Robbored Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Especially as Cardiff lost but although City managed a point after the tremendous win on Wednesday I was a little disappointed with LJ putting Flint up top in the second half. To me it was a "another club in the bag" strategy that we saw from GJ with Jamie McCoombe all those years ago - basic, old fashioned and crude imo. Sure Flint won the penalty which earned a point but I'd rather have seen City adopt a more creative approach in which to save the game. i appreciate that a point is a point but as a footballing purist I'd rather not see that "anothe club in bag" strategy approach despite the fact it paid off today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Nice of you to start a new thread for what 300 have already said (regarding a point) on the matchday thread And the majority of the post and criticism of the Flint up top option/ decision - Sorry - but - Complete and utter tosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 I think its a fantastic point considering the week we have had. Really thought we would lose today. Sounded a superb second half effort. Well done to the boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Robbored said: Especially as Cardiff lost but although City managed a point after the tremendous win on Wednesday I was a little disappointed with LJ putting Flint up top in the second half. To me it was a "another club in the bag" strategy that we saw from GJ with Jamie McCoombe all those years ago - basic, old fashioned and crude imo. Sure Flint won the penalty which earned a point but I'd rather have seen City adopt a more creative approach in which to save the game. i appreciate that a point is a point but as a footballing purist I'd rather not see that "anothe club in bag" strategy approach despite the fact it paid off today. We've often criticised Lee Johnson for having no Plan B. Today, Plan B secured a valuable point and very nearly all three. What do you want? A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: We've often criticised Lee Johnson for having no Plan B. Today, Plan B secured a valuable point and very nearly all three. What do you want? A? Or plan C as LJ described it been working with Flint up top in training as he knew we would need the option on occasions with Milan and Fammy out You want us to play through every opposition home and away like Barcelona, with a injury ravaged squad do you Robbo ? Sill , a a bit more attention I guess #Lookatme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, Robbored said: Especially as Cardiff lost but although City managed a point after the tremendous win on Wednesday I was a little disappointed with LJ putting Flint up top in the second half. To me it was a "another club in the bag" strategy that we saw from GJ with Jamie McCoombe all those years ago - basic, old fashioned and crude imo. Sure Flint won the penalty which earned a point but I'd rather have seen City adopt a more creative approach in which to save the game. i appreciate that a point is a point but as a footballing purist I'd rather not see that "anothe club in bag" strategy approach despite the fact it paid off today. I think I get what your saying but I think its more to do with having a lack of clubs in the bag at the moment. I assume he would have brought Duric on given the opportunity but as he doesn't then the only option is to try Flint in that role. I assume you also dislike when normally bring Duric on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMidsRed Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Got a point out of what was always going to be a difficult game after Wednesday. Apart from doing a Pogba and falling down the stairs on the way out of Loftus Road, it was a good day out and I’m just on my way back to Stoke via Euston. COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, Super said: I think its a fantastic point considering the week we have had. Really thought we would lose today. Sounded a superb second half effort. Well done to the boys. And I agree, he's talking out of his arse as usual, 2nd half we were great and I thought having equalised Flint would be sent back in defence to see the game out but oh no we went looking for the win, that is confidence. Great point and a lot of good teams will lose at QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreet Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, Robbored said: Especially as Cardiff lost but although City managed a point after the tremendous win on Wednesday I was a little disappointed with LJ putting Flint up top in the second half. To me it was a "another club in the bag" strategy that we saw from GJ with Jamie McCoombe all those years ago - basic, old fashioned and crude imo. Sure Flint won the penalty which earned a point but I'd rather have seen City adopt a more creative approach in which to save the game. i appreciate that a point is a point but as a footballing purist I'd rather not see that "anothe club in bag" strategy approach despite the fact it paid off today. Flint was immense in the second half , no leg weariness post ManU and he fought like his life depended on it . Creative ? Mate we got a point and should have had 3 . Flint caused total havoc in their defence . Well done LJ innovative thinking and prepared to try a different approach . Good work and we were more than worth a point . QPR imploded second half . Great point . All round effort was tremendous and fantastic support yet again . Good days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 27 minutes ago, Robbored said: Especially as Cardiff lost but although City managed a point after the tremendous win on Wednesday I was a little disappointed with LJ putting Flint up top in the second half. To me it was a "another club in the bag" strategy that we saw from GJ with Jamie McCoombe all those years ago - basic, old fashioned and crude imo. Sure Flint won the penalty which earned a point but I'd rather have seen City adopt a more creative approach in which to save the game. i appreciate that a point is a point but as a footballing purist I'd rather not see that "anothe club in bag" strategy approach despite the fact it paid off today. Is Matt Smith a better goal scorer than Flint and yet some people on here would still be happy with us signing him as a forward ,he will be in Bristol soon when baker empties his back pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumpylegs Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 21 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Or plan C as LJ described it been working with Flint up top in training as he knew we would need the option on occasions with Milan and Fammy out You want us to play through every opposition home and away like Barcelona, with a injury ravaged squad do you Robbo ? Sill , a a bit more attention I guess #Lookatme Bit harsh Super Bob. No need for this personal stuff. This is a forum isn't it? Fair enough, you don't agree with the OP but this response seems a little OTT to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatcham red Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Pulsating second half, there was only one team trying to win it. When the home team start time wasting 25 minutes out, it shows how we took the game to them with a change of tactics. Never say die this bunch, good to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Just now, Scrumpylegs said: Bit harsh Super Bob. No need for this personal stuff. This is a forum isn't it? Fair enough, you don't agree with the OP but this response seems a little OTT to me. You obviously don't know the reputation of the OP. He is WUM and gets his rocks off on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Why does anybody bother replying (me included) ? If it's not a wind up, then it's utter tosh. Strangely enough I had a look at the classic thread on his sag trip to Wembley earlier. Comedy gold!