Mr Popodopolous Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: They clearly have a preferred customer though - probably more a typical rugby demographic if anything. People that will pay a premium, eat and drink in the ground, won’t cause any bother and will buy plenty of merchandise. Yeah, wouldn't disagree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbeast Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 We may have tickets at the lower end of the spectrum but due to these prices we are regularly getting crowd's of 20k. But how sharply will this number fall. We are having an excellent season, but we all know how we can go into melt down. A lot of these price rises are directed at those who are more likely to struggle to find the money for these large price rises. I am disabled and my ST has gone up by £168. I am lucky I should be able to either stretch to the increase or I could go for a cheaper seat. There are others both disabled and families who could be priced out of a season ticket, so in my case, for example the club would be losing £331 not gaining £168. Now factor in spending £10+ over 23 games, that would take the loss to £561. This is based on my carer and myself, someone with a couple of kids who doesn't renew will cost the club even more. This won't matter if we should go up but if we stay down and suffer a poor start to the season we could find the club regretting their strategy as it bites them on the butt. I'm not saying the price should stay the same, quite the opposite, I'd accept a rise of £50 happily, but an increase of 50% does strike me as excessive. Yes Steve Lansdown has bankrolled us and we should strive to break even, but pricing people out especially families with young kids could hurt the club in the long term. I'd like to think the club would reconsider but won't put money on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: They clearly have a preferred customer though - probably more a typical rugby demographic if anything. People that will pay a premium, eat and drink in the ground, won’t cause any bother and will buy plenty of merchandise. This is the crux of the matter imv. It's about making as much money as is humanly possible, and by appealing to the more traditionally middle class rugby man, who drinks a lot and buys food in the ground, they stand a better chance of turning BCFC in to a nice creamy cash cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: They clearly have a preferred customer though - probably more a typical rugby demographic if anything. People that will pay a premium, eat and drink in the ground, won’t cause any bother and will buy plenty of merchandise. In a nutshell, I think. The hefty £68 rise in central Dolman prices for non pensioners is presumably designed to make the better off pay more and move those who cannot away to the cheap seats. Pretty crap in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, GrahamC said: In a nutshell, I think. The hefty £68 rise in central Dolman prices for non pensioners is presumably designed to make the better off pay more and move those who cannot away to the cheap seats. Pretty crap in my view. yes agree mate its not just season ticket its food drinks bus fares these people need to get real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC&T Board Members Blagdon red Posted March 8, 2018 SC&T Board Members Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Now picked up by The Post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: This is the crux of the matter imv. It's about making as much money as is humanly possible, and by appealing to the more traditionally middle class rugby man, who drinks a lot and buys food in the ground, they stand a better chance of turning BCFC in to a nice creamy cash cow. 8 minutes ago, GrahamC said: In a nutshell, I think. The hefty £68 rise in central Dolman prices for non pensioners is presumably designed to make the better off pay more and move those who cannot away to the cheap seats. Pretty crap in my view. I think if they could get away with it, they’d happily put corporate boxes in all the central ‘premium’ areas of the ground and replace the seats. The club are under a lot of pressure to make non-match day income and sadly this seems to have bled into sections of this years terrible pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Has anyone heard from the FSF again recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Drew Peacock said: Anyone? This wasn't really picked up on very much, and to be fair a lot of other groups have been hit harder and more unfairly. Someone suggested phasing the increase over two years, but got no response from the those representing the club. I think we have been "benchmarked", and probably should be grateful for it as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolNorthEndRed Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 I sit in the Dolman centre block, and I think the £68 rise to £499 is bloody shocking. The seats aren’t luxurious, we are sat in seats that are too close together with very little leg room. making it almost impossible to sit correctly and comfortably in the seat especially when wearing winter coats. I’m not at all happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 After 19 years sitting in block E30/ block E sitting with my grandad, dad and brother and cousins I'm moving to W2( was meant to be W3). Bcfc are ripping up family tradition. My seat gone up by £68 and kids gone up to £99 each. An extra £168 to find is not acceptable so bcfc got your wish and forced me to sit in the family enclosure in W2. Means my dad had to move with me as well, something he didn't want to do as he loves dolman central but he wants to be with me and grand kids. My dad is retired and not short of s few Bob and did offer me the money but I'm a 34 year old man with two kids and want to pay my own bills. The choice of paying £699 or £445 is a no brainer. If club didn't change prices I would have stayed in dolman central. It's more upset me than made me angry. It's unjustified and after lengthy email exchanges I've been told it's not changing. This is a publicly nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said: They clearly have a preferred customer though - probably more a typical rugby demographic if anything. People that will pay a premium, eat and drink in the ground, won’t cause any bother and will buy plenty of merchandise. Funnily enough, whilst at the rugby you can drink during the match, a lot of the traditional Bris fans are not big fans of drinking in the ground before/after and prefer the local hostelries. There's not a "rugby club" feel to it - they still see it as the City Ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Funnily enough, whilst at the rugby you can drink during the match, a lot of the traditional Bris fans are not big fans of drinking in the ground before/after