Maggersno1Fan Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 If anyone interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Didn’t realise standing was only banned in the top two divisions. So IF them over the road did get promoted to the championship, what the hell would they do about a ground?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggersno1Fan Posted May 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said: Didn’t realise standing was only banned in the top two divisions. So IF them over the road did get promoted to the championship, what the hell would they do about a ground?! No there was a shocker tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Net Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said: Didn’t realise standing was only banned in the top two divisions. So IF them over the road did get promoted to the championship, what the hell would they do about a ground?! I think that promoted clubs are allowed 3 seasons to comply with all seater ruling. Not sure if tents are allowed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said: Didn’t realise standing was only banned in the top two divisions. So IF them over the road did get promoted to the championship, what the hell would they do about a ground?! Never watch Watchdog but it happened to be on the tv so I was interested in the safe standing feature. They said Shrewsbury had some safe standing installed for next season, but IF they get promoted in a few days time they won’t be able to use it. Regarding the Gas, don’t teams in this situation get a bit of leeway if they have plans to relocate or redevelop? All they got to do is dig out their pie in the sky plans and they are covered...for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggersno1Fan Posted May 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 I thought Burton were in a similar situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said: Didn’t realise standing was only banned in the top two divisions. So IF them over the road did get promoted to the championship, what the hell would they do about a ground?! Put out a few fold up chairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkhamred Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, RedM said: Never watch Watchdog but it happened to be on the tv so I was interested in the safe standing feature. They said Shrewsbury had some safe standing installed for next season, but IF they get promoted in a few days time they won’t be able to use it. Regarding the Gas, don’t teams in this situation get a bit of leeway if they have plans to relocate or redevelop? All they got to do is dig out their pie in the sky plans and they are covered...for a while They got that wrong about Shrewsbury. Under current rules they could use it for three seasons before having to go all seater. But hopefully things will change before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 But if a club is already all seater because more than three seasons in top two leagues, they cannot revert to standing areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkhamred Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: But if a club is already all seater because more than three seasons in top two leagues, they cannot revert to standing areas. That is right but I believe that Shrewsbury are not technically an all seater stadium because they were not forced to go all seater having not met this 3 year criteria in the past.. @Blagdon red will be able to explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, formerly known as ivan said: Didn’t realise standing was only banned in the top two divisions. So IF them over the road did get promoted to the championship, what the hell would they do about a ground?! * They’d be ****** as Wally would have to put up or shut up, and we all know (apart from them who lap everything they are told up) what would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, formerly known as ivan said: Didn’t realise standing was only banned in the top two divisions. So IF them over the road did get promoted to the championship, what the hell would they do about a ground?! more plastic chairs evolution not revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Brentford is standing in the away end. So can’t be entirely banned, promoted team or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, In the Net said: I think that promoted clubs are allowed 3 seasons to comply with all seater ruling...... *Conspiracy theory* - so that’s why Burton got relegated in the season just finished....?! With a ‘standing on three sides’ stadium they’d have been fooked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 19 minutes ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: Brentford is standing in the away end. So can’t be entirely banned, promoted team or not. Brentford have received dispensation from the FA as they are currently building a new all-seater ground. Cardiff had the same dispensation for Ninian Park when they were building their new lego stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 The 3 year rule (so I understand) doesn't mean you have to be in the championship for 3 consecutive seasons, if you got promoted and survived 2 seasons before relegation you would then only have 1 year to go all seater if you then got promoted again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 Safe standing is a lot safer than standing in a seated stand, everyone can see that and you don't need any report to tell you. In this day and age I am more surprised they haven't brought in on the spot fines for standing in seated areas due to "health and safety"!!! It is safer, people want it, clubs want it, it would stop potential arguments when some fans want to stand and others want to sit. An absolute no brainer for anyone with any common sense, yet not here in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 Big piece on the Guardian's site about Shrewsbury's new rail seat area https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/24/shrewsbury-safe-standing-league-one-rail-seating-rotherham-play-off-final This bit seemed odd though "The seats at Shrewsbury are unlikely to be used during matches..." Anyone know why this is the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 15 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said: Didn’t realise standing was only banned in the top two divisions. So IF them over the road did get promoted to the championship, what the hell would they do about a ground?! They wouldn't stand for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkhamred Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said: Big piece on the Guardian's site about Shrewsbury's new rail seat area https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/24/shrewsbury-safe-standing-league-one-rail-seating-rotherham-play-off-final This bit seemed odd though "The seats at Shrewsbury are unlikely to be used during matches..." Anyone know why this is the case? They will probably be locked up - will stop problems with people standing on the seats . