Roger Red Hat Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44407450 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 They're only backing it because the current government isn't behind it, it they were they'd probably oppose it. Doesn't mean labour really believes in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 24 minutes ago, hodge said: They're only backing it because the current government isn't behind it, it they were they'd probably oppose it. Doesn't mean labour really believes in it. That's not really true - Corbyn has always supported it as an Arsenal fan himself (not just a plastic one either, he has a ST) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 Called this would happen about a month ago. At least some MPs are behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, hodge said: They're only backing it because the current government isn't behind it, it they were they'd probably oppose it. Doesn't mean labour really believes in it. He’s always backed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 Unlike the government, Labour gets it. It’s a safety issue. You will not stop standing in grounds, so let’s make it safe to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC&T Board Members Blagdon red Posted June 8, 2018 SC&T Board Members Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Tomarse said: That's not really true - Corbyn has always supported it as an Arsenal fan himself (not just a plastic one either, he has a ST) Corbyn in fact voted against the Football Spectators Bill in the summer of 1989. So he's been pretty consistent on this one. I met Dr Rosena Allin-Khan, the shadow sports minister, about safe standing last December, since when she has done a lot of homework and consultation with fan groups. She is a matchgoing fan (LFC) and does really 'get it'. So this formal announcement today was certainly not a token gesture. Now the Tories' turn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Tomarse said: That's not really true - Corbyn has always supported it as an Arsenal fan himself not just a plastic one either, he is a complete moron however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 Anyone who thinks this is anything more than a gesture to gain popularity shouldn't be allowed to vote. Mods this is going to turn into a messy thread about politics, I use this forum for a bit of escapism, now I have a picture of that scruffy ***** in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted June 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 21 hours ago, YorkshireSection said: Anyone who thinks this is anything more than a gesture to gain popularity shouldn't be allowed to vote. Mods this is going to turn into a messy thread about politics, I use this forum for a bit of escapism, now I have a picture of that scruffy ***** in my head. Are you allowed to vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC&T Board Members Blagdon red Posted June 10, 2018 SC&T Board Members Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 Any policy announced by any political party is intended to gain popularity. That is their raison d'etre and the core principle of democracy, i.e. politicians are elected to do what the electorate wants. For the record, the LibDems, the Greens and, for what it's worth, UKIP also have support for safe standing as formal party policy. The Tories, at present, do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 6 hours ago, Blagdon red said: Any policy announced by any political party is intended to gain popularity. That is their raison d'etre and the core principle of democracy, i.e. politicians are elected to do what the electorate wants. For the record, the LibDems, the Greens and, for what it's worth, UKIP also have support for safe standing as formal party policy. The Tories, at present, do not. Which is surprising as you'd think the Tories would be the one party to be the least PC and so not so health and safety conscious, but in saying that I guess a lot of the football tragedies that have happened have been when they've been in government so maybe they want to keep these kinds of policies in place to cover there previous failings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 if safe standing is allowed does it have any change on capacity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC&T Board Members Blagdon red Posted June 10, 2018 SC&T Board Members Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Crackers Corner said: if safe standing is allowed does it have any change on capacity? It looks as though the national regulations that will then be in place when safe standing is given the green light will not rule out an increase in capacity. However, that will be subject to strict criteria and while those may not be too hard to satisfy with new builds, for retrofits it may be more difficult. That relates in particular to the size of vomitories and concourses and thus to evacuation times. At most grounds the exits etc. are no larger than is required to evacuate the current capacity within the prescribed time. If you increase the number of people inside such a ground, you would therefore be unable to evacuate them fast enough... unless you did quite a lot of expensive structural work (if that was indeed possible). So in theory, yes, a capacity increase will be possible. In practice it will vary from fround to ground and at some may not be possible at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 17 hours ago, Show Me The Money! said: Which is surprising as you'd think the Tories would be the one party to be the least PC and so not so health and safety conscious, but in saying that I guess a lot of the football tragedies that have happened have been when they've been in government so maybe they want to keep these kinds of policies in place to cover there previous failings not really it was a thatcher era policy and the tories will do anything to uphold her legacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC&T Board Members Blagdon red Posted June 11, 2018 SC&T Board Members Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Monkeh said: not really it was a thatcher era policy and the tories will do anything to uphold her legacy I'm not sure. I imagine there are parts of her legacy that many Tory MPs would now not sign up to. Like, for instance, basing government policy on an odious and now wholly discredited lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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