havanatopia Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) Middlesbrough was a very unimportant place, then came iron ore discovered in the Eston and Cleveland Hills. A port was built on the River Tees to transport the material around the country to build ships. And so It boomed for about a century and then it died. Middlesbrough is a very unimportant place. That last sentence is not true. Middlesborough cannot lay claim to being a tourist bastion but it did turn iron ore into steel although that industry has long gone as has refining oil sometime around 1990 and some years after the then ICI sold to Petroplus a Dutch group which, like ICI, is also now defunct. Teeside though does still lay claim to having the largest chemical plant in Europe, apparently, but likely the claim should more accurately say the largest agglomeration of multiple chemical plants that were spawned when ICI was broken up. Most of this employment lies in the massive works at Billingham and Wilton north and south, respectively, of the town of Middlesbrough. Ammonia, which was the first major chemical to be developed on Teeside, was planned to be used for making bombs for the Great War although the plant was not finished until after hostilities had ended. The manufacturing process for making ammonia had been pinched from Germany, well partly; BASF were the the first to make ammonia in 1913. Plants in Sheffield, France and the USA were also copied and that knowledge enabled Teeside chemical production to be pioneering. It all happened in Billingham and Grange Farm to be precise. Doris McKorkindale, her 9 siblings and 14 children were given an offer to vacate their small pig farm to make way for a behemoth of an ammonia plant. The 'Government Nitrogen Factory' was born operational from late 1918 and taken over by the private company Brunner Mond in 1920 merging with other companies in 1926 to form Imperial Chemical Industries or ICI. Production of ammonia centred around its use in fertilisers but this returned to munitions with the onset of WW2. The technologically advanced Wilton plant came later, officially opening in 1949. It was a showpiece of Industrial Britain and ICI was on top of the world. Middlesbrough, so named in the 7th century by monks who stopped here in the middle of their journey from Whitby Abbey to Durham. So, essentially, the place, even then, was considered worthy only of a piss break and a brew much like when one stops at Membury en route from Bristol to London. It was at least a brave new world when chemicals came to town and Teeside sat mighty and proud as the corner of Britain for making dirty and smelly ones; we owe them a debt of gratitude though for helping to see off the huns with ammonia for incendiaries. Aldous Huxley certainly thought so and after visiting the works at Grange Farm in Billingham he was inspired to write his book 'A Brave New World' in 1931. Perhaps this piece of music resonates the appropriate tone to a better time for Middlesbrough as experienced in those rather depressing days of 1984. Alan Parsons naming this album after the plant. As for what Middlesbrough, the town, stands for? RGs Erimus ("We shall be" in Latin) was chosen as Middlesbrough's motto in 1830. It recalls Fuimus ("We have been") the motto of the Norman/Scottish Bruce family, who were lords of Cleveland in the Middle Ages. The town's coat of arms is an azure lion, from the arms of the Bruce family, a star, from the arms of Captain James Cook, and two ships, representing shipbuilding and maritime trade. We shall be or we have been? You decide. As for the visiting Middlesbrough Football Club today; They represent the town quite probably more than most football clubs represent theirs. Why? Because when you go to Middlesbrough it feels like a disjointed amalgam of built up areas with no real heart; possibly because the current town hall is the second in the town's history located significantly further south than the first breaking the heart of a place if ever there was a cause. The football club provides the glue like no other place because it really needs it. I do love that second song from Alan Parsons. Eye in the Sky.. what a classic song that was. Just let the album play out in the build up to today's match. Come on City lets jump back into 4th place today please and see off the proud Teesiders . Edited December 2, 2017 by havanatopia 8 Quote Link to comment
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 I used to work for ICI....it's incredible to think that the bellwether of British industry is no more. UTC 2-0. Quote Link to comment
Frenchay Red Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 K.O. 1.30 am Sunday, W.A. time. Hope I wake up to a win. Quote Link to comment
elhombrecito Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said: K.O. 1.30 am Sunday, W.A. time. Hope I wake up to a win. I hope it goes better for you than getting up for the cricket has gone for me this morning! 1 Quote Link to comment
