KeepUpLino Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 So LJ will next season start from scratch and try to rebuild, re style a team capable of challenging for the premier league. How many windows will he want this time? What style of football will we be playing? How long will LJ be given to achieve this? Will LJ get a 3rd rebuild attempt? Is LJ un-sackable? What is this clubs true ambition...................? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, KeepUpLino said: So LJ will next season start from scratch and try to rebuild, re style a team capable of challenging for the premier league. Of course he will . How many windows will he want this time? It's an ongoing process. What style of football will we be playing? Does even LJ know ? How long will LJ be given to achieve this? I would imagine that if we continue in the present form LJ needn't bother with Christmas decorations in his office. Will LJ get a 3rd rebuild attempt? Yes. Is LJ un-sackable? Not even LJ is unsackable but he would have to admit that he couldn't go on or that clearly the team weren't playing for him or the fans stopped coming to spend their money at the Gate. What is this clubs true ambition...................? This is the big question. I believe that they would be happy to be in the Prem but aren't prepared to take the necessary risks to get there. I think SL would be quite happy flirting with the Championship play offs each season and having the occasional cup run whilst watching inventive football played by cheap signings and academy youngsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 25, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 The now infamous "Three transfer windows" comment comes back to bite him on the arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohbasso Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, phantom said: The now infamous "Three transfer windows" comment comes back to bite him on the arse To be fair though I don’t think he Promised promotion after three windows just said that’s how long that it would take to get a squad capable of competing at the right end, which he has. I can’t find the original quote though so could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Ohbasso said: To be fair though I don’t think he Promised promotion after three windows just said that’s how long that it would take to get a squad capable of competing at the right end, which he has. I can’t find the original quote though so could be wrong. You may be right. Last transfer window was pretty pony however and cost us badly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, REDOXO said: You may be right. Last transfer window was pretty pony however and cost us badly! Yet Mark Ashton gets off Scott free - barley heard his name mentioned in fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 10 hours ago, phantom said: The now infamous "Three transfer windows" comment comes back to bite him on the arse ....and the ‘Europe within 5 years’ comment back in 2016... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Ohbasso said: To be fair though I don’t think he Promised promotion after three windows just said that’s how long that it would take to get a squad capable of competing at the right end, which he has. I can’t find the original quote though so could be wrong. https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/johnson-reiterates-need-for-three-transfer-windows/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: ....and the ‘Europe within 5 years’ comment back in 2016... He meant pre season tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohbasso Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 41 minutes ago, REDOXO said: You may be right. Last transfer window was pretty pony however and cost us badly! Can’t argue with that, it’s all gone horribly wrong since Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 13 hours ago, KeepUpLino said: So LJ will next season start from scratch and try to rebuild, re style a team capable of challenging for the premier league. How many windows will he want this time? What style of football will we be playing? How long will LJ be given to achieve this? Will LJ get a 3rd rebuild attempt? Is LJ un-sackable? What is this clubs true ambition...................? I’m pretty mixed on LJ, but as previous posters have confirmed, the three windows comment has been clarified. Playing devil’s advocate, Alex Ferguson rebuilt multiple teams in his tenure. For me he’s achieved goal number one (even though he might called it phase 3), which make us competitive in this division, albeit inconsistently competitive. SL will want further progress next year. I think that will be tough if we lose our best player(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello Dave Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 34 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: ....and the ‘Europe within 5 years’ comment back in 2016... I think we are entering " Its a knockout"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 If we sell Bobby during the summer, then tactically we will need to have a new plan a never mind a plan b! No body is going to be able to play the high press like BR, well no one we can afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 9 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/johnson-reiterates-need-for-three-transfer-windows/ 20 hours ago, phantom said: The now infamous "Three transfer windows" comment comes back to bite him on the arse Well technically speaking, after 3 windows we were challenging at the top of the table! Was the 4th window where it went wrong! 