Major Isewater Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Well it's a disappointing result but I recognise that I am out of my depth and in any case no one really believed that we were top six material , did they ? I am very angry and perhaps gone too far with this thread. Just had enough now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Johnsons analysis of it was we were outfought. Out-thought more like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 In reality, 'I thought it was a foul on Paterson before their goal'. Seriously Johnson, Stroud is a knob but in no way can that form part of your analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: In reality, 'I thought it was a foul on Paterson before their goal'. Seriously Johnson, Stroud is a knob but in no way can that form part of your analysis. In fairness I agree with that point but does that explain the multitude of shots that they had on our goal and the feeble number we had in theirs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, RedDave said: Johnsons analysis of it was we were outfought. Out-thought more like Many people, and indeed Talksport, said the players looked like they weren't trying so out fought seems reasonable for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, chinapig said: Many people, and indeed Talksport, said the players looked like they weren't trying so out fought seems reasonable for starters. No way. Name names then. Who wasnt trying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, RedDave said: Johnsons analysis of it was we were outfought. Out-thought more like To be fair to LJ he did say out thought and out fought. But he lost me with the comparison of Brentford to Man City! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laner Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: In fairness I agree with that point but does that explain the multitude of shots that they had on our goal and the feeble number we had in theirs ? I had to Google there to see if zero was actually a "number"!! Turns out it is BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Just white noise. Same old, same old. After that performance, I'd prefer fighting-talk, table-thumping and unbridled rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 the game reminded me of a spurs and England player Dire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 So, has he "lost the dressing room"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoc Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, RedDave said: No way. Name names then. Who wasnt trying? I really hope we're watching some obscure players from France that try hard for next season. All the other components for a mediocre season are in place, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, RedDave said: No way. Name names then. Who wasnt trying? This is one of those woosh post thingys isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, RedDave said: Johnsons analysis of it was we were outfought. Out-thought more like Spot on. Walsh and Kent were awful and the subs absurd. I give credit to LJ where due, today the blame was his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, RedDave said: No way. Name names then. Who wasnt trying? I'm referring to what some people were commenting, not making an accusation. Players can look like they are not trying for a variety of reasons. In the Talksport case the comment was something like they're either not trying or they're knackered iirc. For what it's worth my belief is that loss of confidence drains players of energy and makes for bad decision making and silly errors. But whatever the cause LJ saying we were outfought seems fair comment, which was my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, RedDave said: Johnsons analysis of it was we were outfought. Out-thought more like To correct you he said we were both of those which was very honest of him. He also conceded that the team gave nothing to the fans which was an equally honest assessment. And finally he said he was ok with fans booing at the final whistle but not booing players off when they are subbed. Absolutely agree with you on that Lee and shame on those that did no matter what you thought of their performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nibor said: Spot on. Walsh and Kent were awful and the subs absurd. I give credit to LJ where due, today the blame was his. I actually thought Walsh was one of our sharper players today. Kent was poor, poor on the ball and he looked lost off the ball. Awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nibor said: Spot on. Walsh and Kent were awful and the subs absurd. I give credit to LJ where due, today the blame was his. Kent was awful, i’ll Give you that. Walsh, he was no better or worse than any of the other starters....why call him out? The only time we played through their lines over the whole 90 was with his involvement. Dont get me wrong it wasn’t a great game for him, but he doesn’t deserve calling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nibor said: Spot on. Walsh and Kent were awful and the subs absurd. I give credit to LJ where due, today the blame was his. Have to agree. Alan Walsh and the Duchess of Kent would have been more use today. Is Walsh related to Neil Kilkenny? Points just much, but plays with his hair more than Vidal Sasoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 minute ago, NickJ said: To correct you he said we were both of those which was very honest of him. He also conceded that the team gave nothing to the fans which was an equally honest assessment. And finally he said he was ok with fans booing at the final whistle but not booing players off when they are subbed. Absolutely agree with you on that Lee and shame on those that did no matter what you thought of their performances. And what did he do about it....the evidence I saw was little to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsy62 Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, lenred said: To be fair to LJ he did say out thought and out fought. But he lost me with the comparison of Brentford to Man City! That quote about Man City was bloody rediculous he made his self sound bloody stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, Davefevs said: Kent was awful, i’ll Give you that. Walsh, he was no better or worse than any of the other starters....why call him out? The only time we played through their lines over the whole 90 was with his involvement. Dont get me wrong it wasn’t a great game for him, but he doesn’t deserve calling out. It was more the selection than the player. Didn't look anywhere near the standard required to me, played backwards passes putting teammates under pressure many times and offered nothing defensively. I'm not a Pack fan but he would have been far more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Out fought Out thought Out house Out of my depth Out of plans other than A Out shone Out.....Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, NickJ said: To correct you he said we were both of those which was very honest of him. He also conceded that the team gave nothing to the fans which was an equally honest assessment. And finally he said he was ok with fans booing at the final whistle but not booing players off when they are subbed. Absolutely agree with you on that Lee and shame on those that did no matter what you thought of their performances. Thanks, it's helpful for those who didn't hear it to know what he actually said rather than partial paraphrases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 21 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said: This is one of those woosh post thingys isn't it? Naive to think they werent trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 minute ago, RedDave said: Naive to think they werent trying If you are correct, and you may well be, it makes the situation worse rather than better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Does anyone know where the players left theirs before the game ? I don't think one player showed he had a pair today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, RedDave said: Naive to think they werent trying There were a few moments today where you could see our players watching the game flow by them and certainly not doing enough to close players down - as they have done in previous games, e.g against Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said: There were a few moments today where you could see our players watching the game flow by them and certainly not doing enough to close players down - as they have done in previous games, e.g against Wednesday. Just because someone isnt closing a player down as quickly as you would like doesnt mean they are not trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 24 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Kent was awful, i’ll Give you that. Walsh, he was no better or worse than any of the other starters....why call him out? The only time we played through their lines over the whole 90 was with his involvement. Dont get me wrong it wasn’t a great game for him, but he doesn’t deserve calling out. Not for me. He is going to be Mr 98% pass completion, the problem is nearly all of them will be square, two yards long & in our half. I worry we have signed someone who looked great in Academy football but is actually another Simon Clist, I reckon he won two tackles and was in their half about twice. Can’t believe he stayed on the full 90, we effectively had a two man midfield today, instead of a four man one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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