Robbored Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Ye same. Besides the excitement of t20 and 50 overs which I enjoy . Test cricket is my favourite. I first got into Cricket by watching tests matches on tv when the BBC had the rights.Its cricket at the ultimate level and not called a test for no reason. The Aussie cheating saga hasn't soured test match cricket for me but it has left a bad taste when I think they cheated in the recent Ashes series............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 44 minutes ago, Robbored said: I first got into Cricket by watching tests matches on tv when the BBC had the rights.Its cricket at the ultimate level and not called a test for no reason. The Aussie cheating saga hasn't soured test match cricket for me but it has left a bad taste when I think they cheated in the recent Ashes series............ Thats the thing . I really don’t mind the Aussies. In all sport and walks of life . Just a nation I respect. And have sympathy for the people innocent people affected by this . But this cricket team over the last couple of years. I don’t like. And this latest scandal doesn’t surprise me . And cock Warner at the front of the cue . I’m glad they got caught. But I think there is more to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Smith & Warner given 12 month bans & Bancroft a 9 month ban by Cricket Australia according to the associated press! But do these bans stand for all cricket or is it just cricket in Australia or involving the Australian cricket board? Will they still be allowed to play in the IPL for example? If the ban is worldwide, great, if it’s just Australian, pointless, as they’ll still be able to play & earn abroad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, Tipps69 said: Smith & Warner given 12 month bans & Bancroft a 9 month ban by Cricket Australia according to the associated press! But do these bans stand for all cricket or is it just cricket in Australia or involving the Australian cricket board? Will they still be allowed to play in the IPL for example? If the ban is worldwide, great, if it’s just Australian, pointless, as they’ll still be able to play & earn abroad.... Back for the ashes next summer! might be lively! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 25 minutes ago, Tipps69 said: Smith & Warner given 12 month bans & Bancroft a 9 month ban by Cricket Australia according to the associated press! But do these bans stand for all cricket or is it just cricket in Australia or involving the Australian cricket board? Will they still be allowed to play in the IPL for example? If the ban is worldwide, great, if it’s just Australian, pointless, as they’ll still be able to play & earn abroad.... At Somerset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Super said: Back for the ashes next summer! might be lively! By that time it’ll be a blanket ban on sledging etc so nothing will be allowed to be said to any of them & they’ll get away scot free, falls into their hands again! 2 minutes ago, Super said: At Somerset. They shouldn’t be allowed to play anywhere. It’s like this headline of them all being sent home yesterday, they are banned for the final test anyway, no need for them to be there in SA anyway. They’ll go back to Australia & the disappear on family holidays anyway, just to get away from all the press & grief, they won’t give a shit, it’ll just help them make more money when they sell their stories! It really isn’t a hardship for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Tipps69 said: Smith & Warner given 12 month bans & Bancroft a 9 month ban by Cricket Australia according to the associated press! But do these bans stand for all cricket or is it just cricket in Australia or involving the Australian cricket board? Will they still be allowed to play in the IPL for example? If the ban is worldwide, great, if it’s just Australian, pointless, as they’ll still be able to play & earn abroad.... It isn't a worldwide ban, but the IPL have banned them for a year in line with CA's decision. Although I think the IPL have only banned Warner and Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 28, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Super said: At Somerset. Can't see they won't ban him. The members are very old school down here, there is no way they would stand for it, if the club didn't enforce some sort of ban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 50 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: It isn't a worldwide ban, but the IPL have banned them for a year in line with CA's decision. Although I think the IPL have only banned Warner and Smith Seems like a joke then, they can carry on playing in New Zealand, South Africa, India, Pakistan, West Indies & in Europe, that basically allows them to carry on playing & earning throughout the year, the Australian season (in Australia) will go on for what, 4 or 5 months? Some unscrupulous people will carry on paying them to play for their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Surely the punishment has to fit the crime. If they are going to engage in 'ball-tampering' then someone needs to tamper with theirs. That'll learn 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 The Aussies are crumbling and I’m loving every minute of it. Wasn’t Bancroft flying over here this summer for Somerset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, Lew-T said: The Aussies are crumbling and I’m loving every minute of it. Wasn’t Bancroft flying over here this summer for Somerset? He was due to play for Somerset but that ain't going to happen now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: It isn't a worldwide ban, but the IPL have banned them for a year in line with CA's decision. Although I think the IPL have only banned Warner and Smith If the ICC ban them as well as CA then they can't professional cricket world wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Shouldn't this title be changed to the Sandpaper incident? They even lied about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: He was due to play for Somerset but that ain't going to happen now. I’d let him so he can receive stick on a daily basis at the crease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, Robbored said: If the ICC ban them as well as CA then they can't professional cricket world wide. I thought the ICC had already handed out their sanctions. Demerit points for Bancroft and a fine for Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: I thought the ICC had already handed out their sanctions. Demerit points for Bancroft and a fine for Smith. You're more up to speed than me WttJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 5 hours ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: It isn't a worldwide ban, but the IPL have banned them for a year in line with CA's decision. Although I think the IPL have only banned Warner and Smith Being reported that Smith has torn up his IPL contract because they could not guarantee his safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Robbored Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 I'm happy to admit that I'm loving all media furore about the Aussie cheats. I watched Smith blubbing on tv and felt no sympathy whatsoever. He's quite rightly ashamed but surely he needed to 'man up' and simply hold his hands up, admit he messed up big up and walk away from the press conference with as much pride as he had left. I can't imagine the cocky and arrogant Warner blubbing in the same fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 13 minutes ago, Robbored