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Joe Bryan - Signed for Fulham CONFIRMED

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Just now, BS4 on Tour... said:

 

 

Am I gonna be ‘whooshed’ or isn’t Marbella in Spain...?!

Bob might have failed GCE Geography BS4.

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2 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Well, I went to the same school as JB and at one point I found myself being taught five languages - so it’s very possible that you are correct...

5? Let me guess, French, Spanish, German, Latin? and Bristolian? :) ,  or more likely Greek? 

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5 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Am I gonna be ‘whooshed’ or isn’t Marbella in Spain...?!

 

4 minutes ago, downendcity said:

Marbella Bob? :)

 

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Guess who who didn’t read BS4s post properly

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I got an A at Geography O Level :smartass:

I have been to Spain but thankfully not Marbella (We didn’t have our passports to cross the border)

 

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2 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

How did you know his nickname?!

Not Sideshow Bob?

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If Wolves interest in JB is genuine, If I was Mark Ashton I’d be straight on the phone to them, saying **** Leeds we’ll do a straight swap for Barry Douglas, great player.

Never going to happen mind.

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5 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

If Wolves interest in JB is genuine, If I was Mark Ashton I’d be straight on the phone to them, saying **** Leeds we’ll do a straight swap for Barry Douglas, great player.

Never going to happen mind.

Cant force a player to join a club they dont want to join

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17 minutes ago, RedDave said:

Cant force a player to join a club they dont want to join

Has he told you he doesn’t want to go to Wolves? 

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1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

 

 

:bonkers:

Guess who who didn’t read BS4s post properly

:comando:

I got an A at Geography O Level :smartass:

I have been to Spain but thankfully not Marbella (We didn’t have our passports to cross the border)

 

What border would you need to cross in Spain to go to Marbella?!

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2 hours ago, Wade Wilson said:

RB Leipzig going after him makes a strange  amount of sense. They love a young player (English ones especially these days) and their head scout is English. 

Yes and based on this article Joe will be needing to check his passport: https://nothingbutnewcastle.com/2018/07/blogs/gallowgate-gossip/newcastle-face-competition-for-joe-byran-as-german-clubs-join-chase/

 

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34 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

What border would you need to cross in Spain to go to Marbella?!

Now BS4 

That is a 

 

 

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:thumbsup: :yes:

(I knew you wouldn’t be able to resist :laughcont:)

;)

 

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3 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Well, I went to the same school as JB and at one point I found myself being taught five languages - so it’s very possible that you are correct...

English, American English, Australian English, Bristolian and one other?

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If it's a German club in for him they wont be paying decent money to get him. I think Joe would be in the driving seat to demand the move or risk losing him for nothing. 

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1 hour ago, TheCulturalBomb said:

Would love to see the lad in Germany, could Definitely see him grow as a player there and become something special. Been a while since a Bristol has flown into Germany!

If he does lets hope we get some money for him and he doesn't end up leaving on a bossman like the last one! 

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9 hours ago, bs20ciderarmy said:

So his form didn’t drop second part of the season.

The Freeman situation where half way through the season he makes himself un available is not good for anyone. 

What picture does it paint to fire academy players we will develope you and when you start getting good see your contract out we will keep playing you and walk for nothing to get a better deal for your self.

 

there is no right or wrong imo but I would put pressure on him and his agent to get a move now or sign a 1 year extension with a agreed release clause 

I’m being a bit facetious, but if Joe’s form went off the boil because of not getting a move, or wanting a move in the summer, what excuse are we giving the other 7 or 8 players whose form dropped too after Xmas.

Too easy for posters to join events together and make plausible reasons.

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38 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I’m being a bit facetious, but if Joe’s form went off the boil because of not getting a move, or wanting a move in the summer, what excuse are we giving the other 7 or 8 players whose form dropped too after Xmas.

Too easy for posters to join events together and make plausible reasons.

No excuses whatsoever for form dropping off for wanting a move but seems to me this was a factor in some players including Bryan who I felt dropped his effort before Christmas. From a family that knows him he is a quiet lad who does not mingle too readily; keeps himself to himself in spite of what his public persona may be. He strikes me as one who's mood and sub consciously his effort levels can be affected by relatively minor things and that is not necessarily a slant against him, per sé.

Secondly, the question you pose about the other players will probably always puzzle most of us. Will the final analysis simply be they were burnt out after giving everything in a cup run as Gary J opined?

