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Barry Sheene

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2 hours ago, 1bristolcity said:

He was unmercifully booed when here as a player, will never come.

Remember going to Shrewsbury in the Joe Jordan promotion season. As he was the captain of Shrewsbury at the time he had a column in the programme and he said that his time  at Bristol City was the happiest of his career and that he didn't want to leave which would suggest you are wrong.

 

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Taz

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1 hour ago, 123red1 said:

I'm not sure why he's left West Ham, in fairness he's not done a bad job and they looked in danger of going down and they stayed up quite comfortably.

Quite puzzling. 

Was only on short term contract until the end of the season. West Ham have decided not to extend it.

37 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Back to Everton.

I wouldn't be surprised. Saying that, often the second time around doesn't work out as well as the first - although not always the case granted.

On that subject I read somewhere the other day that a manager had left the club he was at - either for the 4th or 5th time!! (Can't remember full details).

As for coming here - Johnson's got the job, and I doubt Moyes would drop out of the Premiership.

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Mtimmy11

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This will sound like a joke but about 4years ago we had to get permission to work next to a house in Clifton.You guessed it ,it was David moyes house which he bought for one of his kids to go to bristol uni.so he's already sorted for his digs

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Mr Popodopolous

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Should we- if available- take Moyes?

Hard question in some ways- yes, on the face of it. I don't think his style of play at Everton was all long ball either, he mixed it- better than Warnock that's for sure and Pulis too- so that's not really a concern for me either.

The questions I would ask as regards us and Moyes, in theory if it became a possibility:

  • Is his style of play compatible with ours? That is to say, would he deliver what we need, i.e. not a 4-4-2 which leaves us pretty wide open. I don't think he's a 4-4-2 man these days so...
  • Would he want full control over transfers, or be willing to work within this model? We could tweak the model, change some names but nonetheless the model would remain as a basic template.
  • Are you comfortable, familiar with the Championship in 2018? (There's no doubt he did a great job at Preston- promotion then at this level, but the Championship is a vastly different animal now- which could in fact work in his favour too as he has vast PL experience).

Then a big question- can he take a club forward these days? Example- Went to Sociedad when they were in and around the bottom 3, or lower mid-table and took them to midtable. Good start- got some notable results too vs big clubs.

Following year comes around. Net spend that summer of (according to Transfermarkt), £21.69m. He starts talking down top 6- which is fair enough! Club in rebuilding, however he then presided over 2 wins in 11, poor performances, not many goals or shots and 17th when sacked. What I'm saying is keeping them up fine, but the next level? Should have been in and around higher mid table, perhaps top 8 tbh that next year but...

His West Ham work was decent, his Man United work was bang average and his Sunderland work- well club's a basketcase so hard to judge.

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3 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said:

I shall boo!

(not really)

Even so: not my choice.  Big journeymen footballers at Everton playing a direct / long ball game.  Think big Dunc.

He's another Pulis: he will bring us success but probably not in the way that we would want it.

Success is an unqualified target . Matters not the how . I bet both play off final contenders are looking enviously at Cardiff and what a job NW did there with , by a majority opinion,  in not the beautiful game way . 

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3 hours ago, RedM said:

Not from what I can recall, and you do realise he was interviewed and so nearly appointed as manager here?Yes, SL,right the wrong you made years ago, a huge mistake in your judgement, but I will forgive you if you appoint Moysie, kick MA out and give him his job, see how he likes it! :laughcont:

Don't think it was Lansdowns call back then

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MC RISK77

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There is no vacancy and neither will there be by the time mr moyes finds another job.

if hypothetically there was I would not be overly enthused with David moyes when looking at the potential up and coming managers around such as smith, cook, amongst others

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13 minutes ago, City Rocker said:

I think SL and John Laycock outvoted Davidson in the Pulis appointment fiasco. I'm a supporter of SL but that would go down as one of his most disastrous mistakes. 

The board were split on Moyes or Pulis. Lansdown opted to go with John Lacock's choice of Pulis,  Moyes being in higher league with Preston at the time, eventually leaving for Everton

 Lansdown has made a fair few mistakes during his tenure,  this being the biggest in my opinion.  Took years to get over the Pulis debacle. signed so many unfit aging journeyman,  unforgivable bringing that fraud to our club! 

