NewquayRed Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 Watched all of the player interviews from the media day at St Georges Park (worth a watch) and i have to say I was impressed, they all spoke well individually and you can really sense a togetherness/focus that I think is stating to build momentum. We know our style of play, we know our preferred formation when pushing and when holding and we have a pretty good idea of the first 11 going into the group games. I'm most likely in the minority but I think we could do something this year with this group - reminds me of the way Glenn had us lined up in 98 which for me was the last decent team to step out in a tournament. I am therefore officially raising my expectations, ready to be downtrodden and disappointed.... or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, NewquayRed said: Watched all of the player interviews from the media day at St Georges Park (worth a watch) and i have to say I was impressed, they all spoke well individually and you can really sense a togetherness/focus that I think is stating to build momentum. We know our style of play, we know our preferred formation when pushing and when holding and we have a pretty good idea of the first 11 going into the group games. I'm most likely in the minority but I think we could do something this year with this group - reminds me of the way Glenn had us lined up in 98 which for me was the last decent team to step out in a tournament. I am therefore officially raising my expectations, ready to be downtrodden and disappointed.... or not Inexperience and younger players can come with a belief and lack of fear We may surprise one or two yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 So drilled on what to say nowadays I don't think you can actually glean anything from player interviews. I am excited though, fully believe we've got enough about us to a shock one or two. I'd be ecstatic with the Quarters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: So drilled on what to say nowadays I don't think you can actually glean anything from player interviews. I am excited though, fully believe we've got enough about us to a shock one or two. I'd be ecstatic with the Quarters. Are they twins ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, Major Isewater said: Are they twins ? No, they're just both of Asian descent. Expected better from you Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 7, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, NewquayRed said: Watched all of the player interviews from the media day at St Georges Park (worth a watch) and i have to say I was impressed, they all spoke well individually and you can really sense a togetherness/focus that I think is stating to build momentum. We know our style of play, we know our preferred formation when pushing and when holding and we have a pretty good idea of the first 11 going into the group games. I'm most likely in the minority but I think we could do something this year with this group - reminds me of the way Glenn had us lined up in 98 which for me was the last decent team to step out in a tournament. I am therefore officially raising my expectations, ready to be downtrodden and disappointed.... or not Agree 100% @Newquay-Red Quarters AT LEAST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 39 minutes ago, phantom said: Agree 100% @Newquay-Red Quarters AT LEAST As much as I agree with what was said, you're thinking of the other NR! Before I saw him post a year or so ago I had always wondered why I had needed to put a hyphen between the words when I signed up here. What is nice to see is that we have an identity we are trying to forge, but we need to ensure we can continue with it when the opposition changes tactics to match us on the pitch. Was impressed to see Sterling, Alli and Lingard being able to switch positions and drive forward so frequently. Southgate must be commended for this; you can see that he has worked with many of these boys since they were kids. That being said, I do think he needs to work on his game management a bit more. We are often susceptible to changes in opposition tactics and compared with the massive levels of expectation and pressure, this causes the team to fall flat at times. I think we will just about get through the group but we might finish second to Belgium. We always draw the first game, and Belgium remind me of us at 2006- a massively hyped team of 'superstars' who have yet to show it on the international stage. If they click, we're in trouble. I expect the Panama game to be a scrappy affair too since they will most likely play for a draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 I've really warmed to Southgate in the past few months. Was completely against his appointment because I basically thought he was Hodgson in younger form. He's definitely proved me wrong so far, just hopefully can get them to play well at a tournament. I think our starting 11 is reasonably strong. The depth not so much, but Vardy coming on for the last half an hour against some tired legs is going to cause any nation in the world a problem. Prediction: We'll win the group, beat Brazil in the quarters and go out to France in the semis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, ZiderEyed said: So drilled on what to say nowadays I don't think you can actually glean anything from player interviews. I am excited though, fully believe we've got enough about us to a shock one or two. I'd be ecstatic with the Quarters. Apart from Danny Roses frank admission about his mental state over the last year, you mean? That was definitely unexpected and off message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, Port Said Red said: Apart from Danny Roses frank admission about his mental state over the last year, you mean? That was definitely unexpected and off message. Meant with regards to upcoming games really, pre-match interviews, post-match interviews, we're so saturated with their monotonous opinions. That was a shock though, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Carey 6 said: I've really warmed to Southgate in the past few months. Was completely against his appointment because I basically thought he was Hodgson in younger form. He's definitely proved me wrong so far, just hopefully can get them to play well at a tournament. I think our starting 11 is reasonably strong. The depth not so much, but Vardy coming on for the last half an hour against some tired legs is going to cause any nation in the world a problem. Prediction: We'll win the group, beat Brazil in the quarters and go out to France in the semis. Whether he can cut it as a Manager at that level is yet to be proven really, but he certainly comes across really well in interviews. I thought he has handled the questions around Sterling's tattoo and the potential racist chanting from the crowds well. I would imagine he has the respect of his players too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 I think most will be happy if we go there and play some attacking football instead of stinking the place out. Put an attacking line up out and blow away the first 2 teams who are pretty poor, obviously the Belgium game will be tough but if we reach the QF it will be a decent effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 Finish above Panama and Tunisia then beat Poland or Columbia doesn't