Harry Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: What happened H? Or is it pretty obvious? I saw loads of police on Ashton Road and didn’t see any trouble, anyone starting anything in front of that police presence must be a bit deranged?! Same as a number of other incidents. Mouthing off, got told to shut up, mouthed off some more so got a smack. Old bill were right by it and wrapped them up straight away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Harry said: Same as a number of other incidents. Mouthing off, got told to shut up, mouthed off some more so got a smack. Old bill were right by it and wrapped them up straight away. Cheers for the reply mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 Always liked Wednesday, for the reasons already mentioned. Tbh I don't mind the other lot either, although their manager is a proper knobhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I know we sing the song to wind up other teams’ fans - but today I totally disagreed with “Just like Bristol, your City is red” - not for me, Sheffield means ‘Wednesday’ I thought the same today. Whichever way you look at it, Sheffield is patently not red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Always liked Wednesday, for the reasons already mentioned. Tbh I don't mind the other lot either, although their manager is a proper knobhead. To be fair, fans of both Sheffield clubs are pretty loyal and turn out in impressive numbers - our two club City can’t live with their attendances etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: To be fair, fans of both Sheffield clubs are pretty loyal and turn out in impressive numbers - our two club City can’t live with their attendances etc... No, we can't but not without good reason: Sheffield: 126 seasons of top class football, and 5 times Champions of England. Bristol: 9 seasons of top class football, and never once Champions of England. Sheffield: 21 seasons of Div 3/Div 4 football. Bristol: 116 seasons of lower league stuff. Sheffield: 7 times FA Cup winners. Bristol: Paint Pot Trophy winners. Sheffield: actually won the League cup once. Bristol: three League cup semi-finals. I wonder how Sheffield would "live" with our track-record of mediocrity. When Wednesday had a prolonged stay in Div 3 in the 1970s, their average dipped as low as 10k. *Rovers have done **** all to help with this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: No idea! Whatever it was, in as surprised at the number of high-viz required to deal with it. They were probably cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 21 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said: No, we can't but not without good reason: Sheffield: 126 seasons of top class football, and 5 times Champions of England. Bristol: 9 seasons of top class football, and never once Champions of England. Sheffield: 21 seasons of Div 3/Div 4 football. Bristol: 116 seasons of lower league stuff. Sheffield: 7 times FA Cup winners. Bristol: Paint Pot Trophy winners. Sheffield: actually won the League cup once. Bristol: three League cup semi-finals. I wonder how Sheffield would "live" with our track-record of mediocrity. When Wednesday had a prolonged stay in Div 3 in the 1970s, their average dipped as low as 10k. *Rovers have done **** all to help with this! Thanks for the stats...ok, to reply... - no Sheffield club has been Champions of England since 1930 so not many current fans of either club would have been influenced by that - no Sheffield club has won the FA Cup since 1935 so not many current fans of either club would have been influenced by that - Sheff Utd - one season in the top tier in the last 24 years - Sheff Weds - zero seasons in the top tier in the last 18 years - just one major honour won by a Sheffield club in the last 17 years (league cup) ...I think all that means their modern day support for both clubs is pretty awesome and makes ours (Bristol’s clubs) look pretty paltry... - and when Wednesday were in the third tier during the seventies their average crowd at home was 13,000, reaching over 18,000 during one season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said: No, we can't but not without good reason: Sheffield: 126 seasons of top class football, and 5 times Champions of England. Bristol: 9 seasons of top class football, and never once Champions of England. Sheffield: 21 seasons of Div 3/Div 4 football. Bristol: 116 seasons of lower league stuff. Sheffield: 7 times FA Cup winners. Bristol: Paint Pot Trophy winners. Sheffield: actually won the League cup once. Bristol: three League cup semi-finals. I wonder how Sheffield would "live" with our track-record of mediocrity. When Wednesday had a prolonged stay in Div 3 in the 1970s, their average dipped as low as 10k. *Rovers have done **** all to help with this! Plus the fact there is about a quarter of a million more people living in Sheffield which might be a reason for them having bigger crowds!