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3 minutes ago, Joe hicks said:

The board were split on Moyes or Pulis. Lansdown opted to go with John Lacock's choice of Pulis,  Moyes being in higher league with Preston at the time, eventually leaving for Everton

 Lansdown has made a fair few mistakes during his tenure,  this being the biggest in my opinion.  Took years to get over the Pulis debacle. signed so many unfit aging journeyman,  unforgivable bringing that fraud to our club! 

This gets repeated a lot, wasn’t it John Laycock?

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The Dolman Pragmatist

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My view remains that Pulis was right about the state of City when he took it over and six seasons later we were in exactly the same state.  Gary Johnson then set about the repair job that Pulis had promised, which Danny Wilson had completely neglected and Brian Tinnion was just too inexperienced to deal with.  Pulis was right, but it would have been a long haul.  However, I would venture to suggest that if we had grit our teeth and stuck with Pulis, we would have been promoted back to the Championship in 2001/02.

My understanding, and for once I can claim to be ITK, is that it was Laycock’s casting vote that led to Pulis being appointed.

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Mr Popodopolous

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29 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

My view remains that Pulis was right about the state of City when he took it over and six seasons later we were in exactly the same state.  Gary Johnson then set about the repair job that Pulis had promised, which Danny Wilson had completely neglected and Brian Tinnion was just too inexperienced to deal with.  Pulis was right, but it would have been a long haul.  However, I would venture to suggest that if we had grit our teeth and stuck with Pulis, we would have been promoted back to the Championship in 2001/02.

My understanding, and for once I can claim to be ITK, is that it was Laycock’s casting vote that led to Pulis being appointed.

Wilson almost took us up, but with the drinking culture you're quite right- didn't do anything to rectify it.

Gary Johnson really did pull us up- we were a right mess when he joined and within 2 years- 2 years after going bottom of League One we were top or 2nd in the Championship in December 2007? GJ was far from perfect, but it was an unbelievable ride. Did it in double quick time almost.

On paper, I agree Pulis might have...but the aging players he signed, the neglect of youth...plus his general unpopularity meant it was best all round he left- I remember the happy day he went to Portsmouth, fairly sure it was on the Friday.

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Major Isewater

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9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Wilson almost took us up, but with the drinking culture you're quite right- didn't do anything to rectify it.

Gary Johnson really did pull us up- we were a right mess when he joined and within 2 years- 2 years after going bottom of League One we were top or 2nd in the Championship in December 2007? GJ was far from perfect, but it was an unbelievable ride. Did it in double quick time almost.

On paper, I agree Pulis might have...but the aging players he signed, the neglect of youth...plus his general unpopularity meant it was best all round he left- I remember the happy day he went to Portsmouth, fairly sure it was on the Friday.

And we got compensation.

:clapping:

happy day ! 

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When you come here just for @RedM's reaction... and she doesn't disappoint... ;)

6 hours ago, RedM said:

Not from what I can recall, and you do realise he was interviewed and so nearly appointed as manager here?Yes, SL,right the wrong you made years ago, a huge mistake in your judgement, but I will forgive you if you appoint Moysie, kick MA out and give him his job, see how he likes it! :laughcont:

 

Fwiw, if Lee goes to Swansea/WBA/West Ham, I'd love Moyesy. Him taking a step down the leagues might give him that vigour back.

If not, then I'm still plumping for Big Mick.

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1 minute ago, Septic Peg said:

When you come here just for @RedM's reaction... and she doesn't disappoint... ;)

 

Fwiw, if Lee goes to Swansea/WBA/West Ham, I'd love Moyesy. Him taking a step down the leagues might give him that vigour back.

If not, then I'm still plumping for Big Mick.

Is plumping still illegal in certain parts of the country ? 

There are specialist sites for that aren't there ? 

 

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5 minutes ago, Septic Peg said:

When you come here just for @RedM's reaction... and she doesn't disappoint... ;)

 

Fwiw, if Lee goes to Swansea/WBA/West Ham, I'd love Moyesy. Him taking a step down the leagues might give him that vigour back.

If not, then I'm still plumping for Big Mick.

Won't be WBA (Might be Dean Smith), unlikely to be Swansea. 

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4 hours ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said:

Would love to see him at the Gate, I’d even put him ahead of MM. Top manager with integrity. 

I know Meghan Markle is topical and attractive, but to be honest I don’t think she’d hack it. :cool::cool:

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4 hours ago, JoeAman08 said:

Answer is everyone. Moyes will go to a bigger club though so pointless to talk about

Realistically we all know that, but just for five minutes let this girl dream can’t you. :sad26:

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