Dolman Block B Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Derby. https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1022050131485618177 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dolman Block B said: Derby. https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1022050131485618177 His tweets are protected and we can’t see them , unless you follow him Block B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: His tweets are protected and we can’t see them , unless you follow him Block B Beat me to it. Don't do Twitter.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, chinapig said: Plus MacAnthony said Marriott's head was turned by the wages Derby were offering. Derby's cost cutting doesn't seem to have lasted long. and still there are City fans who don't get the financial issues that make it tough to compete in this division - Derby don't even have parachute payments and, as you have hinted, are meant to be cutting costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Musicworks Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Derby have probably worked out that they can narrowly avoid FFP sanctions so are now going to go for it by doing a Villa. If they go up it’s hunky dory and if they don’t they can also do a Villa and bring in new investors to buy them another season of rolling the dice. Until the FA grow a pair the craziness will continue and clubs like ours will not be able to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 8 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Waghorn, a very experienced premier league/championship player He has played 6 games in the Premier League, 210 in the Championship. Experienced in the Championship, fine, but not the Premier League. 6 appearances and no goals there. 2 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: He’s got a roughly one goal every three games record over an 11 year career Depends how 'roughly' you are talking. I feel you're spinning that statistic slightly to make your point. Over his entire career in all competitions, 93 goals in 314 appearances. 1 goal every 3.38 games, so I'll give you that, 'to the nearest game' - though it is very rough. However, when you consider 17 of his career goals were scored in Scottish Cup competitions, a little over 18% of all his career goals. A further 20 in the Scottish Championship, 21.5% of his career goals. That's very close to 40% of his career goals in those two categories. In England - 49 goals in 236 appearances. 1 goal every 4.82 games. In the Championship - 49 goals in 210 appearances. 1 goal every 4.29 games. I'm not trying to prove anyone right or wrong here, nor give an opinion on Waghorn's ability, at the end of the day if £8m is what someone is willing to pay, then clearly that is what they feel his 'worth' to them is. Those above are just facts presented slightly differently to the way you yourself presented them. For what it's worth, I wouldn't want our club to spend £8m on him personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 25, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, chinapig said: Plus MacAnthony said Marriott's head was turned by the wages Derby were offering. Derby's cost cutting doesn't seem to have lasted long. Get rid of one player on £25k a week and replace him with another on £24k - it is still cost cutting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: His tweets are protected and we can’t see them , unless you follow him Block B Basically, he answers a Derby fan saying “any truth in rumours that Marriott will be announced today.” - he says Derby are “trying to close it, yes.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BessexRED Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Announced later on tonight for Derby. Shame but was never on once Eisa signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: I’m with you and I wouldn’t pay anywhere near that money for him mate Just think he’s better than he’s generally perceived Yes, lot of pre-conceptions based on earlier career, Wikipedia stats....when we ought to be looking at what he brings to Ipswich, a mid-table, lowish scoring team (in top half, only Millwall scores less - 56). 38 minutes ago, Coxy27 said: He has played 6 games in the Premier League, 210 in the Championship. Experienced in the Championship, fine, but not the Premier League. 6 appearances and no goals there. Depends how 'roughly' you are talking. I feel you're spinning that statistic slightly to make your point. Over his entire career in all competitions, 93 goals in 314 appearances. 1 goal every 3.38 games, so I'll give you that, 'to the nearest game' - though it is very rough. However, when you consider 17 of his career goals were scored in Scottish Cup competitions, a little over 18% of all his career goals. A further 20 in the Scottish Championship, 21.5% of his career goals. That's very close to 40% of his career goals in those two categories. In England - 49 goals in 236 appearances. 1 goal every 4.82 games. In the Championship - 49 goals in 210 appearances. 