cidered abroad Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 After hearing the post game interview and comments on other threads, what should be the starting eleven against the Wendys? Lets assume that Baker and Fammy are fit; then look at alternatives if as I suspect Baker may not be. There are clearly some of our squad that have been given a verbal kick up the backside. Will they keep their places or could we see some academy boys in the team? Kelly, Baldwin come to mind. Walsh and Eliasson to come in? Back to a false number 9 with Reid and Pato as the main attackers? A late sub appearance for Diedhiou instead of a start? Your ideas and comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Reid and Diedhiou or Reid and Diony. Never Diony and Diedhou ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 On the assumption we have everyone fit and available bar the long term absentees I’d go: Fielding Wright - Baker - Flint - Bryan Brownhill - Smith - Pack - Kent Reid - Fam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footie Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Fielding Wright Flint Baker/Magnússon Bryan Brownhill Smith Pack Paterson Fammy Reid Go back to a similar system that fared so well during the earlier stages of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, footie said: Fielding Wright Flint Baker/Magnússon Bryan Brownhill Smith Walsh Paterson Fammy Reid Go back to a similar system that fared so well during the earlier stages of the season, Walsh's time to shine. You’d leave Pack out..?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: On the assumption we have everyone fit and available bar the long term absentees I’d go: Fielding Wright - Baker - Flint - Bryan Brownhill - Smith - Pack - Kent Reid - Fam This, but probably Paterson ahead of Kent. I know he’s been off the boil for several games, but he’s had a rest & time to re-focus now and he was instrumental in our pre-Christmas success. Kent on the bench to replace him if he isn’t performing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footie Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: You’d leave Pack out..?! My bad, I'd forgotten he's already served his 2 game ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I would be quite interested to see Reid and Diony. I’m convinced he’s not a dud, you don’t have the season he had last year if you’re genuinely crap. I think he needs a goal badly, playing with Reid gives him the best chance of achieving that. If he gets his goal and gets going that could be crucial in the run in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Depending on injuries- let's assume Baker and Diedhiou are back fit again. Fielding Wright Flint Baker Magnússon Brownhill Smith Pack Bryan Paterson Reid I know Paterson not necessarily in-form, but form is temporary etc. IF Baker and Diedhiou injured? The same side except Mags for Baker. Or maybe even- if all fit: Fielding Wright Flint Baker Bryan Brownhill Smith Pack Paterson Reid Diedhiou I do have reservations about the 4-4-2 in general though- as a system I mean- have done for a while, but as Brownhill and Paterson can come inside, that can mitigate this. Could even have a 4-3-1-2 type thing going on with this. (Brownhill Pack Smith in a 3, with Paterson floating between the lines behind Reid and Diedhiou). Overall though, if all fit? The first team I'd go with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said: I would be quite interested to see Reid and Diony. I’m convinced he’s not a dud, you don’t have the season he had last year if you’re genuinely crap. I think he needs a goal badly, playing with Reid gives him the best chance of achieving that. If he gets his goal and gets going that could be crucial in the run in. I desperately want to believe that he’s not awful. But can we afford to give him repeated chances to prove it? I’d be very disappointed if he’s starting, assuming other options are fully fit. Off the bench to score a much needed confidence boosting winner maybe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 @Phileas Fogg I too think Diony does have ability...the problem is given how much our lead has been whittled down, I say our lead I actually mean our gap over the other key playoff chasers, we can't really afford to give him time to settle, bed in and regain confidence IMO. Which is a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: I desperately want to believe that he’s not awful. But can we afford to give him repeated chances to prove it? I’d be very disappointed if he’s starting, assuming other options are fully fit. Off the bench to score a much needed confidence boosting winner maybe! 7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: @Phileas Fogg I too think Diony does have ability...the problem is given how much our lead has been whittled down, I say our lead I actually mean our gap over the other key playoff chasers, we can't really afford to give him time to settle, bed in and regain confidence IMO. Which is a shame. Yeah I agree with you, in the circumstances was a strange signing to make in January. Perhaps better to sign someone like him in June. I reckon we tried for the likes of Grabban maybe even Afobe and ended up with him further down the list. I haven’t been keeping up with news really but isn’t Diedhiou an injury worry? If so I’d probably go with Diony and Reid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Yeah I agree with you, in the circumstances was a strange signing to make in January. Perhaps better to sign someone like him in June. I reckon we tried for the likes of Grabban maybe even Afobe and ended up with him further down the list. I haven’t been keeping up with news really but isn’t Diedhiou an injury worry? If so I’d probably go with Diony and Reid. Yes I imagine Diony was far from our first target. Yet all we will hear on here is ‘should have signed XYZ’, like the thought had never occurred to any of the people involved in player recruitment! Mad how quickly people think we will be competing with well established Champ clubs with twice the budget we have. I think (hope) Diony will be a different player once he bags a goal, but on what I’ve seen so far that could be some time. I don’t like to make snap judgements on players but he looks like a man completely lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterStyvarsRightFoot Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 A team I can trust personally would have to be frankie fielding bailey wright -Aden Flint - Nathan baker ( magners if unfit ) Josh brownhill Joe Bryan Gary O Neil korey smith Marlon pack bobby Reid famara diedhiou 3-3-2-1-1 (Wide second 3) o Neil central defensive mid brownhill and Joey acting as inter changing wingbacks / pocket lined defensive units marlon and Korey in the middle Bobby playing just off of FAMARA, the fact GON would be in the team would give Marlon some freedom to kick on and