chipdawg Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: I know my place. I look up to everyone but I don't look up to @chipdawg as much as I look up to @Woodsy because he has got innate breeding. Are me and @Woodsy going to have to get measured to see who's biggest? I'm talking about height of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 minute ago, chipdawg said: Are me and @Woodsy going to have to get measured to see who's biggest? I'm talking about height of course... its the girth that counts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 Just now, Monkeh said: its the girth that counts Well I can't speak for Woodsy, but I'm the slimmest I've been in years... Wait, are we still talking about height? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, chipdawg said: Well I can't speak for Woodsy, but I'm the slimmest I've been in years... Wait, are we still talking about height? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueredsupporter Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 hour ago, devoncider said: If this meant to be me, could someone please point out where I've criticised his upbringing? FWIW I am a similar age to Joe, with a similar upbringing. I couldn't give a monkeys where you come from I just wondered if he is a City fan. He may well be, I didn't know. This is all getting rather silly You just added more rubbish to what is as pointed out is a pathetic thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devoncider Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Trueredsupporte said: You just added more rubbish to what is as pointed out is a pathetic thread. appreciate the feedback x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 44 minutes ago, cheshire_red said: JET Ooooh oh . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 hour ago, devoncider said: Agreed - I think we are actually close to making the same point. At age 6 we all love kicking a ball about - this love combined with talent gets you into an academy. As it becomes more of a job and less a hobby some may fall out of love with it - others don't. Neither is right or wrong, just an observation. Would also like to point out I am not at all having a pop at Joe for being intelligent and privately educated because at least one of those applies to me too! You were privately educated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, devoncider said: appreciate the feedback x You just added more rubbish to what is as pointed out is a pathetic thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, Trueredsupporte said: You just added more rubbish to what is as pointed out is a pathetic thread. You just added more rubbish to what is as pointed out is a pathetic thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 38 minutes ago, Monkeh said: he has drive in general to excel in whatever he does, he's that sort of person, if he didn't play football and chose to play cricket he'd be a good up and coming player in county cricket, or if e chose to join a firm as an apprentice he'd quickly move up the ranks because thats just who he is As Joe Bryan was an ex pupil of QEH had numerous opportunities to pursue sport. That he chose football v the schools preferences again highlights his passion (love) for his chosen sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 Just now, Cowshed said: As Joe Bryan was an ex pupil of QEH had numerous opportunities to pursue sport. That he chose football v the schools preferences again highlights his passion (love) for his chosen sport. he would of excelled in what ever profession he chose is my point @Cowshed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devoncider Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Grey Fox said: You were privately educated? In the process of asking for a refund, don't worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, Cowshed said: As Joe Bryan was an ex pupil of QEH had numerous opportunities to pursue sport. That he chose football v the schools preferences again highlights his passion (love) for his chosen sport. Im not knocking him in any way but I recall him saying he wanted to give up the game around 14/15 yrs of age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Monkeh said: he would of excelled in what ever profession he chose is my point @Cowshed It is a hard comparison to make. Many like playing football. Few love it enough to put the hours in to get close to Professional standard. I have a family member in an academy, he has got that far because he is far more driven than the many, and as you go up the pyramid the more driven players are. Its a mindset that is hard to replicate and parallel to normal life because football has physical, psychological, tactical and technical demands on individuals who have to have a very high level of mental toughness to get through it. Those qualities both mental and physical can only be driven and improved upon by desire, passion - Love of doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Im not knocking him in any way but I recall him saying he wanted to give up the game around 14/15 yrs of age I have never read it, but as less than 1% (Micheal Calvin stat) of kids in academies make it to the pro level it says something about Joe Bryans love of football that drove him on ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Cowshed said: I have never read it, but as less than 1% (Micheal Calvin stat) of kids in academies make it to the pro level it says something about Joe Bryans love of football that drove him on ... Maybe, but equally that drive could have been down to an early realisation that football was the most lucrative career he was likely to have should he really get his head down and stick at it. I expect he likes the lifestyle of a pro. footballer - he certainly seemed to be enjoying his exotic holiday a few weeks ago. Unless we know JB personally ( I don't) it's impossible to say what exactly drove him on, but I too have heard he lost interest at 14/15 - if so no doubt he was given assurances then that he had a considerably better than average chance of 'making it', and it would almost certainly be well worth his while, on more than 1 front, to continue. That's where his intelligence would have helped him decide to work at it like hell, whether he truly loved the game or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoc Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said: You’d actually get more chance of a diagnosis at the match than you would at a GO surgery Edit Just rung my Doc and asked the q what he does about patients he bumps into at the match Apparently they follow normal procedure , don’t listen to what you’re explaining or chatting about (Whilst staring at their phone or tablet) and without a word thrusting a prescription at you for alternatively pain killers or anti-biotics before walking off What are they for then? I only know prozac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Badger08 said: If my auntie had wheels, she'd be a bike. or a skateboard...