1 goal every 4.29 games. I'm not trying to prove anyone right or wrong here, nor give an opinion on Waghorn's ability, at the end of the day if £8m is what someone is willing to pay, then clearly that is what they feel his 'worth' to them is. Those above are just facts presented slightly differently to the way you yourself presented them. For what it's worth, I wouldn't want our club to spend £8m on him personally. A lot of his earlier career was sub appearances.. His 211a / 49g dies t look great, but actually equates to 133 full 90 minute games. Over his career his 314a / 93g is over 207 90 minutes worth. But I think we all agree £8m is a lot (As was Reid’s £9+1m), but I reckon better value than Marriott at £6.5m. If Marriott has gone for £4.75m, I still think it’s over the idea, but I get the value. I think we overpaid for Diedhiou at £5.3m, but could understand Anger’s reticence to see them not get the value they missed with JK. Stats, lies and all that!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: His tweets are protected and we can’t see them , unless you follow him Block B I do, its very close now, reckon he signs today along with Waghorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 49 minutes ago, BessexRED said: Announced later on tonight for Derby. Shame but was never on once Eisa signed. Deal was dead long before Eisa signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 I do so hope Marriott signs for someone today. I rarely wish ill of anyone but do wonder how many BEP journalists will be seeking new employment once their one and only boring, ill-informed, tedious, inaccurate, regurgitated non story has collapsed. I do realise that OTIB has made 27 pages of it but, jeez, talk about disingenuous click-bait. It makes another "Curbishly Clifton property" joke look like the cutting edge of contemporary British humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 If true then keep everything crossed that Marriott proves to be a complete flop, if he bags 25 and fires them to promotion we're going to be feeling a bit fed up. Maybe we met there valuation, but Marriott didn't want to move to us? Maybe we didn't meet there valuation and sort better value elsewhere in Eisa. Who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, Sniper said: If true then keep everything crossed that Marriott proves to be a complete flop, if he bags 25 and fires them to promotion we're going to be feeling a bit fed up. Maybe we met there valuation, but Marriott didn't want to move to us? Maybe we didn't meet there valuation and sort better value elsewhere in Eisa. Who knows FWIW we didn’t meet the asking price as it’s too high. Always had other, more suitable options to go for. Should never of got to 27 pages of conjecture IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said: Deal was dead long before Eisa signed. The deal was dead when BCFC found out the valuation approximately the same time Mr Peterborough said Jack wanted to go to Forest which the Derby fan's will no doubt appreciate. So it'll be c £5million with any number of add ons I have no doubt that Jack would have been happy to go to any of the interested clubs so long as it was not called Peterborough, in the Championship and with an enormous pay day coupled with a spectacular pay rise. And good luck to the guy except when he plays us. Personally, all things considered, the Mo signing is much more interesting to me in the same way Callum O'Dowda was when he moved from L2 Oxford. It may take a season to step up but a refugee from war torn Sudan may be a little more focussed and determined than your average player and make his mark that much quicker. Just maybe- the absence of Fam for those 6 games is all he'll need to get his chance. Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 15:15 DERBY AGREE MARRIOTT FEE Derby County have agreed a fee that could rise to £5m for Peterborough striker Jack Marriott, according to Sky sources. The negotiations have been protracted, but we understand Derby will make an initial payment of £3m, with significant add-ons depending on performances. Marriott will undergo a medical in Derby later today, and the deal could be completed tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 On 23/07/2018 at 13:28, Davefevs said: At last, thanks. Players don’t live 100 yards from the ground, they can afford to live wherever they want within reason. Lytham is very nice. I really don’t get the mentality that says "why would he go there, Town X is a shithole”. have you ever been to Yatton ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said: FWIW we didn’t meet the asking price as it’s too high. Always had other, more suitable options to go for. Should never of got to 27 pages of conjecture IMHO. Bloody forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said: FWIW we didn’t meet the asking price as it’s too high. Always had other, more suitable options to go for. Should never of got to 27 pages of conjecture IMHO. Posh wanted a minimum of 30 pages on OTIB with a add ons ( additional for achieving 100 likes) but we were only prepared to go as high as 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Bit