glynriley Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Leveller said: With respect, that seems to ignore the capital cost of buying it and the overheads for running it. There’s no point in chasing match day revenue if you can’t make the place pay overall, so that you have a worthwhile return on your capital. Isn't there talk of a BS Sport themed sports pub being built on the Wickes site when its cleared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, glynriley said: I think were looking at this from totally different angles. I'm not talking about SL buying it as a going concern, merely as an extension of the stadium facilities for supporters. (Football & Rugby) We have a sports bar at the ground which is wholly inadequate. Nowhere where the average fan get go in sit down for a pint and a pie and chips. Having a pub within spitting distance of the ground would make sense, to me at least, even if it was only open 2 or 3 days per week. If he doesn't buy it as a going concern then why buy it in the first place ? Do we expect SL to lose money just so we can have a pie and a pint at his expense ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, glynriley said: Isn't there talk of a BS Sport themed sports pub being built on the Wickes site when its cleared? I’ve no idea, but you can be sure SL wouldn’t spend the money without a business plan showing projected profits. It may of course work if the site has more frequent events - eg basketball and gigs as well as football and rugby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonboy Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, glynriley said: Not if it's owned by Bristol Sport. I can't imagine it's own sports bar or coffee shop turns a profit 7 days per week. Anyway, get the right people running it and smarten it up a bit, there's no reason why it couldn't. Food, Live music, skittles, darts & pool teams. Food, live music, skittles, darts and pool teams is exactly why it thrived in the 70s and 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 I would use the robins but it stinks of mould Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devoncider Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 The rising sun is 100% an EiG (Enterprise) pub. The former landlady moved out in Jan/Feb time and I was told that new tenants were going in - obviously not. Re: The Robins, I'm not sure that is an Enterprise pub as it was never on my list to visit there. (I was a sales rep for a brewery in the south west in a past life!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 22 minutes ago, Ashtonboy said: Food, live music, skittles, darts and pool teams is exactly why it thrived in the 70s and 80s. But them is times passed regrettably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Just thought I'd have a quick read up on whats killing the pubs off, seems to be many reasons. I used to drink out every night before all the price rises came in. Now I just have a few at home. 2014 article, 48,000 pubs were left then, must be lower by now. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/11283995/The-real-reasons-for-the-tragic-demise-of-the-British-pub-industry.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Has it been the ruin of many a poor boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, devoncider said: The rising sun is 100% an EiG (Enterprise) pub. The former landlady moved out in Jan/Feb time and I was told that new tenants were going in - obviously not. Re: The Robins, I'm not sure that is an Enterprise pub as it was never on my list to visit there. (I was a sales rep for a brewery in the south west in a past life!) I'm afraid it is. Can't find it now but I saw it on an Enterprise Inns link a few days ago when investigating the Rising Sun. The Robins was on there along with a number of other Bristol pubs, including an all time favourite of mine The White Horse, WOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 They make money on the Sat but the rest of the week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: They make money on the Sat but the rest of the week? They make money one day every 2nd week and the rest they are empty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 57 minutes ago, BigTone said: They make money one day every 2nd week and the rest they are empty May be something in that, but they must do enough custom on those busy Saturdays and Sundays (Bristol Rugby fans now as well, of course) to make up for several quieter days and both the Robins and The Rising Sun seem well frequented when I go past on Summer evenings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Cat Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, BigTone said: They make money one day every 2nd week and the rest they are empty Like Wedlocks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: May be something in that, but they must do enough custom on those busy Saturdays and Sundays (Bristol Rugby fans now as well, of course) to make up for several quieter days and both the Robins and The Rising Sun seem well frequented when I go past on Summer evenings. I doubt it very much Noggers. Why else are they looking to close down ? Remember as well, are the football & rugby crowds there 12 months of the year or just during the season ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, BigTone said: But them is times passed regrettably Man went to work. Woman stayed at home with the kids. Man enjoyed his downtime. life has changed massively the past 30-40 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, City Cat said: Like Wedlocks..... and where is that now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I'm afraid it is. Can't find it now but I saw it on an Enterprise Inns link a few days ago when investigating the Rising Sun. The Robins was on there along with a number of other Bristol pubs, including an all time favourite of mine The White Horse, WOT. https://www.eipublicanpartnerships.com/run-a-pub/pubs/pages/robins-ashton.aspx https://www.eipublicanpartnerships.com/run-a-pub/pubs/pages/rising-sun-bristol.