View from the Dolman Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 The Post initially said we couldn't and then said we could: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/famara-diedhiou-bristol-city-ban-1597094 There are still no written reasons available on the FA site. Nor indeed anything to say he was found guilty. Nor is he listed as suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gratbot said: Where were you in April?? The whole world was mocking Harry Kane for a good couple of weeks because he swore on his daughter's life that he touched Eriksen's cross/shot on the way in. I don't think he did touch it. 2 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: I don’t think it’s desperate. There is no video footage. And fam says he hasn’t done it . I would do the same if I was his boss. Wouldn’t you They haven't given him a 6 game ban without any evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Super said: I don't think he did touch it. They haven't given him a 6 game ban without any evidence. Granted. But we can’t see it anywhere. And now we can appeal. You have to back your player surely. Especially if he says he’s innocent. If we lose the appeal then it will be more games. It just doesn’t sit right with me . Let’s see the incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, Super said: I don't think he did touch it. They haven't given him a 6 game ban without any evidence. All they need to do is present the evidence then. Transparency would sort this out. Unless of course they are just taking one persons word as gospel on this and it can’t be one of the match officials or he would of been sent off there are then just like the leeds kid was. All very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Just now, milo1111 said: All they need to do is present the evidence then. Transparency would sort this out. Unless of course they are just taking one persons word as gospel on this and it can’t be one of the match officials or he would of been sent off there are then just like the leeds kid was. All very strange. Is there something in their articles that protects the FA from a player resorting to the law? I was just thinking that if he is that adamant and Famara was to sue the FA for defamation of character for example - could he do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Is there something in their articles that protects the FA from a player resorting to the law? I was just thinking that if he is that adamant and Famara was to sue the FA for defamation of character for example - could he do that? Well when it first came out . Pretty sure City said they would be consulting there legal team. And I expect SL and Bristol City have quite a good one . Remember the rovers squirts backing down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 If he has done it he deserves a ban (most will agree with that regarding whatever player it is). The FA have shown no evidence, no images, no video or haven't even said "we have an overwhelming amount of people saying he did it", it is as if they literally can do what they want and however they want to with nobody to answer to - that cannot be right. Show everyone the evidence and everyone can just move on - if they don't have anything then clear him. Simple really, but not for the dinosaurs at the FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 If plenty of players would have seen it, they would have went mental at the time imo. Something just isn't right with the whole situation at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Is there something in their articles that protects the FA from a player resorting to the law? I was just thinking that if he is that adamant and Famara was to sue the FA for defamation of character for example - could he do that? See what you did there, very subtle...But if the bloke swears on the lives of his kids, then that's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 minute ago, 1bristolcity said: See what you did there, very subtle...But if the bloke swears on the lives of his kids, then that's good enough for me. Yep sure the FA will drop the charge after hearing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 23 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Is there something in their articles that protects the FA from a player resorting to the law? I was just thinking that if he is that adamant and Famara was to sue the FA for defamation of character for example - could he do that? Not sure. He could possibly but it would be hard for him to play in this country if going down that route. the whole thing is bizarre. No one saw anything at the time. There was no reaction from the players you get if something like that happens. The officials didn’t do anything and there seems to be no video evidence but yet here we are.... with no real explanation from the fa.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 As I said back in May, they are dinosaurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 21, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, hodge said: I thought we couldn't? Myth number 1 1 hour ago, Selred said: This is a club who thinks we can play in two badges, which we can't. Myth number 2 Both mistakes originated from the Bristol Post and was taken as gospel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, phantom said: Myth number 1 Myth number 2 Both mistakes originated from the Bristol Post and was taken as gospel And your source is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 53 minutes ago, Super said: Yep sure the FA will drop the charge after hearing that. I wasn't alluding to the FA dropping anything, sarcy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, sh1t_ref_again said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44563161 we are appealing according to BBC I’m not too sure how appealing we are (although it’s nice of the BBC to say so), but it does seem that we are to appeal the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I’m not too sure how appealing we are (although it’s nice of the BBC to say so), but it does seem that we are to appeal the decision. You should know everyone loves us now after beating Man u (apart from the ***** at the FA who are Man U supporters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 This whole thing is crazy. First nothing happens after the alleged incident. Then, weeks later, he’s