seem the hardest task to reach the Quarters. Minimum expectation and see what happens thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Finish above Panama and Tunisia then beat Poland or Columbia doesn't seem the hardest task to reach the Quarters. Minimum expectation and see what happens thereafter. Or possibly meet Senegal. Personally, I think we're more likely to play Colombia and they may very well beat us. Seen that second half v Nigeria? Any more sluggish and they'd be putting down pellets for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 7, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, Red-Robbo said: Seen that second half v Nigeria? Any more sluggish and they'd be putting down pellets for us. I honestly believe we deliberately played that way to see how we would cope if we were on the back foot in a game I'm sure it was when City played Pompey in a pre-season match two years ago, that LJ said we had purposely sat back in the second half to see how we played with teams coming onto us After all that is what these "warm up" games are all about Equally I fully expect us to go all out tonight to see if we can destroy a team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, phantom said: I honestly believe we deliberately played that way to see how we would cope if we were on the back foot in a game I'm sure it was when City played Pompey in a pre-season match two years ago, that LJ said we had purposely sat back in the second half to see how we played with teams coming onto us After all that is what these "warm up" games are all about Equally I fully expect us to go all out tonight to see if we can destroy a team I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong, Mr P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewquayRed Posted June 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Carey 6 said: I've really warmed to Southgate in the past few months. Was completely against his appointment because I basically thought he was Hodgson in younger form. He's definitely proved me wrong so far, just hopefully can get them to play well at a tournament. I think our starting 11 is reasonably strong. The depth not so much, but Vardy coming on for the last half an hour against some tired legs is going to cause any nation in the world a problem. Prediction: We'll win the group, beat Brazil in the quarters and go out to France in the semis. That would be very tidy indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Carey 6 said: I've really warmed to Southgate in the past few months. Was completely against his appointment because I basically thought he was Hodgson in younger form. He's definitely proved me wrong so far, just hopefully can get them to play well at a tournament. I think our starting 11 is reasonably strong. The depth not so much, but Vardy coming on for the last half an hour against some tired legs is going to cause any nation in the world a problem. Prediction: We'll win the group, beat Brazil in the quarters and go out to France in the semis. Don't see us beating Brazil or even coming close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Carey 6 said: I've really warmed to Southgate in the past few months. Was completely against his appointment because I basically thought he was Hodgson in younger form. He's definitely proved me wrong so far, just hopefully can get them to play well at a tournament. I think our starting 11 is reasonably strong. The depth not so much, but Vardy coming on for the last half an hour against some tired legs is going to cause any nation in the world a problem. Prediction: We'll win the group, beat Brazil in the quarters and go out to France in the semis. I think you might well be right, and if they do can come back with their heads held high to a hero's reception and rightly so, let's keep our fingers crossed they do us proud. God knows we have waited long enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewquayRed Posted June 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 Optimism levels now officially - High Retro kits washed and ironed (France 98 my preference) Flag up the pole in the garden to annoy the neighbours and wife, spotify updates with England tunes. (likely ready to be put away sometime before the 30th June but just cant resist it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 Southgate's quiet revolution has been great to see so far. Lots of negativity surrounded his appointment however he's implemented things we've needed for a very long time. Young talented squad Round pegs in round holes No 'saviour' type player we are putting all our faith in No players dressing up as saint George, awful adverts No calls to bring in any injured/ long retired players A clear and defined system, little tinkering No pre toirnament media scandals Players seem comfortable in each other's company and respect him, relaxed vibe Intelligent responses to media trying to stir shit up (sterling/rose/racism) Built a team rather than a collection of individuals No awful world cup song "Yes man" label hasn't stuck Cleared the old crap hart / Rooney Took England away from Wembley (great atmosphere at elland road) We all know we don't have the calibre of players to win the world cup, not southgate's fault) QF would be considered a good effort. Lots to be optimistic about. Looking forward to this WC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 21 hours ago, Super said: Don't see us beating Brazil or even coming close. Why not? They haven't been the most convincing team in recent tournaments. We gave them a good game last year albeit a friendly, and they dont tend to fare well in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 Just now, MarcusX said: Why not? They haven't been the most convincing team in recent tournaments. We gave them a good game last year albeit a friendly, and they dont tend to fare well in Europe. Because we will be found out defensively against the top teams. Just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Super said: Because we will be found out defensively against the top teams. Just my opinion though. Could say the same about Brazil, considering the hammering Germany gave them. I'm clutching a bit but no international team is unbeatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 I think we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves here. I absolutely agree with all of the praise of Southgate - he's the anti-Capello/Hodgson in many ways. Hodgson had no clue of the system and Capello ensured that the squad had no harmony, he's fixed both of those issues. He just simply doesn't have the talent to mount a serious challenge though. Getting out of the group is an absolute minimum, but then where? Second round we face Poland or Colombia - many will say that we should absolutely be winning that, but the fact is, we are more in their bracket these days than France/Germany, etc. If we do lose to Poland or Colombia, we will be battered in the press, yet that would be totally unfair - those teams include some top players. Piszczek, Lewandowski, Szczesny, etc for Poland, and then Colombia have James Rodriguez, Cuadrado, Bacca, Falcao. They are much more of a challenge than many will think. Quarter-finals would be an above average result imo, anything further would be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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