ZiderEyed Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 We're still getting outdone by fucking Norfolk of all places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Would be a bit more awareness in Norwich tbh, as their SAG warned of a potential closure of a section of one of their stands last year owing to persistent standing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC&T Board Members Blagdon red Posted April 16, 2018 SC&T Board Members Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 "Just like Bristol, your City is red!" Well, as @ZiderEyed says, at the moment Bristol is far from the reddest City on the heat map showing where people signing the safe standing petition live: Let's really turn our City red! Click here to pile on the redness!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Mind you, I don't wish to sound a moaner but I've said it before, Millwall away- in block I was in so many City fans were sat throughout as a % of said block- perhaps there is sadly less demand? (However I think it's there but that example did come as a surprise to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Mind you, I don't wish to sound a moaner but I've said it before, Millwall away- in block I was in so many City fans were sat throughout as a % of said block- perhaps there is sadly less demand? (However I think it's there but that example did come as a surprise to me). I was in Block 21 and everyone was stood up, at least in the back 10 rows or so. Think you just got unlucky with your block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 31 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: I was in Block 21 and everyone was stood up, at least in the back 10 rows or so. Think you just got unlucky with your block. More than likely yeah. (Block 25 for the record- think a few at the front and a few at the back stood- I was inclined to stand but noticed people behind me weren't so sitting the only real option). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lager loud Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 42 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Mind you, I don't wish to sound a moaner but I've said it before, Millwall away- in block I was in so many City fans were sat throughout as a % of said block- perhaps there is sadly less demand? (However I think it's there but that example did come as a surprise to me). Why should people wanting to sit at a match be something to moan about? We're not all the same, we don't all want the same things. Good. I generally don't want to stand at games any more. But I've signed and shared the petition because I understand that some people do and the only way that causes me a problem is when some inconsiderate a-hole decides his right to stand is more important than my right to see the game. Having an area (as big as the demand for it justifies) specifically designed for those who want to stand can only be a good thing. As is having a dedicated area for those of us who want to watch the game whlist sitting down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 53 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Mind you, I don't wish to sound a moaner but I've said it before, Millwall away- in block I was in so many City fans were sat throughout as a % of said block- perhaps there is sadly less demand? (However I think it's there but that example did come as a surprise to me). Didn't fancy moving block? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Aaron-Bcfc said: Didn't fancy moving block? Don't get away all that often, didn't know you could! There was a steward at the bottom of the steps so would I think have checked tickets for capacity purposes etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, lager loud said: Why should people wanting to sit at a match be something to moan about? We're not all the same, we don't all want the same things. Good. I generally don't want to stand at games any more. But I've signed and shared the petition because I understand that some people do and the only way that causes me a problem is when some inconsiderate a-hole decides his right to stand is more important than my right to see the game. Having an area (as big as the demand for it justifies) specifically designed for those who want to stand can only be a good thing. As is having a dedicated area for those of us who want to watch the game whlist sitting down. I fully agree, I prefer to stand personally but each to their own. It's long overdue this safe-standing, for the very reason you outline- people standing behind people who cannot or choose not to stand. A safe standing area- say for example the whole of the South Stand in an ideal world. Or maybe the upper half of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Signed and shared. The pressure's on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 On 15/04/2018 at 17:37, finbarr_in_z said: Slowed to a trickle though. Maybe those of us who desperately want this are in a minority Maybe but I can’t believe people are so self centred and selfish. ive never sat at football but would happily campaign for safe seating for those who must. when did we lose freedom of choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Are there members of the campaign in each forum? Forums aren’t the be all and end all. I wonder how the message gets spread without it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, 054123 said: Maybe but I can’t believe people are so self centred and selfish. ive never sat at football but would happily campaign for safe seating for those who must. when did we lose freedom of choice? I signed it despite having no intention of using the facility. As you say, it’s about giving people choices. Besides, the sooner it’s legal the sooner people can stop moaning about those who’d rather sit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Don't get away all that often, didn't know you could! There was a steward at the bottom of the steps so would I think have checked tickets for capacity purposes etc. You'd have been fine mate, can't remember the last time I sat in my correct seat at an away game. Can't remember the last time anyone booted me out for being in their seat either, I think most people just tend to go wherever. Obviously sometimes there are stewards checking tickets on entrance to the away end, but it's easy enough to get around them and most don't care. QPR is one of the strictest but I still managed at half time this season to move to the cheaper silver block (had purchased a gold ticket but the atmosphere was beyond dire there.