I hope he does not allow himself the ignominy of running down his contract because his reputation at AG will fall off a cliff; he must not fall into the trap of listening to bad advise along those lines. It would also not go unnoticed by the club that eventually buys him and it could even back fire; sort of a 'buyer beware' signal.

A decent fee and a clean transfer is better for all parties concerned in the medium to long term. Even Joe Bryan who may not receive such a large signing on fee will benefit to the greater degree but will have a far higher reputation and likely a far better and lucrative career going forward. 

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5 hours ago, havanatopia said:

No excuses whatsoever for form dropping off for wanting a move but seems to me this was a factor in some players including Bryan who I felt dropped his effort before Christmas. From a family that knows him he is a quiet lad who does not mingle too readily; keeps himself to himself in spite of what his public persona may be. He strikes me as one who's mood and sub consciously his effort levels can be affected by relatively minor things and that is not necessarily a slant against him, per sé.

Secondly, the question you pose about the other players will probably always puzzle most of us. Will the final analysis simply be they were burnt out after giving everything in a cup run as Gary J opined?

I hope he does not allow himself the ignominy of running down his contract because his reputation at AG will fall off a cliff; he must not fall into the trap of listening to bad advise along those lines. It would also not go unnoticed by the club that eventually buys him and it could even back fire; sort of a 'buyer beware' signal.

A decent fee and a clean transfer is better for all parties concerned in the medium to long term. Even Joe Bryan who may not receive such a large signing on fee will benefit to the greater degree but will have a far higher reputation and likely a far better and lucrative career going forward. 

All this burnout because of the cup is bullshit. We didn't play a full strength team until man utd! 3 games! And we can hardly blame the fa cup!! He had a bust up with the coach in January and went in sulk mode.

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42 minutes ago, frenchred said:

All this burnout because of the cup is bullshit. We didn't play a full strength team until man utd! 3 games! And we can hardly blame the fa cup!! He had a bust up with the coach in January and went in sulk mode.

what 8 or 9 players all went into a sulk?

stop talking shit and blaming Johnson,

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I've suggested that the burn out/mental fatigue following the cup run was a real thing before and been shot down, but I genuinely believe it to be a factor in our poor form after Christmas (note: factor, not sole cause). Imagine you're getting interviewed by the BBC, everyone's talking about you and you're about to play a cup semi at the home ground of the Premier League champions elect and then all of a sudden you're back to playing away at Burton on Tuesday night and nobody gives a shit any more. Footballers are not complex creatures, most of them are not that bright and that is going to have an effect on their mentality. Before you know it, you've lost 4 or 5 games on the bounce, you've slipped off the play off pace just when rivals are ramping it up and it's hard to react. Especially for someone like Joe Bryan who'd kinda 'announced' himself on the national stage against ManUre. I don't think that was the only thing going on at that point, but to say it didn't play a major part is just denying the facts

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1 minute ago, Agard Days Night said:

Nice, isn’t it? 

you really shouldn't have a picture of dopey though, people will accuse you of being a gashead

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55 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

what 8 or 9 players all went into a sulk?

stop talking shit and blaming Johnson,

Not 8 or 9 no you are correct. But certainly more than just Joe. 

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12 minutes ago, frenchred said:

Not 8 or 9 no you are correct. But certainly more than just Joe. 

so it wasn't anything to do with players physically and mentally exhausted, or injury's to key players then, no it mut be a falling out, the same go to answer whenever the club has a bad spell,

its been the go to answer for years now, it must be we employ bad apples all the time, 

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1 hour ago, Monkeh said:

what 8 or 9 players all went into a sulk?

stop talking shit and blaming Johnson,

Is this a group post Monkey?  :)

 

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Just now, Major Isewater said:

He got riled because I saw him as Bambi's Dad . 

Agree with his new avatar, a real WTF .

Oh that’s what you meant as Bambi’s dad. I get it now. A real whoosh moment for me there Major. 

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33 minutes ago, downendcity said:

Is this a group post Monkey?  :)

 

well it was along the lines of another poster who was trying to pin the blame on our bad run after xmas to frank fielding and his red card against wolves

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Joe Bryan has enormous good will because he is a local lad, goes that extra mile with his off the field community activities and is a likeable and slightly quirky character. 

