to nickel. John Brown who had taken out the first licence to produce what was to become known as Bessemer Steel created the 'The Bessemer boom' and made Sheffield the kings of world steel. Its products were sent all over the world. In 1871, two firms, Browns & Cammells, exported to America three times as much railway track as was produced by the entire American domestic industry. By 1880, production of Bessemer steel was over a million tons out of a total production of about 1.3M tons. Quite remarkable. Sheffield was probably second to nobody as the driver of industrialization of Britain, its empire and the world at large. We all of us owe an enormous debt to the steel city of Sheffield. But no ground will be given, no quarter ceded, and no effort relinquished in the pursuit of a victory today between two undisputed kings of industrialization. And as Confucius once said; "It does not matter how slowly you go so long as you do not stop". Or as Sir Winston Churchill said; "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: It is the courage to continue that counts" City will have more days like Leeds Utd before this season is out and one never knows the mindset after yet another laborious international break, we will soon find out. Hillsborough is always a very nice away day. Hope you all enjoy the journey and help bring back the points. Edited November 18, 2017 by havanatopia 15 Quote Link to comment
CyderInACan Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Big win for the Rugby club in Yorkshire last night so let's hope the Football club can put in a copycat performance. COYR 2 Quote Link to comment
locobaker Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Great information again. Just walked dog beautiful day here in Peterborough. Off to game at 10. Stopping at Whitby Fish and Chip Restaurant in Rotherham on way for Lunch. Safe Journey all. Up the Reds 4 Quote Link to comment
cidered abroad Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Absolutely superb Havanatopia. I went on a school trip aged 12 to see a Bessemer converter at a steel works in Cardiff. One of the most awesome sights I've ever seen. The heat was overpowering. Just like I hope City can be this afternoon. 1 Quote Link to comment
Squeak Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Is it just me that thinks Hillsborough isn’t as good as Bramall Lane? It just seemed a bit tattered and run down when I went. Quote Link to comment
Leveller Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Squeak said: Is it just me that thinks Hillsborough isn’t as good as Bramall Lane? It just seemed a bit tattered and run down when I went. It was a leading ground, used for the 1966 World Cup and many FA Cup semi finals, but doesn’t seem to have been improved in 50 years. Quote Link to comment
Offside Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Last season’s game up there seemed to be a turning point when things stared to go pear shaped for us. Hopefully today’s game will be better for us. I reckon we’ve got enough about us this season to get at least a draw. Quote Link to comment
The Coach Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 90 odd miles to go here. Busy on the M42. 1 Quote Link to comment
ZiderEyed Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 2-1 to LJ's threshing machine. Up the City. 2 Quote Link to comment
exAtyeoMax Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: 2-1 to LJ's threshing machine. Up the City. I like that… 1 Quote Link to comment
Pound Lane Red Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 No traffic worries on the train. Hurtling down the east coast. A nice day at present. Hoping for a draw at least. Quote Link to comment
Red34 Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Think the other Sheffield will be the much harder game, but always wary of Wednesday too. Fingers crossed we'll get the result. Come on you Reds! Quote Link to comment
BobBobSuperBob Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Have a feeling we might come unstuck today Another unhappy hunting ground for us But then again Norwich , Ipswich and Wolves have also been Just a bad vibe today Sill think they have one of best squads in Champ Dig in Boys COYR Quote Link to comment
downendcity Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 38 minutes ago, Leveller said: It was a leading ground, used for the 1966 World Cup and many FA Cup semi finals, but doesn’t seem to have been improved in 50 years. Probably the last traditional old big ground ? The "new" cantilever stand was, I think, built for the 66 World Cup and at the time was state of the art engineering design. Still impressive and imposing when you go into the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment
ashton_fan Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Looking at Wednesday's forum there's more pressure on them to beat us following Blades win last night moving them to top. If we could just get a good start the knives could be out for the Wednesday boss. Quote Link to comment
Eddie Notgetinya Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 To compensate for Wright/Pisano out it'll either be the same back 4 as Cardiff or Mags will be dropped and Vyner will come in at RB. Whoever comes in will need to be on it to give us a chance. COYR 1 Quote Link to comment
cityexile Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Not feeling too confident today, thought they would be right up there, and might still. Also won a couple of decent games, and finally think our missing players are going to catch up with us at some stage. Equally, felt that about a lot of games this season where we have done well. Certainly owe them for a real turning point last season. Draw would be decent. 1 Quote Link to comment
ZiderEyed Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 46 minutes ago, NorwichbasedWurzel said: To compensate for Wright/Pisano out it'll either be the same back 4 as Cardiff or Mags will be dropped and Vyner will come in at RB. Whoever comes in will need to be on it to give us a chance. COYR Does that mean Vyner will be up against Reach? *gulp* 1 Quote Link to comment
The Journalist Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Fielding Smith - Flint - Baker - Bryan Paterson - Pack - Brownhill - O'Dowda Reid - Djuric Quote Link to comment
ZiderEyed Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) Fielding Vyner - Flint - Baker - Bryan Pack O'Dowda - Brownhill - Smith - Paterson Young Bobby Edited November 18, 2017 by ZiderEyed Switched Paterson and O'Dowda 1 Quote Link to comment
Garland-sweden Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 We have the chance to win. SW is a good team, we are also good. Always believe, COYR!!! Quote Link to comment
reddogkev Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 COME ON CITY, BRING HOME THE 3 POINTS. I can see a 2-1 City win with Reid and Flint scoring. I would also accept a draw. COME ON YOU REDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Go on LJ, let's do it. Go on SL, bring back the points. Quote Link to comment
reddogkev Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Garland-sweden said: We have the chance to win. SW is a good team, we are also good. Always believe, COYR!!! Yes indeed - COYR!!! Quote Link to comment
cheshire_red Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Pound Lane Red said: No traffic worries on the train. Hurtling down the east coast. A nice day at present. Hoping for a draw at least. If I had known I'd have joined you at Berwick Quote Link to comment
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Think Wednesday's attacking style will play into our hands, and we will come away with the points. We will destroy them on the counter attack hopefully. Quote Link to comment
The Coach Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 It’s going to be a cold one up here come 3pm. Easy parking unlike AG Quote Link to comment
Son of Fred Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 hours ago, NorwichbasedWurzel said: To compensate for Wright/Pisano out it'll either be the same back 4 as Cardiff or Mags will be dropped and Vyner will come in at RB. Whoever comes in will need to be on it to give us a chance. COYR Wouldn't bring Vyner in for this one-too often unsure positionally-they have a very tidy player wide left(Reach) who will have a field day.. Quote Link to comment
ZiderEyed Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, Robert the bruce said: Wouldn't bring Vyner in for this one-too often unsure positionally-they have a very tidy player wide left(Reach) who will have a field day.. Who do you play though? Not having Smith against their midfield would be awful. 1 Quote Link to comment
Corsham Ed Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Looking forward to this one. COYR’s. 2 Quote Link to comment
1891 B.C. Sweden Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) Fielding, Flint, Baker, Magnússon, O'Dowda, Smith, Brownhill, Pack, Bryan, Taylor, Reid. Subs: Steele, Vyner, Leko, Paterson, Eliasson, Djuric, Woodrow Edited November 18, 2017 by 1891 B.C. Sweden 1 Quote Link to comment
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