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 24 minutes ago, Barkhamred said: They will probably be locked up - will stop problems with people standing on the seats . Ah...my mistake. When they said the seats wouldn't be used I read it as meaning the entire area would not be used. Obviously you're correct and the seats will be locked up so technically won't be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 10 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: Big piece on the Guardian's site about Shrewsbury's new rail seat area https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/24/shrewsbury-safe-standing-league-one-rail-seating-rotherham-play-off-final This bit seemed odd though "The seats at Shrewsbury are unlikely to be used during matches..." Anyone know why this is the case? The football at Shrewsbury is so boring it only attracts poor crowds - even the man in the coracle has disappeared. Seriously, I think the article is trying to say that the 'saets' will be locked up. Also from the same article, and for those that aren't aware, the Jon Darch mentioned below is, in fact, Blagdon Red, from this parish, and, it would seem from the highlighted section, quite possibly the founder of our own 'Forza and Ultras'. “We spoke with Jon Darch and thought this could work for us.” Darch is the evangelist of safe standing. He says he is “someone who hates things that are illogical” and that denying fans the choice to stand at football grounds is one such thing. For the past decade he has devoted his life to the subject, driving a van fitted with a small sample of rail seating up and down the country. He is at the launch, in aviator shades and a fawn shirt looking like a lower-ranking member of the Corleone family. “It’s backbreaking stuff, I can tell you,” he says of his passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC&T Board Members Blagdon red Posted May 24, 2018 SC&T Board Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said: The football at Shrewsbury is so boring it only attracts poor crowds - even the man in the coracle has disappeared. Seriously, I think the article is trying to say that the 'saets' will be locked up. Also from the same article, and for those that aren't aware, the Jon Darch mentioned below is, in fact, Blagdon Red, from this parish, and, it would seem from the highlighted section, quite possibly the founder of our own 'Forza and Ultras'. “We spoke with Jon Darch and thought this could work for us.” Darch is the evangelist of safe standing. He says he is “someone who hates things that are illogical” and that denying fans the choice to stand at football grounds is one such thing. For the past decade he has devoted his life to the subject, driving a van fitted with a small sample of rail seating up and down the country. He is at the launch, in aviator shades and a fawn shirt looking like a lower-ranking member of the Corleone family. “It’s backbreaking stuff, I can tell you,” he says of his passion. Yeah, evidently I'm one of the mafia now! As someone above said, Watchdog were wrong about Shrewsbury not being able to use the rail seats if they go up. As others have said, they can do so for 3 seasons, by which time the rules will almost certainly have changed. They've been able to put in rail seats because they are not subject to the all-seater legislation. They built their new ground as an all-seater 11 years ago by choice, not because the law required it. Clubs are normally required to go all-seater after 3 seasons in the Championship, but the govt does not have to issue a "seating order" and can exercise discretion. They did this for Cardiff when they were building their new stadium (and so Cardiff played for 5 seasons with terraces at Ninian Park in the Championship) and they are doing so again for Brentford, who will start their 5th season with terraces in the Championship in August (and will probably play a 6th in 2019/20, assuming they stay in the division, as Lionel Road is unlikely to finished before then). STFC are not being allowed to use the rail seats as seats for football games (not that they'd want to), but will probably use them as seats for a Lionel Richie concert that they have coming up in a week or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 Ed Balls the only person named after two bodily parts . ( Tony Hancock., is four parts ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 Ed Balls , what Flinty does best . ( I'll stop now . The artistic flow has finished ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 5 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Ed Balls the only person named after two bodily parts . ( Tony Hancock., is four parts ) Shouldn't that be three Major? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Slacker said: Shouldn't that be three Major? I make it 4,2 Ed’s and 2 balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Slacker said: Shouldn't that be three Major? Good point. A ball or a pair still constitutes a bodily ' part ' for me . I lean towards two bodily parts . We could take this to a vote ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 I don’t get their argument about safety, I’ve just found this pic I took at the Etihad. We were front row upper, the seats in front were very low and far more dangerous and easy to trip over. Yet that’s ok. Someone standing with a support and dedicated seat isn’t. I hope they see sense soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 On 25/05/2018 at 00:30, Blagdon red said: They've been able to put in rail seats because they are not subject to the all-seater legislation. They built their new ground as an all-seater 11 years ago by choice, not because the law required it. Clubs are normally required to go all-seater after 3 seasons in the Championship, but the govt does not have to issue a "seating order" and can exercise discretion. They did this for Cardiff when they were building their new stadium (and so Cardiff played for 5 seasons with terraces at Ninian Park in the Championship) and they are doing so again for Brentford, who will start their 5th season with terraces in the Championship in August (and will probably play a 6th in 2019/20, assuming they stay in the division, as Lionel Road is unlikely to finished before then). When we were building the new South Stand, (we weren't in the Championship) I thought the rules were that you couldn't revert to standing from an all seater stadium. I had just assumed things had moved on - Shrewsbury's being more tolerable etc. It would be interesting to see how quickly the consensus of parliament and the football league will change, I am sure it will at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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