BessexRED Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Guesswork again. They've got no idea. They're not far off with this in fairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desso Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, BessexRED said: They're not far off with this in fairness. Do you know some thing we don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BessexRED Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Desso said: Do you know some thing we don't? Not necessarily. We want Marriott and have done since the start of the summer, he's back from his holiday next week so I expect it to hot up. Us or Derby, depends on what happens with Vydra and when though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, BessexRED said: Not necessarily. We want Marriott and have done since the start of the summer, he's back from his holiday next week so I expect it to hot up. Us or Derby, depends on what happens with Vydra and when though. Peterborough back in training today , I’m sure Marriott hasn’t got an extra week off ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Expensive ‘gamble’ and about 2 years too late and will pay 5 or 6 million more than we needed Ahhhhhhh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BessexRED Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 22 minutes ago, Cov 77 said: Peterborough back in training today , I’m sure Marriott hasn’t got an extra week off ! Go and see if you can see him in the pre-season pictures mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, BessexRED said: They're not far off with this in fairness. Doesn't mean they know anything. We've been linked with him for ages. Our strikers on his way, local paper guesses the striker we've been most heavily linked with is coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BessexRED Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Doesn't mean they know anything. We've been linked with him for ages. Our strikers on his way, local paper guesses the striker we've been most heavily linked with is coming in. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 31 minutes ago, BessexRED said: Go and see if you can see him in the pre-season pictures mate. They are resigned to losing him then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 51 minutes ago, BessexRED said: Go and see if you can see him in the pre-season pictures mate. That's him on the right isn't it? Scruffy bugger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Expensive ‘gamble’ and about 2 years too late and will pay 5 or 6 million more than we needed Ahhhhhhh well And yet on another thread you object to bringing in Willis and Eisa on the grounds of them not being yet at the standard of those who they would replace... It’s either buy ‘ready to go’ at higher prices or buy those who need a little polishing (and probably more time) for less. You seem to object to both approaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BessexRED Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 39 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: They are resigned to losing him then... Barry Fry said there's a 10% chance of keeping him I think mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 23 hours ago, Dastardly and Muttley said: For Marriott, the interesting thing for me was the good luck posts with the BCFC hashtags. Why put that at all if it has no relevance? Us or Brum, decided before his holiday, I think! This. To have tweets from old Ipswich mate (I think Tyronne Mings) and the current Ipswich phyiso saying good luck with new move and putting #bcfc is quite a big statement. City would have known Reid was probably going and sorted a quick deal before others got involved. I expect him to be our big striker signing, whether it be 2years later and potentially 5mil more than it could have been...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 58 minutes ago, BessexRED said: We'll see. Precisely. He was at the club weeks ago. I posted as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 33 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: And yet on another thread you object to bringing in Willis and Eisa on the grounds of them not being yet at the standard of those who they would replace... It’s either buy ‘ready to go’ at higher prices or buy those who need a little polishing (and probably more time) for less. You seem to object to both approaches. Some people will just object to everything that happens. Putting Reid up front was a gamble, Kodja was a gamble, Dhiedhou was a gamble....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, nebristolred said: Precisely. He was at the club weeks ago. I posted as much. Then what happened? Heads turned by other clubs, hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, alexukhc said: Then what happened? Heads turned by other clubs, hmmmm Or the deal was waiting on selling Reid? We'll see soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, wood_red said: Some people will just object to everything that happens. Putting Reid up front was a gamble, Kodja was a gamble, Dhiedhou was a gamble....... You (and a few other serial apologists) don’t get it do you Try and work out why are likely to be paying 5/6m for someone who was gettable for a couple of hundred thousand 2 yrs ago when he showed early signs as a finisher even when he scored against US We instead signed Hinds and Bakinson from the same Club None too deep in your knowledge I guess Bit like Watching and dawdling on Ollie Watkins whilst we blow