and prefer the local hostelries. There's not a "rugby club" feel to it - they still see it as the City Ground. I’m not surprised by that - the ‘clubhouse’ area in the Williams looks pretty bad, especially when compared to the concourse areas in the South Stand and Dolman which are quite nicely decorated now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 49 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said: This wasn't really picked up on very much, and to be fair a lot of other groups have been hit harder and more unfairly. Someone suggested phasing the increase over two years, but got no response from the those representing the club. I think we have been "benchmarked", and probably should be grateful for it as well! It is probably the largest single group though as it affects every single OAP. It's a shame it wasn't picked up on, as I think legally we would have a chance of forcing a change. I don't know what the view of any lawyer forum members would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 If nobody renews then the club will have to do something about it. Stand firm people. Don’t renew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 41 minutes ago, BristolNorthEndRed said: I sit in the Dolman centre block, and I think the £68 rise to £499 is bloody shocking. The seats aren’t luxurious, we are sat in seats that are too close together with very little leg room. making it almost impossible to sit correctly and comfortably in the seat especially when wearing winter coats. I’m not at all happy. Actually that is a really good point. There is **** all legroom in the central block of the Dolman I sit in, yet they now want to sting me for an extra £68 for the privilege. As someone of average height & build, I have no idea how anyone significantly taller or larger fits in to these seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 minute ago, GrahamC said: Actually that is a really good point. There is **** all legroom in the central block of the Dolman I sit in, yet they now want to sting me for an extra £68 for the privilege. As someone of average height & build, I have no idea how anyone significantly taller or larger fits in to these seats. Exactly - it’s a stand from decades ago that’s been refitted a few times. This hasn’t changed the legroom or conditions really, the skeleton of the stand is the same. Outrageous price hike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06stanleyj Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 I sit in block E28 of the Dolman where I've had a season ticket for the last 5 years with my lad who's now 16 & still in full time education. My ticket has gone up by £16 but my lads has gone from £99 to £150, now £51 may not be a lot of money to some people but to me that is a price increase on his ticket alone of over 50% which I think is disgusting, if everyone who sells a product suddenly increased their prices by 50% it would cripple the economy. It's not the amount of money that grates me the most, it's the massive % rise which really winds me up, my wages have not gone up by 50% in the last 10 years even if you add them all together !!! I have now got to break it to my lad that I'm seriously considering not renewing our tickets on principle alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 I really think everyone should hold off renewing, I don't think there's much to lose at the moment, in the past the prices were "Early Bird" and it was clearly stated they would go up - this time there's none of that. BS know they can't increase any more and will try and get everyone to renew at these prices. The threat now is "lose your seat" - but with nearly 15000 current S/T holders are there many out there waiting to buy for the first time and grab your seat? Seat movers? Isn't the overriding message coming out of the fanbase that most like where they sit and don't want to move? Sure a few may want to move seats - but I doubt it's that many. As for new S/T buyers - if they weren't tempted by last season's prices they surely won't be won over this time! Bristol Sport clearly don't want to reconsider, the only thing that might make a difference is lack of sales. Five months before the season starts - time IS on our side. One things for sure, if we all cave in and renew by the deadline then we send a message to Bristol Sport that they can do what they like in future and we'll just suck it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 What I think is wrong the club asking us to buy a season tick now before the season ends also my boy is 11 now they won't let me buy an under 12 ticket for 50.00 because he will be 12 in April Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, GrahamC said: As someone of average height & build, I have no idea how anyone significantly taller or larger fits in to these seats. As a fairly tall bloke who is carrying a bit of excess, the answer to your question is 'badly'. My Dolman central seat affords me a good view of the game, but it is far from being a couple of hours comfort and pleasure. The more I think about it, the more I question if I actually enjoy going of if I am just in the habit of going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, Harry said: If nobody renews then the club will have to do something about it. Stand firm people. Don’t renew. This - 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said: They clearly have a preferred customer though - probably more a typical rugby demographic if anything. People that will pay a premium, eat and drink in the ground, won’t cause any bother and will buy plenty of merchandise. Yeah well they might end up with 7,000 in the ground like on rugby days then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tts_city Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, 06stanleyj said: I sit in block E28 of the Dolman where I've had a season ticket for the last 5 years with my lad who's now 16 & still in full time education. My ticket has gone up by £16 but my lads has gone from £99 to £150, now £51 may not be a lot of money to some people but to me that is a price increase on his ticket alone of over 50% which I think is disgusting, if everyone who sells a product suddenly increased their prices by 50% it would cripple the economy. It's not the amount of money that grates me the most, it's the massive % rise which really winds me up, my wages have not gone up by 50% in the last 10 years even if you add them all together !!! I have now got to break it to my lad that I'm seriously considering not renewing our tickets on principle alone. Im with you atm, putting up my sons ticket by 200% is way beyond extracting the urine, no other business would dream of such a rise, i can just about afford it but its the principle of being blatantly done over by the suits at bcfc, i bet the **** who thought it up will get a bonus if we all swallow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 