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Thanks for the stats...ok, to reply... - no Sheffield club has been Champions of England since 1930 so not many current fans of either club would have been influenced by that - no Sheffield club has won the FA Cup since 1935 so not many current fans of either club would have been influenced by that - Sheff Utd - one season in the top tier in the last 24 years - Sheff Weds - zero seasons in the top tier in the last 18 years - just one major honour won by a Sheffield club in the last 17 years (league cup) ...I think all that means their modern day support for both clubs is pretty awesome and makes ours (Bristol’s clubs) look pretty paltry... Fair play, you've just managed to supply a load of stats that back up @Jack Dawe points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Visiting Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 Kind words, I've ran out of 'likes' today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Owl Visiting said: Kind words, I've ran out of 'likes' today! Deserved mate. Always had a soft spot for Wednesday and today cements it. Great club. Don’t think there’s many teams who would’ve had that many fans left at FT at 4-0 in -2 temperatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, petehinton said: Deserved mate. Always had a soft spot for Wednesday and today cements it. Great club. Don’t think there’s many teams who would’ve had that many fans left at FT at 4-0 in -2 temperatures. I would of been gone at h/t after that truly woeful first half display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dihajh Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 Am I right I’m thinking that near the end of the match they cheered when fielding took a goal kick and it didn’t go out for a throw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 26 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Fair play, you've just managed to supply a load of stats that back up @Jack Dawe points. Rubbish, a smaller City than ours (population wise) with two clubs who’ve won pretty much nothing since 1935... Their attendances (both clubs) are way above the two Bristol clubs (home and away)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 I thought the Wednesday fans were superb. They provided fantastic vocal support to a spineless team that don't deserve them. That was the Owl's worst performance I've ever witnessed at Ashton Gate. They should refund their fans travel expenses. Except that humongous, topless, bald guy. He'd only spend the compo on pies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 52 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Thanks for the stats...ok, to reply... - no Sheffield club has been Champions of England since 1930 so not many current fans of either club would have been influenced by that - no Sheffield club has won the FA Cup since 1935 so not many current fans of either club would have been influenced by that - Sheff Utd - one season in the top tier in the last 24 years - Sheff Weds - zero seasons in the top tier in the last 18 years - just one major honour won by a Sheffield club in the last 17 years (league cup) ...I think all that means their modern day support for both clubs is pretty awesome and makes ours (Bristol’s clubs) look pretty paltry... - and when Wednesday were in the third tier during the seventies their average crowd at home was 13,000, reaching over 18,000 during one season... The men of Sheffield that witnessed their team sweep all before them in the 1930s, had a tale to tell their sons in the 1940s and 50s. Of glory and triumph. And history being made. The sons kept the faith and told their sons proud tales of the team from Sheffield "that your grandfather" watched, and - with regular top two division football to watch - they kept going, hoping to see this great history repeated. Meanwhile, in Bristol, what did our grandfathers have to talk about? Bobbing up and down between Div 3 and Div 2. Mediocrity. My grandfathers - neither followed football. Nor my father. No surprise there. It's called "tradition." In Sheffield, they have a "tradition," a great tradition and history. In Sheffield they have a "tradition" of going to football in numbers forged way back to a time when they enjoyed tremendous success. History is massively important in football (witness Liverpool jibes to Chelsea fans; everyone to MK dons). We have a "tradition" but a mediocre one in comparison, with a mediocre support (in comparison) as a result. That it happened so long ago is irrelevant. Why do you think Newcastle, Sunderland, Pompey, Southampton, Ipswich and Norwich are better supported than us? And why do you think our support/numbers are better than Rovers'? Name a club with a poorer "tradition" or record, and a better support? Without a dad to tell me about "the glory days" my "tradition" began going with my older brother in the late 70s. I've been dreaming ever since of seeing this little club of ours back at the top, where I first saw them. That's what keeps me going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Harry said: A few nobends outside who swiftly got dealt with! Why do teams think they can walk down Ashton Road singing and taking the pis? About 6 times this season now - they all soon learn though Ha,Harry............reminds me of a few years ago about ten of them singing and taking the piss out of young 'uns and old ladies when they spotted a mob of about half a dozen lads who could be considered the slightest bit hard on the corner of Ashton/Duckmoor Rd. They immediately shut up and muttered "keep it tight lads" ! Me and Son Of Nob just ripped the piss out of them mercilessly........."Where's all the mouth lads, sing up Wendy " M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Harry said: I never said I did it. That’s alright then. Incredible that a handful of morons still think that violence has any place at a football game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Rubbish, a smaller City than ours (population wise) with two clubs who’ve won pretty much nothing since 1935... Their attendances (both clubs) are way above the two Bristol clubs (home and away)... Pop of Sheffield: 575,000. Metropolitan area: 1.5m. Pop of Bristol: 454,000. Metro area: 1.02m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willem ii Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 3 hours ago, tommy32 said: Fair play for the amount