millions on Engvall Taylor-Moore and Eliasson Lets see iF we sign Elsa whether we get him for that a couple of hundred grand and if he’s he gets near the required level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, alexukhc said: Then what happened? Heads turned by other clubs, hmmmm 22 minutes ago, chinapig said: Or the deal was waiting on selling Reid? We'll see soon. He went on holiday. No more info after that but I assumed after reading the Tweets with #bcfc in them, it was only a matter of time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: You (and a few other serial apologists) don’t get it do you Try and work out why are likely to be paying 5/6m for someone who was gettable for a couple of hundred thousand 2 yrs ago when he showed early signs as a finisher even when he scored against US We instead signed Hinds and Bakinson from the same Club None too deep in your knowledge I guess Bit like Watching and dawdling on Ollie Watkins whilst we blow millions on Engvall Taylor-Moore and Eliasson Lets see iF we sign Elsa whether we get him for that a couple of hundred grand and if he’s he gets near the required level Whilst I agree the fee is daft you just never know how these things will work out. We could have signed Marriott from Luton and he doesn’t fit in with us and goes on loan to Bury. I agree though. We should be looking much harder for better bargains in the lower leagues. Even if we sign Marriott I would hope we go for Eisa too. The biggest problem with that though is we don’t know who is signing who. Is LJ a fan or is it MA? Whoever we sign for whatever fee I just hope the get a run of games to either make it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: You (and a few other serial apologists) don’t get it do you Try and work out why are likely to be paying 5/6m for someone who was gettable for a couple of hundred thousand 2 yrs ago when he showed early signs as a finisher even when he scored against US We instead signed Hinds and Bakinson from the same Club None too deep in your knowledge I guess Bit like Watching and dawdling on Ollie Watkins whilst we blow millions on Engvall Taylor-Moore and Eliasson Lets see iF we sign Elsa whether we get him for that a couple of hundred grand and if he’s he gets near the required level I think you entirely right historically. Any number of players Harry has recommended on here over the years could be added to the list, some under previous regimes. I can't recall who from the club recently said we need to be identifying such players earlier. SL possibly? So the problem has at least been identified but I'm still not sure we have the right set up to solve it in the absence of a DoF or similar. Not a job for the head coach, whoever it is, or the chief scout. Somebody - not the CEO - needs to be in charge of the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcherryberry Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 34 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: You (and a few other serial apologists) don’t get it do you Try and work out why are likely to be paying 5/6m for someone who was gettable for a couple of hundred thousand 2 yrs ago when he showed early signs as a finisher even when he scored against US We instead signed Hinds and Bakinson from the same Club None too deep in your knowledge I guess Bit like Watching and dawdling on Ollie Watkins whilst we blow millions on Engvall Taylor-Moore and Eliasson Lets see iF we sign Elsa whether we get him for that a couple of hundred grand and if he’s he gets near the required level Bob, I had to watch Marriot a few times during his first & second spell at Woking on loan from Ipswich. Liked what saw (reminded me of a youngTony Thorpe), got a second opinion from @Harry but BCFC didn’t take it any further. Kills me to see us blow a reported 5/6 million on him now when we could of got him for peanuts then stuck him in the U23’s or loaned him out till deemed ready for Championship football . Mad Mick bombed him from Ipswich after he got lapped on a run in pre season BTW, true story. Ollie is the one that hurts the most though. We pushed so hard for him even before he made his Exeter debut & carried on pushing his name in & LJ even liked him but no idea why we didn’t make a move. Shame cos Ollie would of jumped at the chance to come here, top lad & will be a top player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, redcherryberry said: Bob, I had to watch Marriot a few times during his first & second spell at Woking on loan from Ipswich. Liked what saw (reminded me of a youngTony Thorpe), got a second opinion from @Harry but BCFC didn’t take it any further. Kills me to see us blow a reported 5/6 million on him now when we could of got him for peanuts then stuck him in the U23’s or loaned him out till deemed ready for Championship football . Mad Mick bombed him from Ipswich after he got lapped on a run in pre season BTW, true story. Ollie is the one that hurts the most though. We pushed so hard for him even before he made his Exeter debut & carried on pushing his name in & LJ even liked him but no idea why we didn’t make a move. Shame cos Ollie would of jumped at the chance to come here, top lad & will be a top player. Interesting, thanks. LJ liked him but we didn't make a move? I wonder what that might tell us about who has the power over recruitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, redcherryberry said: Bob, I had to watch Marriot a few times during his first & second spell at Woking on loan from Ipswich. Liked what saw (reminded me of a youngTony Thorpe), got a second opinion from @Harry but BCFC didn’t take it any further. Kills me to see us blow a reported 5/6 million on him now when we could of got him for peanuts then stuck him in the U23’s or loaned him out till deemed ready for Championship football . Mad Mick bombed him from Ipswich after he got lapped on a run in pre season BTW, true story. Ollie is the one that hurts the most though. We pushed so hard for him even before he made his Exeter debut & carried on pushing his name in & LJ even liked him but no idea why we didn’t make a move. Shame cos Ollie would of jumped at the chance to come here, top lad & will be a top player. First time I saw footage of him he shouted FINISHER RedCherry Either we have analysts and others who didn’t recognise it or i anticipate we didn’t like some signs as you’ve highlighted above Having said that if we’d signed him we’d have demoralised him by sending him out to Bury or somewhere as @JoeAman08 semi joked above But to be spending the anticipated sums on a player who was literally under our nose two years or so ago and we could have invested in for relative peanuts doesn’t seem a very efficient model to me And as much as he’s caught my eye he’s still unproven at the next level up Havnt a clue whether he will make the step up tbh but I hope he does because at least we will secure or make on our investment at some point Reminded me of Adam La Fondre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Expensive ‘gamble’ and about 2 years too late and will pay 5 or 6 million more than we needed Ahhhhhhh well 2 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: And yet on another thread you object to bringing in Willis and Eisa on the grounds of them not being yet at the standard of those who they would replace... It’s either buy ‘ready to go’ at higher prices or buy those who need a little polishing (and probably more time) for less. You seem to object to both approaches. 47 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: You (and a few other serial apologists) don’t get it do you Try and work out why are likely to be paying 5/6m for someone who was gettable for a couple of hundred thousand 2 yrs ago when he showed early signs as a finisher even when he scored against US We instead signed Hinds and Bakinson from the same Club None too deep in your knowledge I guess Bit like Watching and dawdling on Ollie Watkins whilst we blow millions on Engvall Taylor-Moore and Eliasson Lets see iF we sign Elsa whether we get him for that a couple of hundred grand and if he’s he gets near the required level I am no apologist at all. You have said we are overpaying 2 years later (which seems to be because now he has became a decent player and was peanuts back then). But now there are players apparently on our radar that are essentially going to cost peanuts you say they they are not yet at the standard who they would replace. You cannot have it both ways surely. Who knew that Engvall wouldn't work out, who knew Kodja would become the player he would? Dhiedhou has done superb for his fee? It is too easy in hindsight saying we should have bought "player A" back then. In my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, wood_red said: Who knew that Engvall wouldn't work out, who knew Kodja would become the player he would? Dhiedhou has done superb for his fee? It is too easy in hindsight saying we should have bought "player A" back then. Too true. Every transfer has an element of risk. When Man U signed Di Maria for 60 odd million did they expect him to play like Stevie Wonder ? Nope. Did Liverpool pay 30 odd for Salah expecting him to be worth 5/6 times that in one season ? Nope At our level that risk level is magnified quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 I also am not saying if we do sign him we are getting any value at the quoted prices, but everything is just mental as it currently stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: Too true. Every transfer has an element of risk. When Man U signed Di Maria for 60 odd million did they expect him to play like Stevie Wonder ? Nope. Did Liverpool pay 30 odd for Salah expecting him to be worth 5/6 times that in one season ? Nope At our level that risk level is magnified quite a lot. There are others you could add to the United list. Veron stands out: a world class player who didn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said: You (and a few other serial apologists) don’t get it do you Try and work out why are likely to be paying 5/6m for someone who was gettable for a couple of hundred thousand 2 yrs ago when he showed early signs as a finisher even when he scored against US We instead signed Hinds and Bakinson from the same Club None too deep in your knowledge I guess Bit like Watching and dawdling on Ollie Watkins whilst we blow millions on Engvall Taylor-Moore and Eliasson Lets see iF we sign Elsa whether we get him for that a couple of hundred grand and if he’s he gets near the required level You may well be right, but can you at least try to resist biting with the insults whenever anybody disagrees with you? It leaves a sour taste every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Leveller said: You may well be right, but can you at least try to resist biting with the insults whenever anybody disagrees with you? It leaves a sour taste every time. Shock The ‘ selective what (Who) I challenge Traffic Warden has arrived Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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