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 28 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: We've often criticised Lee Johnson for having no Plan B. Today, Plan B secured a valuable point and very nearly all three. What do you want? A? Fair comment CA. I guess I've become accustomed to and enjoyed LJ playing decent football but today it was a 'back to League 1' football which I find basic and crude. I appreciate that that old fashioned method earned us a point today but I'm really hoping that LJ doesn't use that method too often. To me it's ugly and largely ineffective - and although it paid off today I hope it doesn't become a regular 'tactic'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Robbored said: Fair comment CA. I guess I've become accustomed to and enjoyed LJ playing decent football but today it was a 'back to League 1' football which I find basic and crude. I appreciate that that old fashioned method earned us a point today but I'm really hoping that LJ doesn't use that method too often. To me it's ugly and largely ineffective - and although it paid off today I hope it doesn't become a regular 'tactic'. You watched the game did you Robbo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: You watched the game did you Robbo ? Actually I did. I like LJ. He's an astute and clever guy but resorting to the tactic we saw today really disappointed me. Such a basic move should not have been necessary given thec resources at his disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: Actually I did. (Have to say I'm not sure I believe you ) And your assessment of how we used Flint - are you claiming it was hoofball ? And what would your alternative plan have been , out of interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Dont see the problem. LJ clearly wanted a physical presence up front and Flint was the man as we have nobody else. Who cares whether its pretty or not it changed the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Unhappy with LJ's decision that lead to us NOT losing the game? Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortia Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, Robbored said: Actually I did. I like LJ. He's an astute and clever guy but resorting to the tactic we saw today really disappointed me. Such a basic move should not have been necessary given thec resources at his disposal. Care to elaborate, mate? I don't really understand your point here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, Robbored said: Actually I did. I like LJ. He's an astute and clever guy but resorting to the tactic we saw today really disappointed me. Such a basic move should not have been necessary given thec resources at his disposal. Surely an astute and clever coach epitomises those attributes by taking the unorthodox approach of putting a centre half up front? It’s essential we had several methods of getting results. Our squad is pretty bare with injuries at the moment so sometimes we’ll have to try things like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 So despite the decision being probed to have been completely justified, you take issue with it? How bizarre. You're right, I’d much rather have had another 1% on the pass completion and come home with no points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: (Have to say I'm not sure I believe you ) And your assessment of how we used Flint - are you claiming it was hoofball ? And what would your alternative plan have been , out of interest I saw the game and City looked half the team that performed on Wednesday. Tired legs or mentally tired, who knows? Being a football purist, I'd have persisted with the 'traditional' way of breaking the opposition down but obviously LJ didn't think that was likely so adopted the option of using Flint as a striker and it worked and earned us a point. I just hoping that he doesn't feel the need to adopt the the same 'tactic' in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, Super said: Dont see the problem. LJ clearly wanted a physical presence up front and Flint was the man as we have nobody else. Who cares whether its pretty or not it changed the game. (I like) ffs, give us unlimited daily likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 16 minutes ago, Robbored said: Actually I did. I like LJ. He's an astute and clever guy but resorting to the tactic we saw today really disappointed me. Such a basic move should not have been necessary given thec resources at his disposal. Which resources? Patterson, O’Dowda, Diedhou and Djuric all missing. So which resources are you alluding to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Robbored said: I saw the game and City looked half the team that performed on Wednesday. Tired legs or mentally tired, who knows? Being a football purist, I'd have persisted with the 'traditional' way of breaking the opposition down but obviously LJ didn't think that was likely so adopted the option of using Flint as a striker and it worked and earned us a point. I just hoping that he doesn't feel the need to adopt the the same 'tactic' in the future. So it worked and earned us a point yet you hope we never use it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 I watched Kelly playing all across the back line . I don't know whether he was told to do so or if it was just a bit of inexperience. Leko, also , swapped sides frequently with Joe . Keep the opposition guessing I say . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: I saw the game and City looked half the team that performed on Wednesday. Tired legs or mentally tired, who knows? Being a football purist, I'd have persisted with the 'traditional' way of breaking the opposition down but obviously LJ didn't think that was likely so adopted the option of using Flint as a striker and it worked and earned us a point. I just hoping that he doesn't feel the need to adopt the the same 'tactic' in the future. You do realise , especially given our position sides will (increasingly) have a plan to nullify our way of playing / strengths and sometimes result in us having to change what we do ? Do You ? How do you feel about using Hordurs long throw ? You see , I see it , and I've said it , that I think it's great credit to LJ that he's not so pig headed and set in his ethos to the degree he refuses to compromise (Mr Wenger) and will adapt if necessary and when necessary to gain points , whereas you try and turn it into a negative (Don't know why I / we bother) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Which resources? Patterson, O’Dowda, Diedhou and Djuric all missing. So which resources are you alluding to? I'm willing to bet you don't get a sensible answer to this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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