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1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Why?

Personally not keen on foreign betting companies as of recently. Might not be one, could be Thatchers, but will be another step towards death by a thousand cuts if it is.

Lancer Scott were harmless.

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It's a shirt sponsor. Who cares what it is as long as it's not offensive and they offer the best deal? It doesn't make the club. We're not changing our shirt colours. It's just a different couple of words on the front. 

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3 minutes ago, Badger08 said:

Oh god, this forum is going to go into meltdown! 

Lee Johnson / Frankies fault. 

 

 

Don't think so, it's not that big of a deal. I can't remember many of our sponsors aside from Thatchers. 

Apart from a few iconic ones like Liverpool and Carlsberg or Crown Paints or Newcastle United and Newcastle Brown not that many stick in my memory.

Betting site doesn't bother me particularly, money is important in this situation. 

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Ipswich also now have betting related shirt sponsor, like it or not, they are becoming the norm.

Personally, I don't mind if it is a betting outfit on the shirt, but I would rather it was a unique deal rather than someone like dafabet who sponsor lots of teams, it would be like the autowindscreens days again when they sponsored us and Birmingham.

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9 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

Personally not keen on foreign betting companies as of recently. Might not be one, could be Thatchers, but will be another step towards death by a thousand cuts if it is.

Lancer Scott were harmless.

I guess it comes down to whether you want the club to genuinely compete for the Premier League. If so you need to maximise your commercial revenue.

I imagine the revenue Lancer Scott can offer for sponsorship is peanuts compared to companies like this. 

People moan about how it’s not fair that other ‘small’ clubs have had their slice of the pie and we haven’t - well it’s areas like this that only now we are waking up to. 

The likes of you and me contribute a very small chunk of revenue to the club. 

Simply put if we want to sign better players and bring in more quality, our revenue needs to increase. We’re not a charity and shouldn’t rely on handouts from Steve. He won’t always be here and at some point we may just have to stand on our own two feet. 

If I’m not mistaken, Huddersfield, Swansea, Burnley, Leicester, Cardiff and others who have leapfrogged us have all at some point had Asian shirt sponsors (most involving betting). 

Big money. 

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54 minutes ago, Spoons said:

Thatcher's Gold ! International alright.

Indeed it is! Bought a pint in sunny Western Australia a couple of years ago. Thatchers would great across the front of the new City shirt.

Personally I don't have any morale issues if it's a betting company. I would if it was a porn company tho........

 

 

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1 minute ago, Robbored said:

Indeed it is! Bought a pint in sunny Western Australia a couple of years ago. Thatchers would great across the front of the new City shirt.

Personally I don't have any morale issues if it's a betting company. I would if it was a porn company tho........

 

 

On the subject of morale, a porn company would definitely get it up!

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1 minute ago, Robbored said:

Indeed it is! Bought a pint in sunny Western Australia a couple of years ago. Thatchers would great across the front of the new City shirt.

Personally I don't have any morale issues if it's a betting company. I would if it was a porn company tho........

 

 

You dirty old man!

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1 minute ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

If it’s a Chinese company, definitely. It’s a lucky colour in China. 

Helped with their choice no doubt.

If it is an Asian bookmaker, this opens our club up to untold exposure in Asia, who are all football mad. 

This could lead to much more than a new shirt sponsor.

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1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said:

On the subject....I’m not sure I understand the moral objection to betting companies.

Is it because kids see it?

If so, how is it any different to having an alcohol sponsor? Or a credit card company? 

We've had betting and alcohol based sponsors on the LED boards so it's not like it's much of a new development.

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2 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

On the subject....I’m not sure I understand the moral objection to betting companies.

Is it because kids see it?

If so, how is it any different to having an alcohol sponsor? Or a credit card company? 

Had too many bad experiences!

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24 minutes ago, Taz said:

New company offer X amount to be main sponsor. Club replies that's great, but we have a sponsorship which hasn't run it's course yet, and it would cost XX amount to cancel the sponsorship.

