Coxy27 Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Super said: Benteke left out by Belgium. He would get into our squad. I certainly wouldn't have him in the England squad. He's had a horrible season, 3 goals in 30 games. As for the Welbeck comparison, he's scored 10 goals in 43 games, many of which came from a wider position. Welbeck has always been a consistent performer for England, and whilst he isn't great, he covers all the positions across the forward line, and always gives maximum effort. I'd have Welbeck over Benteke all day long at this world cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishy Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, Phileas Fogg said: Southgate left out Shelvey Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Coxy27 said: I certainly wouldn't have him in the England squad. He's had a horrible season, 3 goals in 30 games. As for the Welbeck comparison, he's scored 10 goals in 43 games, many of which came from a wider position. Welbeck has always been a consistent performer for England, and whilst he isn't great, he covers all the positions across the forward line, and always gives maximum effort. I'd have Welbeck over Benteke all day long at this world cup. I certainly wouldn't, Benteke would offer something different from the bench whilst I agree though he isn't great he is a far better choice than Welbeck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 50 minutes ago, Super said: I certainly wouldn't, Benteke would offer something different from the bench whilst I agree though he isn't great he is a far better choice than Welbeck. I think it depends on what you want from forwards. I agree about taking a big forward has it's merits. I think we see Kane as the 'big man' even though he's obviously not a conventional one but clearly you'd choose him over Benteke if it was either/or. As for the others and their quality.. Vardy for his aggression, tenacity and goals, Rashford for raw pace and Welbeck for versatility. Welbeck has been very good for England and he will run all day. I can see why we picked him. I don't think we necessarily need a 5th forward because we have a few players who could fill in if necessary.. Lindard/Alli could play a withdrawn forward role and Sterling could too or play higher up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 hour ago, fishy said: Terrifyingly, how good are Germany going to be if they can afford to leave out Sane? Can you ever imagine an English manager leaving out a player like that? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44355950 Utter madness. I see Ozil is in the squad. They must have a better alternative than him? He must play a lot better for his country than his club. I mean, surely ze Germans don't pick on reputation alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Spain Neymar Messi Poland and Milik D'oh! Should read: Spain Neymar Quarters Poland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIDER NOT CIDRE Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Surely you can’t have been that optimistic in 2012, 2014 or 2016.. even 2010 I remember the expectations being low. Unfortunately I was; blindly optimistic... 2016 was the last straw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 4, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Nathandao said: Just read that Sané has been dropped from the Germany squad. Can anyone confirm it? Sky just put some interesting stats up about him Germany record 12 games 6 starts 592 minutes played 0 goals 1 assist May go some ways to explain the decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Super said: Benteke left out by Belgium. He would get into our squad. No he wouldn’t 4 hours ago, Super said: Certainly better than Welbeck. No he isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 I don't think the stadiums are quite ready yet... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-44317024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, JasonM88 said: No he wouldn’t No he isn’t. Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 how do you list things vertically, I only seem to be able to write things in a line thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 10 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Might be made to eat my words here but I don’t really rate Belgium at all. Considering the talent they have they just don’t look a particularly good team and I can’t see them doing that well. Quarters at best - and we will beat them in the group. Agree, they are too Premier league in their make up. Premier league style football ( Man City excepted) doesn’t win tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Cunnyfunt said: Utter madness. I see Ozil is in the squad. They must have a better alternative than him? He must play a lot better for his country than his club. I mean, surely ze Germans don't pick on reputation alone? Clearly not, otherwise one assumes Sane would have been in the squad. Rest assured Joachim Low knows exactly what he's doing and Germany will surely go deep into this World Cup. My pick to win it in fact. As for us, a lot of people saying expectations are low. But given how piss easy our draw is we really should be making the quarters; even with a really inexperienced squad. Fully expect us to muck that up though and either go out in the group or round of 16. Let's be honest; the last two tournaments have been appalling from an England perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Josh Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 03/06/2018 at 21:01, daored said: Just over a week to go until World Cup starts, who do you predict will? Win the World Cup Top goalscorer How far with England go Surpruse package / player or country Germany Griezmann 1/4 finals Croatia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 When was the last time we won an opening group game in a major tournament? Was it Tunisia in '98? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: When was the last time we won an opening group game in a major tournament? Was it Tunisia in '98? 2006 Paraguay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 5, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Super said: 2006 Paraguay? Correct @Super Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, phantom said: Correct @Super That draw with America has to be one of the most embarrassing in recent history. I can handle the odd Costa Rica, but to draw with that lot, jesus. Clint ******* Dempsey scored. Did Rob Green ever recover from that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: That draw with America has to be one of the most embarrassing in recent history. I can handle the odd Costa Rica, but to draw with that lot, jesus. Clint ******* Dempsey scored. Did Rob Green ever recover from that? The draw with Algeria was worse I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North London Red Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: That draw with America has to be one of the most embarrassing in recent history. I can handle the odd Costa Rica, but to draw with that lot, jesus. Clint ******* Dempsey scored. Did Rob Green ever recover from that? 22 minutes ago, Super said: The draw with Algeria was worse I reckon. The US weren't a bad side - for years they were hovering between 10th and 25th in the world rankings, which is only a few places below our average ranking. The Algeria game wasn't pretty but it's interesting to note that in the last world cup, Germany also drew 0-0 with them after 90 minutes (only beating them in extra time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 19 hours ago, Portland Bill said: Agree, they are too Premier league in their make up. Premier league style football ( Man City excepted) doesn’t win tournaments. Belgium have a very talented squad. They omitted Radja Nainggolan for starters (that's Sane esq). Their downfall ultimately will be Martinez I feel. I don't think he's a good enough coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cunnyfunt said: Belgium have a very talented squad. They omitted Radja Nainggolan for starters (that's Sane esq). Their downfall ultimately will be Martinez I feel. I don't think he's a good enough coach. 100% this. I see Chadli got into the squad which was a bizarre choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Super said: 100% this. I see Chadli got into the squad which was a bizarre choice. Absolutely! He really tore things up at WBA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 5, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Belgium - decent individuals but nowhere near a force as a team Weren't they supposed to be the big threat at the last tournament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCyder Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 On 03/06/2018 at 21:01, daored said: Just over a week to go until World Cup starts, who do you predict will? Win the World Cup Top goalscorer How far with England go Surpruse package / player or country Brazil Jesus Last 16 Colombia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathandao Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 21 hours ago, phantom said: Sky just put some interesting stats up about him Germany record 12 games 6 starts 592 minutes played 0 goals 1 assist May go some ways to explain the decision? I saw that too, even so he seems too good to leave out, even if his international form isn't as good as his club form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Some of you might find this interesting. The Guardian have a guide to every player. World Cup 2018: complete guide to all 736 players https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2018/jun/05/world-cup-2018-complete-guide-players-ratings-goals-caps?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 Actually looking forward to this now, certainly more than the football season! Anyone feel the same?! Where's that flag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournered Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 On 03/06/2018 at 21:01, daored said: Just over a week to go until World Cup starts, who do you predict will? Win the World Cup Top goalscorer How far with England go Surpruse package / player or country England Kane Winners England After months of looking forward to enjoying a WC with no expectations for England, I've gone into full WC muppet mode... no doubt crying into my Thatchers after a penalty shoot-out defeat to Poland in R2.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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