9 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: ....and the ‘Europe within 5 years’ comment back in 2016... I think people miss the context here, it was a direct reply to Clarke’s answer about where he’d like Rovers to be in 5 years which was something like ‘I’d like a new training ground’. Initially it was meant to be a bit of a joke designed to poke fun at the difference in ambition between the two clubs. He went on to embellish that by basically saying ‘well why not Europe within 5 years, we have to aim high’. I’m not a fan of these hyperbolic statements he sometimes makes because people will spin them and use them against him. I think he’s cut down on them this season. It’s similar to Ashton’s ‘not specifically aiming for promotion’ comment. Without context it sounds terrible, but what he meant was ‘we’re not putting our eggs in 1 basket with no plan b if we don’t go up’. With the full context, it’s a completely reasonable and pretty sensible thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 10 hours ago, REDOXO said: You may be right. Last transfer window was pretty pony however and cost us badly! More of a transfer skylight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 23 hours ago, phantom said: The now infamous "Three transfer windows" comment comes back to bite him on the arse No it doesn't, it was never 3 windows for play offs or promotion, it was 3 windows to get a team to play the way and style he wants which we are seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 26, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 hour ago, hodge said: No it doesn't, it was never 3 windows for play offs or promotion, it was 3 windows to get a team to play the way and style he wants which we are seeing. Exactly my point !! What a fantastic improvement we have seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 13 hours ago, YorkshireSection said: If we sell Bobby during the summer, then tactically we will need to have a new plan a never mind a plan b! No body is going to be able to play the high press like BR, well no one we can afford. Fielding RB Flint Baker Kelly Brownhill Pack Smith O'Dowda Bryan Diedhiou If Diedhiou unavailable, that's where Djuric comes in. Walsh can replace one of the midfield 3, even Hegeler in some circs and we would probably retain the ball quite well, but the excitement of the autumn? Nope. Paterson could replace O'Dowda in some circs too- funnily enough, think that could have been our Plan B this season and a reasonable one at that if Reid was ever unavailable... Football wouldn't be as easy on the eye as the Autumn, but would be relatively effective IMO and not terrible to watch either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 14 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: ....and the ‘Europe within 5 years’ comment back in 2016... That was before the Brexit vote though - be fair.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 On 25/04/2018 at 08:27, KeepUpLino said: So LJ will next season start from scratch and try to rebuild, re style a team capable of challenging for the premier league. How many windows will he want this time? Looks like he has tried to forget about the original three! What style of football will we be playing? High Press or Route One to the Big Man How long will LJ be given to achieve this? In reality....as long as he wants Will LJ get a 3rd rebuild attempt? He will get as many as he wants Is LJ un-sackable? Pretty much. He does as instructed What is this clubs true ambition...................? Self sustainability regardless of division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 3 hours ago, phantom said: Exactly my point !! What a fantastic improvement we have seen 4 wins in 20, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Zod Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 6 hours ago, hodge said: No it doesn't, it was never 3 windows for play offs or promotion, it was 3 windows to get a team to play the way and style he wants which we are seeing. Are we really seeing that? I really hope what I’ve watched in 2018 isn’t a reflection of the style LJ wants. We are no where near a finished article after 3 windows and with the potential of good players leaving and questionable success from our recruitment policy I’d say we have a long road in front of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 I assumed this was going to be a thread about buying the houses behind the Atyeo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 20 hours ago, 1960maaan said: He meant pre season tour So that is why he's still here then ; he did it in one year not five Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 8 hours ago, hodge said: No it doesn't, it was never 3 windows for play offs or promotion, it was 3 windows to get a team to play the way and style he wants which we are seeing. God help us if this is the way LJ wants City to play Hello Division 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 12 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Well technically speaking, after 3 windows we were challenging at the top of the table! Was the 4th window where it went wrong! I think people miss the context here, it was a direct reply to Clarke’s answer about where he’d like Rovers to be in 5 years which was something like ‘I’d like a new training ground’. Initially it was meant to be a bit of a joke designed to poke fun at the difference in ambition between the two clubs. He went on to embellish that by basically saying ‘well why not Europe within 5 years, we have to aim high’. I’m not a fan of these hyperbolic statements he sometimes makes because people will spin them and use them against him. I think he’s cut down on them this season. It’s similar to Ashton’s ‘not specifically aiming for promotion’ comment. Without context it sounds terrible, but what he meant was ‘we’re not putting our eggs in 1 basket with no plan b if we don’t go up’. With the full context, it’s a completely reasonable and pretty sensible thing to say. You've wasted your time there Phileas. No matter how many times people point out the context of the quote(s), it still gets discarded within a couple of posts as the next one digs in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 On 25/04/2018 at 09:38, Major Isewater said: On your last point, is that such a bad thing given where this club has been for the majority of its history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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