48 minutes ago, Spoons said: After 19 years sitting in block E30/ block E sitting with my grandad, dad and brother and cousins I'm moving to W2( was meant to be W3). Bcfc are ripping up family tradition. My seat gone up by £68 and kids gone up to £99 each. An extra £168 to find is not acceptable so bcfc got your wish and forced me to sit in the family enclosure in W2. Means my dad had to move with me as well, something he didn't want to do as he loves dolman central but he wants to be with me and grand kids. My dad is retired and not short of s few Bob and did offer me the money but I'm a 34 year old man with two kids and want to pay my own bills. The choice of paying £699 or £445 is a no brainer. If club didn't change prices I would have stayed in dolman central. It's more upset me than made me angry. It's unjustified and after lengthy email exchanges I've been told it's not changing. This is a publicly nightmare. I'm disgusted for you and your old man. The club are literally ripping up people's individual atmospheres at AG. Best part of 20 years means I'm sure you're familiar with the faces around you, perhaps even made friends and acquaintances. They might be able to stay in the Dolman but are making you move. What about people with autism or mental health conditions? Not just are they having to pay full whack now (when most disabled people struggle to pay all their bills and care) but they may also be forced to move. I don't know how much Gareth Torpy (Disability Liaison Officer) knows about the autistic spectrum but let me tell you all, if there are adults or children with autism being forced to move, this will severely damage their routines. Something specialists will say try to avoid. Its the same process with someone with a long term mental health condition. And they want to rabble on about inclusion and equality. Seems to me, they are taking the absolute piss out of physically disabled, ambulant disabled, kids, OAPs and those with a low income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 33 minutes ago, Harry said: If nobody renews then the club will have to do something about it. Stand firm people. Don’t renew. Couldnt agree more Harry. I dont have a season ticket this year (have done the previous 15) due to other commitments. I was going to purchase one for next season but I have firmly decided against it now, its a shame but the way the families and disabled people are being treated is a disgrace, and I will not hand over another penny to the club until they change there ways (Im not holding my breath but feel we need to take a stand). The more people doing this, the better. Nothing gets boards of directors moving quicker than empty seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 21 minutes ago, Septic Peg said: I'm disgusted for you and your old man. The club are literally ripping up people's individual atmospheres at AG. Best part of 20 years means I'm sure you're familiar with the faces around you, perhaps even made friends and acquaintances. They might be able to stay in the Dolman but are making you move. What about people with autism or mental health conditions? Not just are they having to pay full whack now (when most disabled people struggle to pay all their bills and care) but they may also be forced to move. I don't know how much Gareth Torpy (Disability Liaison Officer) knows about the autistic spectrum but let me tell you all, if there are adults or children with autism being forced to move, this will severely damage their routines. Something specialists will say try to avoid. Its the same process with someone with a long term mental health condition. And they want to rabble on about inclusion and equality. Seems to me, they are taking the absolute piss out of physically disabled, ambulant disabled, kids, OAPs and those with a low income. Like most places isn't it, unfortunately? Take where I work in the Day job for example...classed or at first stage of 'Disability Confident'. All well and good...but someone who we subsequently found had workplace anxiety, well I think they totally failed him personally. It's all just words, isn't it in a lot of cases? Certain individuals here, went down in my estimation. Various red flags that I thought I saw or thought were possibly of concern, should definitely have been spotted by managers older and more experienced than me- and especially with the 'Disability Confident' tag! No I can't or won't name or shame, not least because I work at the company I am talking about in my main job. To also make clear, I'm not accusing Bristol Sport of this, but it's platitudes that make a company look better, look better for business in a lot of cases- I think. Either uncaring or total ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said: I’m not surprised by that - the ‘clubhouse’ area in the Williams looks pretty bad, especially when compared to the concourse areas in the South Stand and Dolman which are quite nicely decorated now. But the concourse is not a user friendly place to spend a couple of hours there after a match whether rugby or football. Cold and windy if a door is left open and no tables and seats thanks to Sag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 17 hours ago, Robin TBW said: I don't get what all the uproar is about honestly... Is it really that bad? I know it's more expensive than the German league but most places in England are. That's just how it is here. During the promotion year, the ticket price for an ambulant disabled and carer in the Williams was £160, just left of the directors box/half way line. The following season the same ticket but for the South Stand end of ground, due to redevelopments was, £260. Last season, we moved back to the Lansdown stand (wing) the cost had risen to £360. This season remained the same price but in a slightly worse position as we couldn't purchase early enough to save the seats, adjacent to SS. So now we come to next season and the cost of £390, basically in the corner of the ground. The cost has risen from £160 to £390 in the space of four years. If we could return to the original seating area, it would have cost £469. An increase of £309 from when we had to leave that area. I'd like to add that the facilities now are far superior than the old Williams stand but, are those increases justified by the improved facilities? After all, we had seats, a good view, toilets near by, refreshments nearby and a roof over our head. I do think the original ticket pricing was too low, but this borders on extortion. And, tongue firmly in cheek, we're still watching Frankie Fielding, Aden Flint, Joe Bryan, Korey Smith, Marlon Pack and Bobby Reid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 @MattParsonsBCFCSLO Are you reading all this? Are you proposing any sort of liasing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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