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Maybe, but equally that drive could have been down to an early realisation that football was the most lucrative career he was likely to have should he really get his head down and stick at it. I expect he likes the lifestyle of a pro. footballer - he certainly seemed to be enjoying his exotic holiday a few weeks ago. Unless we know JB personally ( I don't) it's impossible to say what exactly drove him on, but I too have heard he lost interest at 14/15 - if so no doubt he was given assurances then that he had a considerably better than average chance of 'making it', and it would almost certainly be well worth his while, on more than 1 front, to continue. That's where his intelligence would have helped him decide to work at it like hell, whether he truly loved the game or not. Christ mate … That is beyond silly. As a pupil of QEH statistically the least likely lucrative career the lad was likely to have would be football because its one where there is an astronomical failure rate. Its very easy to say what drives football players - extrinsic or intrinsic factors, and normally both. These factors are extremely well studied. What you are suggesting would make Joe Bryan exceptional amongst the truly exceptional to decide at 14 -15 to chance football … Players coming through academies away from technical/tactical/physical key qualities have high levels of self concept, motivation, desire driven by loving what they do, without it the mind will not force the physical etc on = The rest being us in comparison do not possess the mental toughness required for that journey because we in general don't love and want it nearly enough. Probably all too deep for Otib but self belief, the discipline of actions leading to being a pro … It isn't and can't be faked that defies how humans work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, Monkeh said: or a skateboard...... Or an old banger . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Lions Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: he certainly seemed to be enjoying his exotic holiday a few weeks ago. Then was back up the gym at b2a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtonphil mk2 Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Cowshed said: As Joe Bryan was an ex pupil of QEH had numerous opportunities to pursue sport. That he chose football v the schools preferences again highlights his passion (love) for his chosen sport. That’s not totally true he played for the school until he left...He didn’t play rugby but then after y9 you have a choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, Three Lions said: Then was back up the gym at b2a. Not sure I get your point, or your 'rubbish' rating of my post. Did I indicate he didn't deserve a nice holiday after a long season, or that he wouldn't train hard on his return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Lions Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Not sure I get your point, or your 'rubbish' rating of my post. Did I indicate he didn't deserve a nice holiday after a long season, or that he wouldn't train hard on his return? It was a rubbish post. Hes a footballer because he likes the lifestyle!! We would all like the life style but there is a reason we don't get it and Bryan being up in training when he doesnt have to be is part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Three Lions said: It was a rubbish post. Hes a footballer because he likes the lifestyle!! We would all like the life style but there is a reason we don't get it and Bryan being up in training when he doesnt have to be is part of it. Footballers training in off season, aside from standard club pre-season, is nothing phenomenal. Loads of players do similar schemes to Back2Action. Even JET used to use a personal trainer in off-season. Granted, they don't have to do it, but lots of them do. It's pretty normal now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 47 minutes ago, ashtonphil mk2 said: That’s not totally true he played for the school until he left...He didn’t play rugby but then after y9 you have a choice Yes Joe Bryan pursued a choice while being at a school that provides great academic and sporting possibility. Football clearly has always been a driving passion in his life. There are posts in this thread suggesting otherwise. 20 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Footballers training in off season, aside from standard club pre-season, is nothing phenomenal. Loads of players do similar schemes to Back2Action. Even JET used to use a personal trainer in off-season. Granted, they don't have to do it, but lots of them do. It's pretty normal now. In other threads Bobby Reids extra training is used as an example of how he has worked at his game. Loads don't. The motivated do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Three Lions said: It was a rubbish post. Hes a footballer because he likes the lifestyle!! We would all like the life style but there is a reason we don't get it and Bryan being up in training when he doesnt have to be is part of it. I didn't say that would be his only reasoning, but as you've chosen to home in on that part of my post as particularly 'rubbish' I'll answer it. I've no doubt growing up in the Academy, and therefore seeing at close hand the life styles ( and holidays, cars etc.) of the pros. would have some influence on a 14/15 year old. Even if he didn't love football per se, he was naturally talented and would have been intelligent enough to see it was not only a potentially very lucrative way to make a living, but also a very attractive lifestyle in prospect, and that would be a strong incentive (emphasised strongly by Dad and his coaches, no doubt) for any teenager having temporary doubts about carrying on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 ANYWAY......LJ has confirmed there has been no bids for Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 minute ago, RedRaw said: ANYWAY......LJ has confirmed there has been no bids for Joe Did he also confirm that Joe prefers knitting to football ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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