If he is thinking ahead then there will be a load of career opportunities for him after finishing playing especially in the Bristol area.  He might get some extra cash by running down his contract but that will strike out that good will.  Aside from the non-monetary 'reputation' value I think leaving City with good will intact would be better in the long-term financially for him.  Hopefully he will do the right thing.

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38 minutes ago, bcfcnick said:

Joe Bryan has enormous good will because he is a local lad, goes that extra mile with his off the field community activities and is a likeable and slightly quirky character. 

If he is thinking ahead then there will be a load of career opportunities for him after finishing playing especially in the Bristol area.  He might get some extra cash by running down his contract but that will strike out that good will.  Aside from the non-monetary 'reputation' value I think leaving City with good will intact would be better in the long-term financially for him.  Hopefully he will do the right thing.

didn't harm Carey's reputation when he ran his contract down and left on a free 

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49 minutes ago, bcfcnick said:

Joe Bryan has enormous good will because he is a local lad, goes that extra mile with his off the field community activities and is a likeable and slightly quirky character. 

If he is thinking ahead then there will be a load of career opportunities for him after finishing playing especially in the Bristol area.  He might get some extra cash by running down his contract but that will strike out that good will.  Aside from the non-monetary 'reputation' value I think leaving City with good will intact would be better in the long-term financially for him.  Hopefully he will do the right thing.

If he wants move to Germany then the only option might be to let his contract f run down. 

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2 hours ago, chipdawg said:

I've suggested that the burn out/mental fatigue following the cup run was a real thing before and been shot down, but I genuinely believe it to be a factor in our poor form after Christmas (note: factor, not sole cause). Imagine you're getting interviewed by the BBC, everyone's talking about you and you're about to play a cup semi at the home ground of the Premier League champions elect and then all of a sudden you're back to playing away at Burton on Tuesday night and nobody gives a shit any more. Footballers are not complex creatures, most of them are not that bright and that is going to have an effect on their mentality. Before you know it, you've lost 4 or 5 games on the bounce, you've slipped off the play off pace just when rivals are ramping it up and it's hard to react. Especially for someone like Joe Bryan who'd kinda 'announced' himself on the national stage against ManUre. I don't think that was the only thing going on at that point, but to say it didn't play a major part is just denying the facts

I think you are very close to the truth, even on a very low level of sporting activity, a regional 5 a-side tournament, I remember we turned up late, played all our group games and the quarter and semi finals almost back to back and didn't feel at all tired. It wasn't until we went 2 down in the first 3 minutes of the final game, that I and all my team mates, just basically collapsed from exhaustion. I feel that was what our whole team looked like particularly through January and February. 

Oh and the fact Core321 has rubbished your post just confirms that you are talking sense. :) 

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57 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

didn't harm Carey's reputation when he ran his contract down and left on a free 

Yes it did.

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22 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

I think you are very close to the truth, even on a very low level of sporting activity, a regional 5 a-side tournament, I remember we turned up late, played all our group games and the quarter and semi finals almost back to back and didn't feel at all tired. It wasn't until we went 2 down in the first 3 minutes of the final game, that I and all my team mates, just basically collapsed from exhaustion. I feel that was what our whole team looked like particularly through January and February. 

Oh and the fact Core321 has rubbished your post just confirms that you are talking sense. :) 

Yeah, I did take a certain amount of validation from that! 

I think it's mental rather than physical, but it's exactly the same thing; they're not robots and it's difficult to react to adversity if you've been riding the crest of a wave for a while

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It’s often said that a cup run ruins a teams chances in the league. The mistake people make is thinking that it’s a purely physical problem due to extra games. As in many other sporting and non-sporting professions it can be a reaction following a great success. It is the added mental pressure success brings, the massive emotional high often followed by feeling drained and low. 

Its exactly why teams that win titles often find it difficult to replicate success the following season. Most seasons build to a climax gradually but our outstanding success and levels of national media interest pre-Christmas I believe emotionally drained players who were probably surprised themselves by their lack of momentum post Christmas.

The massive adrenaline rush that they had experienced inevitably took its toll. 

Were the same circumstances to prevail this season then those players, I am sure,  will be better prepared for what comes after.

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Can't remember who said it, but JB having a bust up with LJ in January goes along the same lines as something I was told. For the life of me I can't remember whether it was a bust up or JB simply being up front and honest and saying he wanted out

Also heard that Reid effectively resigned at half time against Brentford. Which was roughly 44 minutes after the rest of them that day

 

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