Die Hard Red Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 Article by David Goldblatt: The Beautiful Game is Turning Ugly Worth a read if only for the hilarious line about ‘Jordanian carpet baggers’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Die Hard Red said: Article by David Goldblatt: The Beautiful Game is Turning Ugly Worth a read if only for the hilarious line about ‘Jordanian carpet baggers’. I would wager the words 'reliably disappointing' are a far finer disruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 Concur wholeheartedly with David Goldblatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 Fantastically depressing article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 I guess every foreign owner could be termed a "carpetbagger" On the article in general,yes the football world in general is depressing and predictable. Money rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 Know Goldblatt personally, brilliant journalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 Depressing reading but reality. Money rules the whole world, our football to. In the end the answer of it is katastrof. In football there is only a few teams in every leauge around the world that can win the leauge. England, Germany only BM, France PSG, Spain and so on. In small Sweden is Malmö FF the club with most money and they will win again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Die Hard Red said: Article by David Goldblatt: The Beautiful Game is Turning Ugly Worth a read if only for the hilarious line about ‘Jordanian carpet baggers’. "Carpetbaggers" is an entirely accurate description of the Gas owners. Put next to nothing into the club but take all the benefits. Their club doesn't have 2 pennies to rub together for the team, despite selling their best players in January on each of the last 2 seasons for £300-600k. When did they last pay a transfer fee for a league player? Not since the fake sheikh has been in place. His best business was being a Chelsea supporter and getting them a couple of loanees last season. So yes money in football is a problem but in Horfield the questions should be "where is it?" or "where has it gone?" No new stadium, no evidence of any work on their new "training ground", it's only the fact that Dopey Darrell appears to be a half decent manager that keeps them going. Much like Mick McCarthy at Ipswich, it's possibly only the manager that is keeping the show on the road at that level. Replace him & they could quickly tumble back down to where they were so recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 Every time I think of the premiership and the dominance of the rich few I remember Leicester and think there is hope. You can't suck the money back out of the game so we are left with what we have. It can only be a matter of time before the top teams in Europe break away to form a super league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 That Leicester season was a glorious aberration! Chelsea finished 10th, Liverpool 8th- terrific! This season, albeit perhaps not quite as much as last- the top 6 are incredibly dominant- with Arsenal's collapse (by their standards) you could argue top 5, then Arsenal and then the rest. Of course there is still hope, because there is always hope, but there is definitely less than there was. People who think the PL is still truly competitive or open...are watching too much Sky. The top 4 sides have lost a whopping 4 games vs the teams ranked 7th-20th. Out of 88 this season- which tells a story! If we include Chelsea's weirdly vulnerable season, it's 9 out of 110. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 13 hours ago, Midlands Robin said: It can only be a matter of time before the top teams in Europe break away to form a super league. Being saying the same for a long time. What is now the Champions League will become the Super League and then English football can return to some form of normality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, BigTone said: Being saying the same for a long time. What is now the Champions League will become the Super League and then English football can return to some form of normality. Id love to see it then the "elite" can **** off never to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, Loon plage said: Id love to see it then the "elite" can **** off never to return. They can take the FA with them mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 19/03/2018 at 07:28, Dr Balls said: "Carpetbaggers" is an entirely accurate description of the Gas owners. Put next to nothing into the club but take all the benefits. Their club doesn't have 2 pennies to rub together for the team, despite selling their best players in January on each of the last 2 seasons for £300-600k. When did they last pay a transfer fee for a league player? Not since the fake sheikh has been in place. His best business was being a Chelsea supporter and getting them a couple of loanees last season. So yes money in football is a problem but in Horfield the questions should be "where is it?" or "where has it gone?" No new stadium, no evidence of any work on their new "training ground", it's only the fact that Dopey Darrell appears to be a half decent manager that keeps them going. Much like Mick McCarthy at Ipswich, it's possibly only the manager that is keeping the show on the road at that level. Replace him & they could quickly tumble back down to where they were so recently. Spot on, Doc. As much as I hate to admit it, Clarke is a very good manager at that level - able to create something out of nothing and turn chaff into wheat. The Garse are massively overachieving. However, eventually the lure of bigger money, a