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 25 minutes ago, Aaron-Bcfc said: You'd have been fine mate, can't remember the last time I sat in my correct seat at an away game. Can't remember the last time anyone booted me out for being in their seat either, I think most people just tend to go wherever. Obviously sometimes there are stewards checking tickets on entrance to the away end, but it's easy enough to get around them and most don't care. QPR is one of the strictest but I still managed at half time this season to move to the cheaper silver block (had purchased a gold ticket but the atmosphere was beyond dire there.) True. Stewards seemed pretty hands off, low key at Millwall I thought- what with the unreserved seats by block policy, decent away day all told-probably will do it next year. I suppose basically wasn't sure there would be three seats in another block (were three of us) that was the other reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 In terms of publicising the petition, the cause. Dunno if anyone has already but if not, could always try contacting Geoff Twentyman. Mayb see if he could do a feature on this on 'Sound of the City' next week, or by the end of the season at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: True. Stewards seemed pretty hands off, low key at Millwall I thought- what with the unreserved seats by block policy, decent away day all told-probably will do it next year. I suppose basically wasn't sure there would be three seats in another block (were three of us) that was the other reason. With the way they've been going mate we'll have to hope for a cup tie haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Somerset Red Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Think the Midlands and London areas are letting us down on this, would expect a lot of red around those regions when you considered the teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC&T Board Members Blagdon red Posted April 16, 2018 SC&T Board Members Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Strong comments here from Shaun Harvey on safe standing: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43791494 Getting close to 57,000 now on the petition, which you can sign here https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/207040 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finbarr_in_z Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 15 hours ago, South Somerset Red said: Think the Midlands and London areas are letting us down on this, would expect a lot of red around those regions when you considered the teams Where's the heat map showing this? Got a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, finbarr_in_z said: Where's the heat map showing this? Got a link? http://petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=207040 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finbarr_in_z Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: http://petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=207040 Ta. Impressive effort from Merseyside considering this is an emotive subject there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, finbarr_in_z said: Ta. Impressive effort from Merseyside considering this is an emotive subject there. Don't quote me on it, but fairly sure the Spirit of Shankly group did a survey of all it's members asking who'd be in favour of safe standing, and it was above 80%. Norwich surprised me the most. Fucking Norwich! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finbarr_in_z Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Don't quote me on it, but fairly sure the Spirit of Shankly group did a survey of all it's members asking who'd be in favour of safe standing, and it was above 80%. Norwich surprised me the most. Fucking Norwich! I think you're right about the SoS group. I noticed hardly any support in Scotland, but then realised it doesn't apply to them (I believe), eg the Celtic rail seat area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 17, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 I wonder how much that map reflects how well the petition has been promoted though? We are fortunate that we have Jon Darch as part of this board, but can imagine many clubs aren't as aware as "we" are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 I think there is still a lot of ignorance out there regarding rail seating and difference between it and the crash barriers. I shared this link on my facebook page and immediately found myself in a discussion that raised the spectre of Hillsborough, "crowd surges" and access issues. I posted a couple of pictures of rail seating to answer all of these points, but some people have had this safety issue ingrained by the government and the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, phantom said: I wonder how much that map reflects how well the petition has been promoted though? We are fortunate that we have Jon Darch as part of this board, but can imagine many clubs aren't as aware as "we" are Maybe in Birmingham it's not got as much publicity. That map reflects poorly on the area, nowhere near as many signatures as I'd expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Don't quote me on it, but fairly sure the Spirit of Shankly group did a survey of all it's members asking who'd be in favour of safe standing, and it was above 80%. Norwich surprised me the most. Fucking Norwich! This and This may help to explain their interest in this regard. They have had first hand experience of this issue this season, definitely helps to explain why their interest is higher than might be expected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/more-than-50-norwich-city-fans-to-be-forced-to-move-seats-to-stop-standing-concerns-from-cutting-carrow-road-capacity-1-5326044 http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/canaries-fans-appear-to-flout-no-standing-edic-1-5314954 They have had first hand experience of this issue this season, definitely helps to explain why their interest is higher than expected! Fair enough then! Seems like we might have a rival for the worst SAG in the country award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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