disappointed we have pulled out considering the initial fee is £3m, rising to £5m. Considering we got £10m for Reid that's not bad business at all for a younger striker. I've got a bad feeling this could be one that got away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, nebristolred said: Bit disappointed we have pulled out considering the initial fee is £3m, rising to £5m. Considering we got £10m for Reid that's not bad business at all for a younger striker. I've got a bad feeling this could be one that got away. Odds on he would have chosen Derby as he is said to want to stay in the East Midlands and Derby will pay him a lot more than us. MacAnthony said his head had been turned by the big bucks they had offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, phantom said: Get rid of one player on £25k a week and replace him with another on £24k - it is still cost cutting Not quite the scale of cuts Morris was implying though, especially as Lampard said recently he expected Vydra to stay and they are about to spend big bucks on 2 strikers if they get Waghorn as well. Not to mention 2 high profile young Prem players on loan, who won't come cheap. Could it be Lampard decided he couldn't manage without spending big after all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, nebristolred said: Bit disappointed we have pulled out considering the initial fee is £3m, rising to £5m. Considering we got £10m for Reid that's not bad business at all for a younger striker. I've got a bad feeling this could be one that got away. Bit pleased that we pulled off the Eisa transfer considering the initial fee is £1.25m. Considering we got £10m for Reid that's not bad business at all for a young striker. I've got a good feeling this could be the one that didn't get away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 42 minutes ago, nebristolred said: Bit disappointed we have pulled out considering the initial fee is £3m, rising to £5m. Considering we got £10m for Reid that's not bad business at all for a younger striker. I've got a bad feeling this could be one that got away. I don’t think we can discount cause and effect here. I may well be the asking price was much higher when we were interested too. Our signing of Eisa may have turned it from a bidding war where Posh could name their price to a situation where they had a wantaway striker and only one suitor, hence a drastic drop in asking price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: I do so hope Marriott signs for someone today. I rarely wish ill of anyone but do wonder how many BEP journalists will be seeking new employment once their one and only boring, ill-informed, tedious, inaccurate, regurgitated non story has collapsed. I do realise that OTIB has made 27 pages of it but, jeez, talk about disingenuous click-bait. It makes another "Curbishly Clifton property" joke look like the cutting edge of contemporary British humour. Sunderland had a 94 page thread on their prospective signing of Eisa A hour by hour drama for days Only to end in dissapointment ......... Some decent comments about us tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Can we put this to bed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: Bit pleased that we pulled off the Eisa transfer considering the initial fee is £1.25m. Considering we got £10m for Reid that's not bad business at all for a young striker. I've got a good feeling this could be the one that didn't get away. What a bizarre post. You do realise I'm not disappointed about us signing Eisa right? 8 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I don’t think we can discount cause and effect here. I may well be the asking price was much higher when we were interested too. Our signing of Eisa may have turned it from a bidding war where Posh could name their price to a situation where they had a wantaway striker and only one suitor, hence a drastic drop in asking price. Yep this is a good point to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Nothing changes much. Derby seem to always win the race when a number of clubs are involved. Clough signed a shed load and it hasn't stopped. Let's hope they miss out again on promotion. 1 minute ago, Redrascal2 said: Nothing changes much. Derby seem to always win the race when a number of clubs are involved. Clough signed a shed load and it hasn't stopped. Let's hope they miss out again on promotion. Nigel I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 51 minutes ago, nebristolred said: Bit disappointed we have pulled out considering the initial fee is £3m, rising to £5m. Considering we got £10m for Reid that's not bad business at all for a younger striker. I've got a bad feeling this could be one that got away. Nottingham Post reporting the fee is £2.5m rising to £5m with add ons. How different it might have been had that been the fee Posh were asking at the outset? No wonder McAnthony was desperate to get a bidding war going when the fee the were asking was over £6m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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