New company then say that's fine, we'll offer you the original X and then the XX on top to cancel the contract so you're not losing out at all. The club then receives XXX amount for the sponsorship.

My god the new sponsor is Pornhub :rolleyes:

Can we have "ANY HOLE'S A GOAL" flash up on the big screens and the pitch boards when we score?

PLEASE!

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2 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

We've had betting and alcohol based sponsors on the LED boards so it's not like it's much of a new development.

Exactly. But betting outrage seems to be growing traction (not just here I must stress). 

Seems to be the new fad thing for the morally outraged to moan about. 

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4 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

On the subject....I’m not sure I understand the moral objection to betting companies.

Is it because kids see it?

If so, how is it any different to having an alcohol sponsor? Or a credit card company? 

Or an insurance company which offers payouts based upon certain events happening - a bookie in all but name. The only difference is you might not recreationally buy insurance.

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1 minute ago, 29AR said:

Or an insurance company which offers payouts based upon certain events happening - a bookie in all but name

Yep. But no one would bat an eyelid if it was More Than on the shirt. 

I can only assume it stems from the wider societal ‘not my fault’ culture whereby when you lose money gambling it’s the nasty betting company’s fault for taking your money and enticing you in with the bright lights....!

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13 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

I guess it comes down to whether you want the club to genuinely compete for the Premier League. If so you need to maximise your commercial revenue.

I imagine the revenue Lancer Scott can offer for sponsorship is peanuts compared to companies like this. 

People moan about how it’s not fair that other ‘small’ clubs have had their slice of the pie and we haven’t - well it’s areas like this that only now we are waking up to. 

The likes of you and me contribute a very small chunk of revenue to the club. 

Simply put if we want to sign better players and bring in more quality, our revenue needs to increase. We’re not a charity and shouldn’t rely on handouts from Steve. He won’t always be here and at some point we may just have to stand on our own two feet. 

If I’m not mistaken, Huddersfield, Swansea, Burnley, Leicester, Cardiff and others who have leapfrogged us have all at some point had Asian shirt sponsors (most involving betting). 

Big money. 

Yeah that's fair enough, I agree with it all.

Simply the moral implications of it being a betting company worry me.

It must be massive if they've paid for the remainder of Lancer Scott's deal to get them out of the picture, and if it ends up meaning we can buy better players then it's hard to argue against really.

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1 minute ago, ZiderEyed said:

Yeah that's fair enough, I agree with it all.

Simply the moral implications of it being a betting company worry me.

It must be massive if they've paid for the remainder of Lancer Scott's deal to get them out of the picture, and if it ends up meaning we can buy better players then it's hard to argue against really.

That’s what I don’t get though - what are the moral implications of it being a betting company? 

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4 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Yep. But no one would bat an eyelid if it was More Than on the shirt. 

I can only assume it stems from the wider societal ‘not my fault’ culture whereby when you lose money gambling it’s the nasty betting company’s fault for taking your money and enticing you in with the bright lights....!

Precisely. In the late 1800's early 1900's people used to buy short term 1 day, 1 week, 1 month life insurance policies on the monarch's head for instance, if they died they got a pay out if they didn't they lost their premium / 'wager'. Then the law was changed to effectively make those contracts void. But I personally have never drawn a distinction between betting and insuring - except where I have to buy insurance to drive of course. It's one of the same in my mind. 

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2 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

On the subject....I’m not sure I understand the moral objection to betting companies.

Is it because kids see it?

If so, how is it any different to having an alcohol sponsor? Or a credit card company? 

Quite.

It's a shirt sponsorship which is generating a shed load of money - god knows how much if the Lancer Scott deal has been cancelled because of it.

People are moaning that the club acts like a corner shop, and then moan when (if) a betting company comes in and turns us into (potentially) a department store.

Football is now a commercial business, and if a (potential) Asian Betting company wants to shower us in money for advertising their brand, then so be it.

Kids see betting adverts whilst the football is on telly anyway, what's the issue?

If this means we have the cash to entice bigger name players here, then I'm all for it.

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