Super Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Blimey how good is this Sa v Aus series! Not sure what Bancroft is up to caught stuffing something down his pants! Not heard the last of this. Cheating Aussies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Super said: Blimey how good is this Sa v Aus series! Not sure what Bancroft is up to caught stuffing something down his pants! Not heard the last of this. Cheating Aussies. Cameron Bancroft: Australia player admits to ball-tampering, Steve Smith knew in advance http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/43526870 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Smith saying he won't stand down. That means he' should be sacked by cricket Australia. They won't tolerate a cheat as captain. Its against the laws and the spirit of the game. This absolutely shocking behaviour adds to chaotic and unacceptable behaviour already seen in this series. Surely Smiths position is untenable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS5_RED Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Benaud rant I think Richie might be preparing one of these from upstairs............ Now Australia is awake most people are starting to get worked up other this. I agree with @Robbored that he should go, but the lack of a suitable replacement will probably save him. One match (at least) bans for all please. (And don't get me start on the sooking about the behaviour of the SA fans. It's ok when it happens here (http://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/23778598) but don't you dare have a go at our brave boys!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Robbored Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 Australia captain Steve Smith and vice-captain David Warner step down for rest of Test http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/43531491 Smith, quite rightly getting loads of stick from former Aussie test players and other former test match cricketers. Shane Warne particularly vocal on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 So Smith and Warner have stood down as captain and vice captain in the middle of this test match. Should the game be abandoned and the win given to South Africa? Cheating Aussies, eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 10 hours ago, BS5_RED said: Benaud rant I think Richie might be preparing one of these from upstairs............ Now Australia is awake most people are starting to get worked up other this. I agree with @Robbored that he should go, but the lack of a suitable replacement will probably save him. One match (at least) bans for all please. (And don't get me start on the sooking about the behaviour of the SA fans. It's ok when it happens here (http://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/23778598) but don't you dare have a go at our brave boys!!!) Typical Aussies. Give it out but can't take it. Chuck abuse around but when it comes their way they whinge about it. The myth of the tough Australian is just that - a myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 NO, I don’t think they should stop the test, the show goes on and players are trying to alter the ball all the time. Let South Sfrica beat them on the pitch. But, what the hell were they thinking? There’s something strange going on, I can’t believe senior players agreed to this unless they’d all been smoking something. It really is bazaar. So is the fact Warner and Leihman are complaining about sledging going too far. WHAT?? Theres something about Bancroft I haven’t liked for a while and hope he doesn’t come to Somerset. I’m sure he’ll only get a small punishment and then carry on but I’m not keen on him joining the illustrious list of great overseas players Somerset have had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, ralphindevon said: NO, I don’t think they should stop the test, the show goes on and players are trying to alter the ball all the time. Let South Sfrica beat them on the pitch. But, what the hell were they thinking? There’s something strange going on, I can’t believe senior players agreed to this unless they’d all been smoking something. It really is bazaar. So is the fact Warner and Leihman are complaining about sledging going too far. WHAT?? Theres something about Bancroft I haven’t liked for a while and hope he doesn’t come to Somerset. I’m sure he’ll only get a small punishment and then carry on but I’m not keen on him joining the illustrious list of great overseas players Somerset have had. I don't disagree with you about Bancroft but there's something I've never understood about sports fans wanting players to carry on playing but not at their club. I even do this myself, I certainly don't think he should be chucked out of the sport but I'm a bit uncomfortable with him playing for us. Hopefully it'll be a positive experience for him and Somerset will be able to play a role in his rehabilitation if the move goes ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 49 minutes ago, The Bard said: Typical Aussies. Give it out but can't take it. Chuck abuse around but when it comes their way they whinge about it. The myth of the tough Australian is just that - a myth. This test series in SA has been rife with on/off the field conflict. The tunnel incident, the Rabada furore, the Aussies whinging about the SA crowd - ffs....... Lehmann and Smith are simply unsuitable for leadership. They're both dead men walking if Cricket Australia have got any balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 The ICC have gotten tough and given Smith a one match ban and a fine. That'll learn him. Ball-tampering row: Australia captain Steve Smith banned for one Test and fined - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/43531491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, MichaelRobartes said: The ICC have gotten tough and given Smith a one match ban and a fine. That'll learn him. Ball-tampering row: Australia captain Steve Smith banned for one Test and fined - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/43531491 Weak from the ICC as usual. Hopefully that'll give Cricket Australia license to sack him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 3 hours ago, MichaelRobartes said: I don't disagree with you about Bancroft but there's something I've never understood about sports fans wanting players to carry on playing but not at their club. I even do this myself, I certainly don't think he should be chucked out of the sport but I'm a bit uncomfortable with him playing for us. Hopefully it'll be a positive experience for him and Somerset will be able to play a role in his rehabilitation if the move goes ahead. I think in this case it’s a case of do Somerset want to take on a potential problem. When Craig Overton stepped over the line and was punished, although deeply disappointed in him, I didn’t think once about him not playing for Somerset again once he’d served his ban. He was ours, one of our own and it was up to us to point him in the right direction, which the club have obviously done. Bancroft is a very average Australian batsman and part of me is thinking it’s not worth the bother. However, I’m sure he will come and I guess if he gets a hatful of runs, it’ll soon be forgotten. Big “if” though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 Anyway another video has been posted supposedly showing Bancroft putting sugar into his pocket in a test match against England in January, FFS why would he need to cheat against England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 Good news is that the cheats lost