they managed to bring down. Noticed a few clapping off Bobby when he went off including Tango man who was getting plenty of stick from the Dutch. Was chatting to a few Owls who came up from Lands End! You mean this vid?: no real harm meant with btw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54-46 Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, dihajh said: Am I right I’m thinking that near the end of the match h they cheered when fielding took a goal kick and it didn’t go out for a throw? Do that myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Kodjias Wrist said: Great fans I remember first season back in championship and they were chanting who are ya! to the empty construction site. seem to remember them singing "you're not singing anymore" at the empty stand also, hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said: The men of Sheffield that witnessed their team sweep all before them in the 1930s, had a tale to tell their sons in the 1940s and 50s. Of glory and triumph. And history being made. The sons kept the faith and told their sons proud tales of the team from Sheffield "that your grandfather" watched, and - with regular top two division football to watch - they kept going, hoping to see this great history repeated. Meanwhile, in Bristol, what did our grandfathers have to talk about? Bobbing up and down between Div 3 and Div 2. Mediocrity. My grandfathers - neither followed football. Nor my father. No surprise there. It's called "tradition." In Sheffield, they have a "tradition," a great tradition and history. In Sheffield they have a "tradition" of going to football in numbers forged way back to a time when they enjoyed tremendous success. History is massively important in football (witness Liverpool jibes to Chelsea fans; everyone to MK dons). We have a "tradition" but a mediocre one in comparison, with a mediocre support (in comparison) as a result. That it happened so long ago is irrelevant. Why do you think Newcastle, Sunderland, Pompey, Southampton, Ipswich and Norwich are better supported than us? And why do you think our support/numbers are better than Rovers'? Name a club with a poorer "tradition" or record, and a better support? Without a dad to tell me about "the glory days" my "tradition" began going with my older brother in the late 70s. I've been dreaming ever since of seeing this little club of ours back at the top, where I first saw them. That's what keeps me going. Ipswich are better supported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 @Kid in the Riot do you condone violence towards fellow football fans then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 55 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: - and when Wednesday were in the third tier during the seventies their average crowd at home was 13,000, reaching over 18,000 during one season... 18k when they were promoted. 10k after four seasons of Div 3 rubbish, no sign of a return to the Second Div and finishing 14th. If they'd had 14 seasons of iDiv 3 what would it be reasonable to think their support or fan interest might've been: on the wax, or the wane? But they are loyal and do get behind a winning team, no doubt about it. And their away support is superb. But as I have said, you tend to see this with the clubs with a more successful "tradition" than us. 1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said: - just one major honour won by a Sheffield club in the last 17 years (league cup) "just the one".....as KITR said, enough said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said: @Kid in the Riot do you condone violence towards fellow football fans then? I wouldn’t put it down to ‘football’. In most situations where a few idiots are being bullies others will come along and put them in their place. Fact is, it doesn’t happen if bullies don’t attempt bullying. In all of the incidents I’ve seen this season along that same stretch of road, the away fans have been trying to bully home fans and have soon received their just desserts. Basic rule of thumb is, don’t be a nob and you won’t get hurt. I think the kids call it something else these days - chat shit get banged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Harry said: I wouldn’t put it down to ‘football’. In most situations where a few idiots are being bullies others will come along and put them in their place. Fact is, it doesn’t happen if bullies don’t attempt bullying. In all of the incidents I’ve seen this season along that same stretch of road, the away fans have been trying to bully home fans and have soon received their just desserts. Basic rule of thumb is, don’t be a nob and you won’t get hurt. I think the kids call it something else these days - chat shit get banged. Anyone who goes looking for trouble and who finds it has no sympathy from me. But I still find pretty sad to see people revelling in violence. Thought we were by and large past all that crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, harrys said: Ipswich are better supported? Yes. Not currently, but let's see how many we get after 14 successive seasons in this league and slipping down the table. And Mick McCarthy. And check their away support, very decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said: Anyone who goes looking for trouble and who finds it has no sympathy from me. But I still find pretty sad to see people revelling in violence. Thought we were by and large past all that crap. Your first sentence is where it’s at. No need for the second sentence. No sympathy for those who look for it. That’s exactly what happened here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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