Major Isewater Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 2 hours ago, havanatopia said: Middlesbrough was a very unimportant place, then came iron ore discovered in the Eston and Cleveland Hills. A port was built on the River Tees to transport the material around the country to build ships. And so It boomed for about a century and then it died. Middlesbrough is a very unimportant place. That last sentence is not true. Middlesborough cannot lay claim to being a tourist bastion but it did turn iron ore into steel although that industry has long gone as has refining oil sometime around 1990 and some years after the then ICI sold to Petroplus a Dutch group which, like ICI, is also now defunct. Teeside though does still lay claim to having the largest chemical plant in Europe, apparently, but likely the claim should more accurately say the largest agglomeration of multiple chemical plants that were spawned when ICI was broken up. Most of this employment lies in the massive works at Billingham and Wilton north and south, respectively, of the town of Middlesbrough. Ammonia, which was the first major chemical to be developed on Teeside, was planned to be used for making bombs for the Great War although the plant was not finished until after hostilities had ended. The manufacturing process for making ammonia had been pinched from Germany, well partly; BASF were the the first to make ammonia in 1913. Plants in Sheffield, France and the USA were also copied and that knowledge enabled Teeside chemical production to be pioneering. It all happened in Billingham and Grange Farm to be precise. Doris McKorkindale, her 9 siblings and 14 children were given an offer to vacate their small pig farm to make way for a behemoth of an ammonia plant. The 'Government Nitrogen Factory' was born operational from late 1918 and taken over by the private company Brunner Mond in 1920 merging with other companies in 1926 to form Imperial Chemical Industries or ICI. Production of ammonia centred around its use in fertilisers but this returned to munitions with the onset of WW2. The technologically advanced Wilton plant came later, officially opening in 1949. It was a showpiece of Industrial Britain and ICI was on top of the world. Middlesbrough, so named in the 7th century by monks who stopped here in the middle of their journey from Whitby Abbey to Durham. So, essentially, the place, even then, was considered worthy only of a piss break and a brew much like when one stops at Membury en route from Bristol to London. It was at least a brave new world when chemicals came to town and Teeside sat mighty and proud as the corner of Britain for making dirty and smelly ones; we owe them a debt of gratitude though for helping to see off the huns with ammonia for incendiaries. Aldous Huxley certainly thought so and after visiting the works at Grange Farm in Billingham he was inspired to write his book 'A Brave New World' in 1931. Perhaps this piece of music resonates the appropriate tone to a better time for Middlesbrough as experienced in those rather depressing days of 1984. Alan Parsons naming this album after the plant. As for what Middlesbrough, the town, stands for? RGs Erimus ("We shall be" in Latin) was chosen as Middlesbrough's motto in 1830. It recalls Fuimus ("We have been") the motto of the Norman/Scottish Bruce family, who were lords of Cleveland in the Middle Ages. The town's coat of arms is an azure lion, from the arms of the Bruce family, a star, from the arms of Captain James Cook, and two ships, representing shipbuilding and maritime trade. We shall be or we have been? You decide. As for the visiting Middlesbrough Football Club today; They represent the town quite probably more than most football clubs represent theirs. Why? Because when you go to Middlesbrough it feels like a disjointed amalgam of built up areas with no real heart; possibly because the current town hall is the second in the town's history located significantly further south than the first breaking the heart of a place if ever there was a cause. The football club provides the glue like no other place because it really needs it. I do love that second song from Alan Parsons. Eye in the Sky.. what a classic song that was. Just let the album play out in the build up to today's match. Come on City lets jump back into 4th place today please and see off the proud Teesiders . Here is the protest song against the Chemical industry in Middlesbrough, " Ammonia , poor little sparrow " , much more apt H. 1 Quote Link to comment
havanatopia Posted December 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 5 hours ago, El Hombrecito said: I hope it goes better for you than getting up for the cricket has gone for me this morning! The Rugby League was a good performance by England even though a rather predictable outcome. So predictable in fact that even a couple of Australian acquaintances wanted England to win. Cricket Australia meanwhile plug away with a resilient recovery after the loss of Smith. All quiet on here today; people all having a lie in? Quote Link to comment
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, havanatopia said: The Rugby League was a good performance by England even though a rather predictable outcome. So predictable in fact that even a couple of Australian acquaintances wanted England to win. Cricket Australia meanwhile plug away with a resilient recovery after the loss of Smith. All quiet on here today; people all having a lie in? I`m certainly struggling to get going this morning with my timings all to cock. I keep thinking I should have left two hours ago. 1 Quote Link to comment