the test match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 Given the level of deceit, the umpires having called Bancroft over and asked him to empty his pockets and he lied to them producing only a sunglasses sac and given that a video has appeared from January showing Bancroft pouring sugar into his pocket in a test match against England, the ICC are an absolute joke. Hopefully this will not end here. Cheating bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 pre-meditated cheating = 1 match ban and match fee docked, wheres the incentive not to do it? If you don't get caught it can give you a big advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Given the level of deceit, the umpires having called Bancroft over and asked him to empty his pockets and he lied to them producing only a sunglasses sac and given that a video has appeared from January showing Bancroft pouring sugar into his pocket in a test match against England, the ICC are an absolute joke. Hopefully this will not end here. Cheating bastards. It won't end here for sure. Smith and Australia's integrity is in tatters, even their PM spoke about it , expressing his shock and disappointment. No way will Smith survive as captain and Lehmanns position is surely untenable. Lehmann who whinged about the SA crowd but had wound up the Aussie crowd to give it to Broad after Broad hadn't walked. Hyprocacy of the highest order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Robbored said: It won't end here for sure. Smith and Australia's integrity is in tatters, even their PM spoke about it , expressing his shock and disappointment. No way will Smith survive as captain and Lehmanns position is surely untenable. Lehmann who whinged about the SA crowd but had wound up the Aussie crowd to give it to Broad after Broad hadn't walked. Hyprocacy of the highest order. It is also being reported that Lehmann radioed the 12 th man to pre warn Bancroft that a video had appeared on the TV feed and that the umpires were going to be told what had happened, Bancroft then took the tape from his pocket and hid it in his skiddies and pretended to the umpires that he only had the the sunglasses sac. Lehmann has to be sacked, Smith banned from international cricket for 12 months, he claimed on TV that this was the first and only time, yeah right more like the first time the cheating bastards have actually been caught, it looks as though Bancroft was doing it against England, all 3 of them have more questions to answer and the ICC has to be strong and make sure that the expected Aussie bullshit excuses are plausible/honest, Bancroft carried out the act and should be banned from international for at least a year as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 Also seen that Smith has been relieved of the Rajasthan captaincy for the forthcoming IPL. Aren't they just coming back from a ban themselves? I think they have Stokes as well so they've picked up all the legends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Esmond Million's Bung Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 This is an extract from a really good article on the subject in the old current bun today. As Smith and his vulgar sidekick David Warner stood down as captain and vice-captain from the Cape Town Test. These are men who have presided over perhaps the most revolting, personal and sustained abuse of opponents cricket has known. Race, religion, sexuality - nothing seems off limits for some Australian players.And yet, at the first sign of a retort, they cry foul and attempt to claim the moral high-ground by insisting they don’t cross a ‘line’ of their own invention. It is sanctimonious and hypocritical. This unedifying culture has become ingrained in the Australian dressing-room and makes them the most loathed team in international cricket. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/5896266/australias-cheat-shame-is-the-tipping-point-for-most-loathed-team-in-world-cricket/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 Luckily it looks like Cricket Australia has more balls than the ICC. Rumours in Australia life time bans for smith and warner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 I think lifetime bans would be harsh, its happened before and there hasn't been the same punishment. I think 2 year international bans and a ban for the next domestic season (with a very severe fine) would send a clear message. 2 years would see both of them would lose a big chunk of the rest of their international careers which if anything is a much bigger punishment to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 Surely the whole so-called 'leadership group' should get the same punishment? I think that anything beyond a one or two year ban would be excessive. No great fan of any of those lads but I think that everyone should get a second chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Really like Jim Maxwell. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/43533070 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 6 hours ago, Super said: Really like Jim Maxwell. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/43533070 Indeed. Comes over as a real decent man who is desperately embarrassed by this shocking ball tampering episode. Who can blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 11 hours ago, hodge said: I think lifetime bans would be harsh, its happened before and there hasn't been the same punishment. I think 2 year international bans and a ban for the next domestic season (with a very severe fine) would send a clear message. 2 years would see both of them would lose a big chunk of the rest of their international careers which if anything is a much bigger punishment to them. I think the difference this time is a). They were caught absolutely bang to rights. b). The level of admitted planning. C). The level of deceit over the whole incident. d). The likelihood that this team has regularly employed this level of cheating and e). The new and sometimes disgusting level that this group has taken sledging to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: I think the difference this time is a). They were caught absolutely bang to rights. b). The level of admitted planning. C). The level of deceit over the whole incident. d). The likelihood that this team has regularly employed this level of cheating and e). The new and sometimes disgusting level that this group has taken sledging to. This bunch of Aussie cricketers, Lehmann including have prided themselves of playing cricket in an aggressive manner. Now , I don't have a problem with cricket being played on the front foot, going for shots and with quick hostile bowling but they've taken that philosophy way too far. Its now spread onto the pitch. Personalised sledging, some of it homophobic and other crude verbal abuse of an OTT level. Sledging happens at all levels of cricket but this lot have no awareness as to what is amusing and what is insulting. Other test playing nations hate them because of it and because of the double standards they employ. Lehmann whinging about the SA crowds.....jeez........... Aussie players confronting the opposition in the players tunnel. They seem like an unruly bunch who are leaderless.Smith might be the current best batsman in the world but is out of his depth as a leader of men and who appointed Wagner as vice captain............ As an Englishman I'm delighted to see them in so much shit but saddened for the way they have abused the spirit of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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