said: I'm happy to admit that I'm loving all media furore about the Aussie cheats. I watched Smith blubbing on tv and felt no sympathy whatsoever. He's quite rightly ashamed but surely he needed to 'man up' and simply hold his hands up, admit he messed up big up and walk away from the press conference with as much pride as he had left. I can't imagine the cocky and arrogant Warner blubbing in the same fashion. I'd feel more sorry for them if not for the Ashes footage that suggests that this has been potentially going on longer. It would not surprise me however that this whole cheating affair was instigated by Warner. Can't have been too hard for the aggressive and influential Warner to convince Bancroft. Especially as a good word from Warner could keep an arguably below par Bancroft in the test side, or indeed a bad word could see him lose this chance of a lifetime. With Australia thrashing England, and not wanting to upset the apple cart that is romping to victory by challenging the volatile Warner, Smith turns a blind eye. My theory anyway. Would explain Warner's isolation from the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 19 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: I'd feel more sorry for them if not for the Ashes footage that suggests that this has been potentially going on longer. It would not surprise me however that this whole cheating affair was instigated by Warner. Can't have been too hard for the aggressive and influential Warner to convince Bancroft. Especially as a good word from Warner could keep an arguably below par Bancroft in the test side, or indeed a bad word could see him lose this chance of a lifetime. With Australia thrashing England, and not wanting to upset the apple cart that is romping to victory by challenging the volatile Warner, Smith turns a blind eye. My theory anyway. Would explain Warner's isolation from the rest of the team. I tend to agree with you. If that was the case then I do feel a bit sorry for Smith, he's not the only one to have been too weak to stand up to someone like Warner and he won't be the last. I might have reacted in exactly the same way at that press conference he's just given. I'm not enjoying the furore at all. Test cricket is already on its arse and this is the last thing we need. In a way the whole thing has shown how sanctimonious the game is, but I can't help but think that had Australia not behaved so badly in the last few years the fallout would have been much more restrained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, MichaelRobartes said: I tend to agree with you. If that was the case then I do feel a bit sorry for Smith, he's not the only one to have been too weak to stand up to someone like Warner and he won't be the last. I might have reacted in exactly the same way at that press conference he's just given. I'm not enjoying the furore at all. Test cricket is already on its arse and this is the last thing we need. In a way the whole thing has shown how sanctimonious the game is, but I can't help but think that had Australia not behaved so badly in the last few years the fallout would have been much more restrained. Sadly the truth will never come out fully I fear, but it would also explain why Lehmann knew nothing. I'm quite split, as as much as I love watching the 'Scummy Aussies' (see what I did there ) squirm, it is just another nail in test cricket's, already quite watertight, coffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 What is it with Smith’s crocodile tears? He’s sat there during his press conference blubbering away & supposedly breaking down but not once was there any signs of a tear running down his face or even any attempt to wipe away the tears that he was supposedly blubbering away with! Looks all very much like him trying to get the sympathy vote after the crime!! Too little too late in my view!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: it is just another nail in test cricket's, already quite watertight, coffin. There's a counter point to that - all this furore over the cheating Aussies and the massive amount of media coverage could actually raise the profile of test cricket. Bad coverage is better than no coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 56 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: I'd feel more sorry for them if not for the Ashes footage that suggests that this has been potentially going on longer. It would not surprise me however that this whole cheating affair was instigated by Warner. Can't have been too hard for the aggressive and influential Warner to convince Bancroft. Especially as a good word from Warner could keep an arguably below par Bancroft in the test side, or indeed a bad word could see him lose this chance of a lifetime. With Australia thrashing England, and not wanting to upset the apple cart that is romping to victory by challenging the volatile Warner, Smith turns a blind eye. My theory anyway. Would explain Warner's isolation from the rest of the team. Or maybe Warner has been made to be the fall guy. His statement today said something along the lines of "you'll be hearing from me in the next few days" so I wonder if his side of the story may differ slightly from what we currently know and implicate a few others! That said, I do tend to agree that more than likely he was the instigator here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Or maybe Warner has been made to be the fall guy. His statement today said something along the lines of "you'll be hearing from me in the next few days" so I wonder if his side of the story may differ slightly from what we currently know and implicate a few others! That said, I do tend to agree that more than likely he was the instigator here. I love it when scandal hits 'teams' and the way that these inseparable loyal 'teammates' turn on each other to try to wriggle out of their part in the scandal, I cannot wait to hear exactly what Warner has to say. What does seem obvious to me is that the rest of the Aussie team seemed to immediately disassociate themselves with Warner. I still believe that Lehmanns position is untenable once the team arrive back in Australia, I cannot believe for one second that he had no idea of what was going on and was very quick to warn Bancroft and did nothing to stop the pantomime that unfolded with the umpires, also he has presided over a team that has become universally hated in the international game for their shocking on field behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 29, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 38 minutes ago, Tipps69 said: What is it with Smith’s crocodile tears? He’s sat there during his press conference blubbering away & supposedly breaking down but not once was there any signs of a tear running down his face or even any attempt to wipe away the tears that he was supposedly blubbering away with! Looks all very much like him trying to get the sympathy vote after the crime!! Too little too late in my view!! Reckon he is auditioning for a part in Neighbours with such poor acting !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 @Esmond Million's Bung Yes, the thought that Lehmann is the 'right man' to turn the Aussie team from one of the most hated of all-time (which he presided over, and was complicit in) to a new 'nice' team that plays cricket the right way is absolutely laughable. I'm sure that once the powers that be, and Lehmann himself, realise how daft this actually sounds that he will vacate the role one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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