let Bobby become a striker when attacking As silly as it sound Sheffield Wednesday have players like Bannon, reach , Joao they like to play central so if you can overload the middle and play into the channels you can create space for yourself. i fully expect a basic 4-4-2 however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Actually thinking about it Gary O’Neil could be a very important returning player. Like a footballing version of Gandalf the White he comes back to aid the hobbits (Bobby Reid and ‘Little’ Lee Johnson) in their quest for promotion against the dark lord Warnock. (Holloway represents Gollum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Grovesy Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 45 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Fielding Wright Flint Baker Magnússon Brownhill Smith Pack Bryan Paterson Reid Like it. That's the team I would pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said: Actually thinking about it Gary O’Neil could be a very important returning player. I've said this before on here, a bit of experience is exactly what we've been missing recently. Think he could be a very valuable asset to have for the last half hour/20 mins to help close games out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I feel like Diony may be getting a raw deal. I mentioned this elsewhere but if you look at the highlights of him pre City and in particular listen to the interview with a French football expert that OSIB had he is not the player his physique suggests. The expert laid out very clearly that he is not a target man - not someone to lump the ball up too. He is someone who likes to get in behind and is quick. The one start he had we seemed to drop down to Cardiff's style of play and just wack it up to him. I'm not an expert on his game but form those few sources I would suggest that when he plays we need to get the ball in behind - Pack being back would help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: Agree. Diony has looked bad against Sunderland and Cardiff. In both games he had no one linking the play behind him. Well, he had Diedhiou, but he can't do that role. I thought he looked decent against Fulham when he came on, and very good on his debut against QPR. Certainly not going to say he is a bad player from what I have seen. Good observations, QPR he replaced Diedhiou, so maybe they aren’t a good pair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: Agree. Diony has looked bad against Sunderland and Cardiff. In both games he had no one linking the play behind him. Well, he had Diedhiou, but he can't do that role. I thought he looked decent against Fulham when he came on, and very good on his debut against QPR. Certainly not going to say he is a bad player from what I have seen. To be far he got in good positions against Sunderland. I actually think that he could be incredible. However he is so short on confidence and in a new league, country etc. All he needs is a few to bobble in and I reckon he could motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: Agree. Diony has looked bad against Sunderland and Cardiff. In both games he had no one linking the play behind him. Well, he had Diedhiou, but he can't do that role. I thought he looked decent against Fulham when he came on, and very good on his debut against QPR. Certainly not going to say he is a bad player from what I have seen. I think calling him "very good" against QPR is being generous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 7 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: I would be quite interested to see Reid and Diony. I’m convinced he’s not a dud, you don’t have the season he had last year if you’re genuinely crap. I think he needs a goal badly, playing with Reid gives him the best chance of achieving that. If he gets his goal and gets going that could be crucial in the run in. The sentiment is fine, actions must speak louder than words. He has had cameo parts, half games, and started games, and to date not that promising. Simply must step up a gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cidre Monita Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Talking about trusting players and threatening them that they will be gone next season if they don't play in a certain way. Are we back to this again , really, after the excellent first 20 games performances ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 A team ‘to trust’ ??!!! Surely if we can’t trust players who are in our first team squad then they shouldn’t be employed by us?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 35 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: A team ‘to trust’ ??!!! Surely if we can’t trust players who are in our first team squad then they shouldn’t be employed by us?! LJ’s own words last season....several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: LJ’s own words last season....several times. It's baffling. LJ really must second-guess himself the minute things start to wobble. Pick the players who won you games earlier in the year. Mags at LB, JB at LM Fam, Pineapplehead in the last 20 if losing Walsh, Woodrow in last 20 to head to the oppo corner flag if winning. And stay there. With the ball, obviously. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: LJ’s own words last season....several times. I know, I was making the point again this season...why are players even at our club if the manager can’t ‘trust’ them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 Whatever the composition of the team, Wednesday on Saturday is a "must win" game. Confidence is low and would be rock bottom if we were to lose. Earlier in the season we went out expecting to win, whereas now we seem to go out expecting NOT to win. The side put out against Cardiff was a case in point. We did not expect to win, so were set up to try and nullify Cardiff. Consequently we were out "managered". We seem to be in complete awe of Warnock. We should have simply played the way we play best, not play into his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 I honestly don’t know what team I’d pick myself if I had to, let alone what LJ will do, but would just offer two thoughts. One, I’ll be very surprised if Pack doesn’t start, and two, don’t rule out an unexpected return for O’Neill. LJ may feel the time has come to trust an old head, either from the off or from the bench, and the fact that GON completed a full 90 mins in the U-23 side the other day may be a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 I really like the idea of the 'false 9', so I'd be tempted to go with: Fielding Wright Flint Baker Magnussen Smith Pack Bryan Brownhill Reid Paterson With Brownhill and Paterson out wide but prepared to come inside, and Bobby dropping back into midfield when necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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