AshtonGreat Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 7 hours ago, havanatopia said: Middlesbrough was a very unimportant place, then came iron ore discovered in the Eston and Cleveland Hills. A port was built on the River Tees to transport the material around the country to build ships. And so It boomed for about a century and then it died. Middlesbrough is a very unimportant place. That last sentence is not true. Middlesborough cannot lay claim to being a tourist bastion but it did turn iron ore into steel although that industry has long gone as has refining oil sometime around 1990 and some years after the then ICI sold to Petroplus a Dutch group which, like ICI, is also now defunct. Teeside though does still lay claim to having the largest chemical plant in Europe, apparently, but likely the claim should more accurately say the largest agglomeration of multiple chemical plants that were spawned when ICI was broken up. Most of this employment lies in the massive works at Billingham and Wilton north and south, respectively, of the town of Middlesbrough. Ammonia, which was the first major chemical to be developed on Teeside, was planned to be used for making bombs for the Great War although the plant was not finished until after hostilities had ended. The manufacturing process for making ammonia had been pinched from Germany, well partly; BASF were the the first to make ammonia in 1913. Plants in Sheffield, France and the USA were also copied and that knowledge enabled Teeside chemical production to be pioneering. It all happened in Billingham and Grange Farm to be precise. Doris McKorkindale, her 9 siblings and 14 children were given an offer to vacate their small pig farm to make way for a behemoth of an ammonia plant. The 'Government Nitrogen Factory' was born operational from late 1918 and taken over by the private company Brunner Mond in 1920 merging with other companies in 1926 to form Imperial Chemical Industries or ICI. Production of ammonia centred around its use in fertilisers but this returned to munitions with the onset of WW2. The technologically advanced Wilton plant came later, officially opening in 1949. It was a showpiece of Industrial Britain and ICI was on top of the world. Middlesbrough, so named in the 7th century by monks who stopped here in the middle of their journey from Whitby Abbey to Durham. So, essentially, the place, even then, was considered worthy only of a piss break and a brew much like when one stops at Membury en route from Bristol to London. It was at least a brave new world when chemicals came to town and Teeside sat mighty and proud as the corner of Britain for making dirty and smelly ones; we owe them a debt of gratitude though for helping to see off the huns with ammonia for incendiaries. Aldous Huxley certainly thought so and after visiting the works at Grange Farm in Billingham he was inspired to write his book 'A Brave New World' in 1931. Perhaps this piece of music resonates the appropriate tone to a better time for Middlesbrough as experienced in those rather depressing days of 1984. Alan Parsons naming this album after the plant. As for what Middlesbrough, the town, stands for? RGs Erimus ("We shall be" in Latin) was chosen as Middlesbrough's motto in 1830. It recalls Fuimus ("We have been") the motto of the Norman/Scottish Bruce family, who were lords of Cleveland in the Middle Ages. The town's coat of arms is an azure lion, from the arms of the Bruce family, a star, from the arms of Captain James Cook, and two ships, representing shipbuilding and maritime trade. We shall be or we have been? You decide. As for the visiting Middlesbrough Football Club today; They represent the town quite probably more than most football clubs represent theirs. Why? Because when you go to Middlesbrough it feels like a disjointed amalgam of built up areas with no real heart; possibly because the current town hall is the second in the town's history located significantly further south than the first breaking the heart of a place if ever there was a cause. The football club provides the glue like no other place because it really needs it. I do love that second song from Alan Parsons. Eye in the Sky.. what a classic song that was. Just let the album play out in the build up to today's match. Come on City lets jump back into 4th place today please and see off the proud Teesiders . Old and Wise by Alan Parsons is awesome 2 Quote Link to comment
I Am A Cider Drinker Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Lost my season ticket, some time since the Preston game, can briefly remember seeing it since then but no idea when, anyone know what I have to do to get a replacement? As supporter services are currently closed? 1 Quote Link to comment
