Mr Popodopolous Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: by my reckoning it’s Plan E (Allowing for a few minor amendments along the way ) A Busy bees / high press B Chuck Flint up top and launch it ( Later Duric) (Less effective than A) C 4-4-2 with Famara and Bobby Reid up front with Bobby ending up in midfield C Chuck Diony Famara and Duric on together and launch it (Less effective than A or B) D tba Is a shame really, because with the range of players, in terms of type and versatility, we now have, those Plans B, C and the other one you also listed C with Diony, Famara and Djuric up top to launch- we should have been able to do better than that... Maybe Plan E will be what Plan B should have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Is a shame really, because with the range of players, in terms of type and versatility, we now have, those Plans B, C and the other one you also listed C with Diony, Famara and Djuric up top to launch- we should have been able to do better than that... Maybe Plan E will be what Plan B should have been. Ironically , and many will disagree I’m sure but after A The best worked on plan with some signs of fruition was actually IMHO B - Using Flint !!!!!! who at least worked hard getting to and fro across the pitch to be constantly available for a long diagonal cross / ball C has been dissapointing (IMHO) (Not sure FD and BR link up at all well) And D is what people do on a Sunday Morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semblar Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 hours ago, hodge said: How about 5-5 and just play long ball taking out the need for a midfield, with 5 defenders we don't need the defensive side of them either Well I suppose it is better than the 9-0-1 (or even 10-0-0) we've seen on many occasions over the years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 It would be nice to see ANY plan to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 And plan F will be ’ The Return’ featuring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Ironically , and many will disagree I’m sure but after A The best worked on plan with some signs of fruition was actually IMHO B - Using Flint !!!!!! who at least worked hard getting to and fro across the pitch to be constantly available for a long diagonal cross / ball C has been dissapointing (IMHO) (Not sure FD and BR link up at all well) And D is what people do on a Sunday Morning Tend to agree with that. Flint as a Plan B did a job- we saw it at QPR away. Thing is for me though, good range of central midfielders, good set of centre backs- could even though we have a lack of right sided midfielders/full backs- look at something like O'Dowda and Bryan as wing backs. My point I guess, is a better, more constructive use of a Plan C or above certainly might have been a 4-3-3, or a 3-5-2/3-4-1-2 hybrid.It shows a distinct lack of imagination and even effectiveness to just stick 3 up front and launch IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Tend to agree with that. Flint as a Plan B did a job- we saw it at QPR away. Thing is for me though, good range of central midfielders, good set of centre backs- could even though we have a lack of right sided midfielders/full backs- look at something like O'Dowda and Bryan as wing backs. My point I guess, is a better, more constructive use of a Plan C or above certainly might have been a 4-3-3, or a 3-5-2/3-4-1-2 hybrid.It shows a distinct lack of imagination and even effectiveness to just stick 3 up front and launch IMO. Despite another awful performance Saturday I’d be tempted not to make too many changes - bring in NE for JP and try wither NE or preferably COD as a 10 behind Bobby Or Kelly LB , JB LM COD as 10 With the space he could find running from that 10 hole - just wonder if COD could be a handful there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 44 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Ironically , and many will disagree I’m sure but after A The best worked on plan with some signs of fruition was actually IMHO B - Using Flint !!!!!! who at least worked hard getting to and fro across the pitch to be constantly available for a long diagonal cross / ball C has been dissapointing (IMHO) (Not sure FD and BR link up at all well) And D is what people do on a Sunday Morning Against (poor) Wednesday Fielding played the ball frequently into the CB's. The team then linked up with the two playing well of each other. There is a difference there to lamping it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Against (poor) Wednesday Fielding played the ball frequently into the CB's. The team then linked up with the two playing well of each other. There is a different there to lamping it. Fair point but They gave us acres of room tho Cowshed No closing down even in their own third , and the spaces between their lines was incredible - talk about help yourself (And We did first half to be fair) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Despite another awful performance Saturday I’d be tempted not to make too many changes - bring in NE for JP and try wither NE or preferably COD as a 10 behind Bobby Or Kelly LB , JB LM COD as 10 With the space he could find running from that 10 hole - just wonder if COD could be a handful there He might well be- and Reid tends to need a 10 behind him I think- not strictly but it helps. My instinct was to try Walsh in that role, because he can play as an attacking midfielder, but this could be worth a go tonight.