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted April 9, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 37 minutes ago, BigTone said: and where is that now ? In a lot of memories, when it was called the Star, drinking underage in there when we were hanging around Ashton Park, later it was the meeting place for the Triumph Owners Club and latterly back as the Wedlock’s, so many great nights in there and after game nights topped off with one of Stuart’s curries that had most of a bottle of Insanity Sauce in........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Drink at the gate. Throw money back in to the club. Sports bar and outside bars much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Just now, Maesknoll Red said: In a lot of memories, when it was called the Star, drinking underage in there when we were hanging around Ashton Park, later it was the meeting place for the Triumph Owners Club and latterly back as the Wedlock’s, so great nights in there and topped of with one of Stuart’s Currys that had most of a bottle of Insanity Source in........ That's the sad thing though isn't it. We all have memories of our old pubs but times they are a changing. Really depressing but very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted April 9, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, BigTone said: That's the sad thing though isn't it. We all have memories of our old pubs but times they are a changing. Really depressing but very true. It’s a terrible thing that supermarkets sell beer cheaper than water, putting pubs out of business, I never even used to keep any drink in the house, would go out most nights, now I do have the odd drink at home, but still get out to pubs every week, it’s just not the same drinking at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Maesknoll Red said: It’s a terrible thing that supermarkets sell beer cheaper than water, putting pubs out of business, I never even used to keep any drink in the house, would go out most nights, now I do have the odd drink at home, but still get out to pubs every week, it’s just not the same drinking at home. Know how you feel. When I was in Saudi the petrol was cheaper than water .......... true !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devoncider Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I'm afraid it is. Can't find it now but I saw it on an Enterprise Inns link a few days ago when investigating the Rising Sun. The Robins was on there along with a number of other Bristol pubs, including an all time favourite of mine The White Horse, WOT. In that case my data was old and useless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, Maesknoll Red said: It’s a terrible thing that supermarkets sell beer cheaper than water, putting pubs out of business, I never even used to keep any drink in the house, would go out most nights, now I do have the odd drink at home, but still get out to pubs every week, it’s just not the same drinking at home. People have less disposable income too in a lot of cases so it's a no-brainer to buy a lot more from shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publandlord Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Assuming enterprise want to sell the price would be remarkably cheap. A building worth £1,000,000 as a house/office etc, would be lucky to fetch £400k as a pub. Interesting as the telegraph article is above - its not accuarate. My first job was for a brewery (back in 1971) back then rents were not seen as an income stream, so a basic back street drinkers local would have a monthly rental of £5 (beer at the time was 12p a pint) when I left my back street village drinkers pub in 2009 the rental was £2500 a month if beer had gone up at the same rate that 12p pint would be £60 now! so the idea that the pub companies are not profiteering b*stards is completely wrong - like a lot of other "news/analysis" in the telegraph. I could still make a reasonable living from my pub, but others who followed me couldn't and its now shut. If the club were to buy the Sun (again assuming Enterprise would sell) they would make sufficient money from match days (profit on a £3 pint is £1.50 - staff wages are not far off minimum wage) to make it support a tenant or manager on non match days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Two questions - why would SL buy a pub to encourage people to drink outside of Ashton Gate on match days, when the objective must be to maximise income inside the stadium? As for non-match days, he’s not in the pub trade, so why buy a pub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: ....I do have the odd drink at home, but still get out to pubs every week, it’s just not the same drinking at home. But the landlord at home gives such generous measures, and there’s never a chucking out time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 I always wondered how the Ship & Castle stayed open for so long considering there’s nothing really by it. Their non match day income must’ve been non existent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, Carey 6 said: I always wondered how the Ship & Castle stayed open for so long considering there’s nothing really by it. Their non match day income must’ve been non existent. When did that close? 10 years ago or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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