Warwickshire Red Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Interesting piece on BBC Sport about Aston Villa on reduced costs but main interest is the reference to Nathan Baker to BCFC for £3.9m. Don't know if that's true and not small change but most definitely worth it IMO. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43088167 Here's the snippet: "Most of Steve Bruce's transfer business was done in the January 2017 window, when he bought Brentford striker Scott Hogan (£9m, rising to £12m), Henri Lansbury (£2.75m,) Birkir Bjarnason (undisclosed) and Barnsley pair Conor Hourihane and James Bree (joint undisclosed fee). But these were offset by the sales of Rudy Gestede (Middlesbrough, £6m) Jordan Veretout (Fiorentina, £6.3m), Ashley Westwood (Burnley, £5m), Nathan Baker (Bristol City, £3.9m), Carlos Sanchez, Fiorentina, £2.7m), Jordan Amavi (Marseille, £1.8m loan fee), Leandro Bacuna (Reading, £1.35m)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 A bargain in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 The article makes it out as though those loan deals and free signings won't cost anything. Both Terry and Samba will be on massive wages (90-100k week for the pair imo) as well as massive signing on fees (definitely in the millions) for both and the loan deals will all involve a large percentage of the players wages and large loan fees. it's hardly as though they have spent nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Best £3.9m we will ever spend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: Best £3.9m we will ever spend! Agree...And if that was offset by £Xm of future clauses of the Kodjia deal (as per speculation) that might never have been achieved, then the actual money spent will be significantly less. I’ve heard that Baker cost anything from £400k to £3.5m....and now £3.9m. I wonder whether it was in fact - gross £3.9m, minus Kodjia future fees of £3.5m cancelled and therefore £400k net. Very good player, and shows we upgraded the squad in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Agree...And if that was offset by £Xm of future clauses of the Kodjia deal (as per speculation) that might never have been achieved, then the actual money spent will be significantly less. I’ve heard that Baker cost anything from £400k to £3.5m....and now £3.9m. I wonder whether it was in fact - gross £3.9m, minus Kodjia future fees of £3.5m cancelled and therefore £400k net. Very good player, and shows we upgraded the squad in the summer. And you wonder if we would have bought him if we didn`t think Aden might be off. Worked out alright I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Agree...And if that was offset by £Xm of future clauses of the Kodjia deal (as per speculation) that might never have been achieved, then the actual money spent will be significantly less. I’ve heard that Baker cost anything from £400k to £3.5m....and now £3.9m. I wonder whether it was in fact - gross £3.9m, minus Kodjia future fees of £3.5m cancelled and therefore £400k net. Very good player, and shows we upgraded the squad in the summer. Me too , I would agree if it was £3.9m very good business. If it was £400k it's the best signing the club has EVER made ! Good when he was on loan, absolute diamond since it became permanent . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: And you wonder if we would have bought him if we didn`t think Aden might be off. Worked out alright I think! I was really impressed with him in his loan spell here, and one of the major reasons we were eventually able to move to a back 4. He helped Flint massively in that transition, despite being the "junior partner". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Most important player in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I was really impressed with him in his loan spell here, and one of the major reasons we were eventually able to move to a back 4. He helped Flint massively in that transition, despite being the "junior partner". I had doubts about him during his loan spell . He was often injured and his discipline wasn't great . I wasn't exactly overenamoured when we re-signed him but he has grown up and developed into a top player . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I had doubts about him during his loan spell . He was often injured and his discipline wasn't great . I wasn't exactly overenamoured when we re-signed him but he has grown up and developed into a top player . Exactly the same. I was almost underwhelmed when he came back- tried, tested, didn't stop the leak. How wrong I was. You could make a strong case for him being our most integral player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Top 5 CB in the league, probably top 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwickshire Red Posted February 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 He didn’t challenge too well for the second Wolves goal at home but it was a brilliant ball in and overall he’s been excellent. Great buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Without him, two totally out of form teams helped themselves to three goals against us (Leeds and Sunderland) Along with Pack, he is one of our unsung heroes and vital to the team. Flint doesn't look half the player without Baker beside him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: I was really impressed with him in his loan spell here, and one of the major reasons we were eventually able to move to a back 4. He helped Flint massively in that transition, despite being the "junior partner". Problem during the loan spell Dave, I thought he was a Red card waiting to happen. He looks far more disciplined now, top quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 26 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Problem during the loan spell Dave, I thought he was a Red card waiting to happen. He looks far more disciplined now, top quality. I think there were two or three games where he had me worried, but I do think he came with a ‘reckless’ tag, and for the most he was quite a calming figure. My gut feel was that in those games where he was ‘feeling’ his back injury (historic issues) his mind wasn’t alway completely focussed and he lacked his sharpness to time those tackles. Blackburn was definitely a red mist day!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Rumour at the time, mainly from a few Villa fans I know, was £3m. As already said, even £3.9m would be an absolute bargain. Question... if we stay in the championship this season and a premier league club came in for Baker, what’s the selling price? Would he fetch more than Flint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 9 hours ago, Major Isewater said: I had doubts about him during his loan spell . He was often injured and his discipline wasn't great . I wasn't exactly overenamoured when we re-signed him but he has grown up and developed into a top player . Nothing changed then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 9 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said: Rumour at the time, mainly from a few Villa fans I know, was £3m. As already said, even £3.9m would be an absolute bargain. Question... if we stay in the championship this season and a premier league club came in for Baker, what’s the selling price? Would he fetch more than Flint? I think he would. We would probably look at doubling (or even trebling) our money given his performances and he`s only 26 so has his best years ahead of him IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Good player. One of our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Well if you think we spent over £5.3m on Diedhiou then it’s great bit of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.V.F Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Baker is our main man defensively - simply, we are not as solid when he isn't playing. You can visually see some opposition strikers taking a look at him and shying from the challenge. He also brings the best out of his central defensive partner, whoever that may be. Baker + Flint= good, Baker + Wright = good, Flint + Wright = not so good. I suspect JB feels more comfortable with Bakes at left centre back too. One of our best and most consistent players this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 We've had their pants down really. £3.9m is nothing for one of the best centre-halves outside of the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Worth every penny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Lew-T said: Well if you think we spent over £5.3m on Diedhiou then it’s great bit of business. Why? They're hardly comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Coxy27 said: Why? They're hardly comparable. Well Fam isn’t worth half of £5.3m.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Great business. Was chatting only yesterday about potential departures in the summer, and we agreed that the one player we'd miss most, and struggle to replace, is Baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 17 hours ago, JBFC II said: The article makes it out as though those loan deals and free signings won't cost anything. Both Terry and Samba will be on massive wages (90-100k week for the pair imo) as well as massive signing on fees (definitely in the millions) for both and the loan deals will all involve a large percentage of the players wages and large loan fees. it's hardly as though they have spent nothing... Terry and Bamba will be on more than that between them. I'm sure I saw before that Terry alone is on 60-80k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Terry and Bamba will be on more than that between them. I'm sure I saw before that Terry alone is on 60-80k Can't see Samba being on any more than 30k a week surely? If so that's a massive waste of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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