- COD behind that is. My only reservation with that is- and I'm not knocking his defensive side at all- would he come back deeper into the midfield in defensive phases as happens with a 4-4-1-1 at its best? Anything though has to be better than Plan D, and indeed much has to be better than Plan C. Like the Kelly at LB with Bryan as LM too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: He might well be- and Reid tends to need a 10 behind him I think- not strictly but it helps. My instinct was to try Walsh in that role, because he can play as an attacking midfielder, but this could be worth a go tonight.- COD behind that is. My only reservation with that is- and I'm not knocking his defensive side at all- would he come back deeper into the midfield in defensive phases as happens with a 4-4-1-1 at its best? Anything though has to be better than Plan D, and indeed much has to be better than Plan C. Like the Kelly at LB with Bryan as LM too. Maybe it’s not the time to experiment But - Just a ‘hunch’ he could do well there , even if only as a future option Doesn’t have some of the sublime skills JP can produce but Can pass a ball , runs well with the ball , and can go either way which would help open it up for him centrally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 JB has to start st LM or not at all even he has no belief in playing in a back 4, never has had, the number of complaints about him in recent weeks confirm this. He has so much more to offer when he has freedom to attack, when in form he has the best left boot in the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DayRider1984 Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 I personally think we should go 4-1-3-2 Fielding Wright - Flint - Baker - Kelly(although it will be bryan) Smith Brownhill - Pack - Odowda Reid - Duric at least give it ago and let them worry about us, never know we might actually get a shot on target! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 8 hours ago, Wanderingred said: Let's go with an old school 1920s style 2-3-5 formation. Fielding Flint Baker Pisano Wright Bryan Reid Diedhiou Diony Taylor Woodrow Birmingham won't know what hit them and will have no idea how to play. Problem is, neither will we. I wouldnt mind that, but 3 if those strikers really arent very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Maybe it’s not the time to experiment But - Just a ‘hunch’ he could do well there , even if only as a future option Doesn’t have some of the sublime skills JP can produce but Can pass a ball , runs well with the ball , and can go either way which would help open it up for him centrally It probably isn't time yet to experiment. Yeah, he could open up space for sure. Certainly he can go either way, would be an interesting experiment for sure. What it definitely reinforces for me, is that we do have options and have done all season that would allow good other plans, yet LJ just hasn't been capable of utilising them correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Fair point but They gave us acres of room tho Cowshed No closing down even in their own third , and the spaces between their lines was incredible - talk about help yourself (And We did first half to be fair) Intent. The intent of the team was to build and pass it. The intent the previous week was not to. It was not due to Cardiff preventing City playing out. Fielding when he had the opportunity did not as instructed. Two games a week apart with differing intent and focus. Looking at Bristol Citys midfield options the intent should be to pass, move, play short .. That is what the club have developed and recruited. Instead Mr Johnson is trying to marry that with the club footed. Your earlier post regarding busy (passing) bees is succinct. That is City, or was until with what have been mainly crap consequences Mr Johnson decided to alter that intent months ago. There is no way in the world the team can be properly prepared each week physically, tactically, technically and mentally when Mr Johnson is attempting to be your A - D game to game. Other teams (good ) know what they are and train to play liked they are week to week to month ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 11 hours ago, Robbored said: We'll see something different tonight as Deano said in his interview that City haven't been creating many chances in recent games.So more crosses and that'll mean Djuric up top and CoD out wide and Bryan getting forward more. We may even see Kelly at LB with JB in front of him, Team selection will be interesting tonight fir sure. Let's go bronze age football. Two donkeys up front to dump it long on. Not going to watch the shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Plan B was Sunderland. This is plan Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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