non-Poundland budget, and a return to whippet-bothering land will prevail and hopefully, they'll be back to their three managers a season habit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglo-Welsh Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 22:04, Bristol Rob said: I would wager the words 'reliably disappointing' are a far finer disruption. Great article but sums up the reason English football will never change: we still buy the tickets. Football fans are their own worst enemy: the sense of belonging/being part of the club and the inherent loyalty means, whatever the suits on the board decide to charge, we will pay. Until that stops nothing will ever change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Loon plage said: Id love to see it then the "elite" can **** off never to return. My sentiments exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Loon plage said: Id love to see it then the "elite" can **** off never to return. To be replaced by a new ' Elite ' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 46 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Spot on, Doc. As much as I hate to admit it, Clarke is a very good manager at that level - able to create something out of nothing and turn chaff into wheat. The Garse are massively overachieving. However, eventually the lure of bigger money, a non-Poundland budget, and a return to whippet-bothering land will prevail and hopefully, they'll be back to their three managers a season habit. To bring them back from non league to where they are again now in such a short space of time is a very good achievement. I think it's only a matter of time till someone tries to poach him to manage another club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, BigTone said: Being saying the same for a long time. What is now the Champions League will become the Super League and then English football can return to some form of normality. I can't wait for the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: To be replaced by a new ' Elite ' . Fantasy time here but imagine it happened at short notice, top six ****** off and we made the playoffs which were then cancelled in favour of promoting the top six champ sides. I suspect all the talk of budgets FFP etc would be binned and SL would do all he could to make sure we gatecrashed the new top six/'elite whatever. Look at the current positions 7-20 clearly much bigger clubs than City but plenty of competitive teams who do not have to be "bigger" just are better run currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 19/03/2018 at 00:24, Shtanley said: Know Goldblatt personally, brilliant journalist. He's a fantastic writer. 'The Ball is Round' is the best book ever written on the global history of the game imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 I`ll just leave this here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43527262 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Red Right Hand said: I`ll just leave this here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43527262 I'm sure he's innocent. Somebody probably slipped it into his hand luggage at the customs check point . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I'm sure he's innocent. Somebody probably slipped it into his hand luggage at the customs check point . It used to happen all the time to me - sometimes some shady character would hide two or three thousand fags in my suitcase without my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: It used to happen all the time to me - sometimes some shady character would hide two or three thousand fags in my suitcase without my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renaissance Williams Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Major Isewater said: I'm sure he's innocent. Somebody probably slipped it into his hand luggage at the customs check point . A tanker? Impressive hand luggage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Renaissance Williams said: A tanker? Impressive hand luggage! Hello Mr Face Value . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bianconeri Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 On 20/03/2018 at 10:51, Red-Robbo said: Spot on, Doc. As much as I hate to admit it, Clarke is a very good manager at that level - able to create something out of nothing and turn chaff into wheat. The Garse are massively overachieving. However, eventually the lure of bigger money, a non-Poundland budget, and a return to whippet-bothering land will prevail and hopefully, they'll be back to their three managers a season habit. I’m sure Clarke will make a name and a good living for himself with a decent club but can’t see him managing a ‘name’ even at Championship level. He seems to be the sort of manager who does well with limited resources, but I suspect he’s always going to be at the sort of club that needs him to find players, develop them, and sell on. I think he’ll be pretty good at that. We’ve had a few like that over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Bianconeri said: I’m sure Clarke will make a name and a good living for himself with a decent club but can’t see him managing a ‘name’ even at Championship level. He seems to be the sort of manager who does well with limited resources, but I suspect he’s always going to be at the sort of club that needs him to find players, develop them, and sell on. I think he’ll be pretty good at that. We’ve had a few like that over the years. He's the next ' Colin ' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 This was doing the rounds yesterday: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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