banned. Now, even more weeks later, City are going to appeal. I’ve raised this point before, but is there some sort of space / time distortion affecting City? As time can appear to move faster or slower to us relative to others in a different part of space-time, it must be the only answe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 40 minutes ago, pongo88 said: This whole thing is crazy. First nothing happens after the alleged incident. Then, weeks later, he’s banned. Now, even more weeks later, City are going to appeal. I’ve raised this point before, but is there some sort of space / time distortion affecting City? As time can appear to move faster or slower to us relative to others in a different part of space-time, it must be the only answe There`s not been any pressure to do things quickly though has there? Far better to get all your evidence/legal advice absolutely bang up rather than rushing in half prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Red Right Hand said: There`s not been any pressure to do things quickly though has there? Far better to get all your evidence/legal advice absolutely bang up rather than rushing in half prepared. There’s only about 6 weeks until the start of the season. If things progress at the current rate the appeal will be heard after the suspension has finished. As for the evidence, where is it? If there is any, why did it take so long for him to be charged and subsequently suspended? Consequently, if there is any, it shouldn’t take weeks to decide whether or not to challenge it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Has Wally taken over?? These things take time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 5 hours ago, sh1t_ref_again said: ...we are appealing according to BBC I think we are very appealing....Bristol’s a great place to live, the gateway to the south west, lovely countryside very close by, good motorway networks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I think we are very appealing....Bristol’s a great place to live, the gateway to the south west, lovely countryside very close by, good motorway networks.... Plus it has me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redapple Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 3 hours ago, phantom said: Myth number 1 Myth number 2 Both mistakes originated from the Bristol Post and was taken as gospel It amazes me that people believe as gospel just because it’s in a newspaper. These days it’s more unlikely to have any truth attached to it if it’s in black & white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 4 hours ago, wood_red said: ....Show everyone the evidence and everyone can just move on - if they don't have anything then clear him. Simple really, but not for the dinosaurs at the FA. It’s very common to hear the FA referred to as ‘dinosaurs’ - it’s a lazy and ill-informed description.....for example, just a couple of months ago the FA appointed Phillippa Kaufman QC and Raj Parker to their judicial panel...which deals with disciplinary matters such as the one being discussed on this thread. They are both leading lawyers described as amongst the best of their generation, and their specialisms include being very experienced in working on matters involving sport in general and football in particular. For example Raj has worked on the Hillsborough enquiry, sexual abuse within football cases, the suggestion of corruption within FIFA etc and lots of legal processes involving other sports. The committees and panels within the FA have changed immeasurably over the years....’dinosaurs’ is an inappropriate term these days....but convenient to trot out when decisions and rulings are not popular... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Plus it has me. I wondered why Andre Gray and Dwight Gayle turned us down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Ivorguy said: As I said back in May, they are dinosaurs Incorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 So on those valid points why haven't they released any of the so called evidence in this case (to anyone it seems)?? The personnel may have changed but their actions on these types of cases are still the same as when it WAS ran by dinosaurs, so I see no reason why they shouldn't be called dinosaurs if they don't seem to have changed.... 6 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: The committees and panels within the FA have changed immeasurably over the years....’dinosaurs’ is an inappropriate term these days....but convenient to trot out when decisions and rulings are not popular... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, wood_red said: So on those valid points why haven't they released any of the so called evidence in this case (to anyone it seems)?? The personnel may have changed but their actions on these types of cases are still the same as when it WAS ran by dinosaurs, so I see no reason why they shouldn't be called dinosaurs if they don't seem to have changed.... The FA’s judicial panel would not hand out a six game ban with no evidence, they wouldn’t act retrospectively just based on hearsay especially as the panel includes top lawyers experienced in dealing with football cases....they have no obligation to make evidence public knowledge, just as law courts don’t release evidence involved in all the cases on which they pass judgement...if we have a right to appeal then more will be revealed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 That is all good and well, but if the FA want to be thought of as being modern and not dinosaurs, surely they should be communicating and providing valid evidence at least with the people and clubs they have banned. We , or any other clubs, should not have to go through an appeal process just because we want to see evidence of an offence (that nobody has seen). This isn't a straight forward case as it doesn't seem to be on any match video evidence like a bad tackle on your average Premier game with 50 cameras. To ban someone how they have seems ridiculous and the way it has been handled is crazy - and regardless of how the FA has changed, they have come across as dinosaurs imo, just purely on the basis of "we can do what we want", which is how they have always worked. A Governing Body who doesn't seem to have to answer to anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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