CiderHider Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, I Am A Cider Drinker said: Lost my season ticket, some time since the Preston game, can briefly remember seeing it since then but no idea when, anyone know what I have to do to get a replacement? As supporter services are currently closed? Thats sucks man here call this number, they should be able to help 0117 963 0600 Or email: hello@bristol-sport.co.uk I'm positive you can get a replacement, you may have to pay a small admin charge for being such a dipstick and losing your ST Quote Link to comment
I Am A Cider Drinker Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Found it, bit embarrassing really, was drying out inside my jeans pocket having got a bit soggy Quote Link to comment
CotswoldRed Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 The most awful town in England. Quote Link to comment
Leveller Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 As for appropriate songs, try Vin Garbutt’s “The Chemical Worker’s Song”. Quote Link to comment
Garland-sweden Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Think we will play good today. 2-1 City. Always believe, COYR!!! Quote Link to comment
pongo88 Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Excellent as ever @havanatopia but this time I think you could have just used @BigTone‘s version - “ a sh*t hole in the north”. 1 Quote Link to comment
BigTone Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Excellent as ever @havanatopia but this time I think you could have just used @BigTone‘s version - “ a sh*t hole in the north”. Thanks Pongo you have saved me a job 1-0 City 1 Quote Link to comment
ZiderEyed Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 4-1 to LJ's threshing machine. Up the ******* City. 1 Quote Link to comment
cityloyal473 Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Anything but a loss will suffice today. Quote Link to comment
wendyredredrobin Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 They have 5 top quality players and another 6 decent ones. This game is worrying me more than most. It's a 6 pointer too. Quote Link to comment
Offside Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 After the poor performance against Preston and the first hour or so at Hull (despite the great result) it would be good to see a decent overall display from City today. We've got a fairly good recent record against Middlesbrough, so fingers crossed that continues today. Quote Link to comment
MC RISK77 Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 2 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: The most awful town in England. I raise you Blackburn Quote Link to comment
ZiderEyed Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 minute ago, MC RISK77 said: I raise you Blackburn I see your Blackburn and raise you a Stoke-on-Trent 1 Quote Link to comment
havanatopia Posted December 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: I see your Blackburn and raise you a Stoke-on-Trent Although a lot smaller i shall propose Blyth or perhaps Merthyr Tydfil. Both may have had a Grand Designs make over since i last went about a decade or so ago mind. Quote Link to comment
cityexile Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 39 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: They have 5 top quality players and another 6 decent ones. This game is worrying me more than most. It's a 6 pointer too. Where I am at the moment on this one. In fairness, the side has suprised me more than once this year, but our home form is not fantastic recently, injuries seem to be mounting up, and we are not actual playing that well last few games. Hopefull the match is more Cardiff than Preston, but would not be too disappointed with a draw from this one. 1 Quote Link to comment
wendyredredrobin Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 19 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: I see your Blackburn and raise you a Stoke-on-Trent A Barrow in Furness and i'll see you. Quote Link to comment
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Sheff Utd losing to Millwall, but I'm still worried about them! Quote Link to comment
Red Bill Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 hour ago, wendyredredrobin said: A Barrow in Furness and i'll see you. I lived (?) in 'Boro during the 1970s for two years though it felt like twenty and I can assure you that Barrow is Monaco compared to 'Boro. Quote Link to comment
havanatopia Posted December 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 It was certainly a welcome relief after travelling across the Pennines on the A69 and through the Lake District from blighted Blyth where the action isn't. From the boarding house to the bed sits full of accidents and fleas, thats Blyth. Quote Link to comment
CiderHider Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: A Barrow in Furness and i'll see you. I'm all in *heaves all chips to middle of table* Weston Super Mare. *sits back smug knowing his hand is a winner and tries to look scared for his chips trying to force someone else to go all in* Edited December 2, 2017 by CiderHider 1 Quote Link to comment
BanburyRed Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 19 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: A Barrow in Furness and i'll see you. All in with Burton upon Trent or Mansfield, both absolute hovels. Quote Link to comment
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