Never to the dark side Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5852283/England-blunder-referee-Wilmar-Roldan-World-Cup-Group-G-opener-against-Tunisia.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 Honestly mate, you have to stop just picking up these clickbait non-stories from the worst of the web and reposting them on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 In other news, man who made a mistake once referees football match., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isawjonshaw Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 can't be as bad as Gurnam Singh (For us of a certain age!!!). Apologies if I've spelled his name incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Isawjonshaw said: can't be as bad as Gurnam Singh (For us of a certain age!!!). Apologies if I've spelled his name incorrectly. Norman Glover? Dennis Hedges. The only man with a swearword as his middle name. Everyone used to say when they saw he was the ref `Oh no, it`s Dennis ******* Hedges` Lester Shapter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 J R Loynton of Solihull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Bumping this in view of some of the decisions this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsKev Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 It's time to send the clown home! utter garbage. on the plus side having the WWE side show was an added bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Shitehawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, downendcity said: Bumping this in view of some of the decisions this evening. Tbf - he was let down by the VAR official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Shitehawk Clown, didn’t need VAR to see blatant penalties like those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laner Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Robbored said: Tbf - he was let down by the VAR official. It's still the ref in charge of the game. No VAR excuses for missing some poor decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Robbored said: Tbf - he was let down by the VAR official. You dont know that. 1) It's not on the OS 2) The VAR official may have said to have another look at the wrestling with the ref choosing not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Clown, didn’t need VAR to see blatant penalties like those. Some of it was ******* ridiculous. Downs league refereeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Harsh On the downs league. Some of the best refereeing I have seen was at Western League level. Edit- meant to quote @ZiderEyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiled Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Dreadful and toothless refereeing. Tunisia were allowed to do whatever they wanted to disrupt and slow that second half. It's beyond gamesmanship when you've conceded a foul with 5 minutes remaining and you refuse to drop back 10yds. Referee ran away when he should have been showing cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: You dont know that. 1) It's not on the OS 2) The VAR official may have said to have another look at the wrestling with the ref choosing not to. This is my problem with the system. There should be an official who can make decisions looking at the footage, then surely the Pens would have been given. Also would stop the painfully slow process of the Ref trundling over to the tv screen to watch what he’s missed. What is the point of VAR if you can still get away with Rugby tackles at corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: You dont know that. 1) It's not on the OS 2) The VAR official may have said to have another look at the wrestling with the ref choosing not to. This is my problem with the system. There should be an official who can make decisions looking at the footage, then surely the Pens would have been given. Also would stop the painfully slow process of the Ref trundling over to the tv screen to watch what he’s missed. What is the point of VAR if you can still get away with Rugby tackles at corners. FIFA has long resisted the introduction of technology. Perhaps they have set up VAR the way they have so that it will generate issue such as this evening so they can then justify it being cancelled in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, Laner said: It's still the ref in charge of the game. No VAR excuses for missing some poor decisions. Referees watch the flight of the ball at a set play so frequently miss off the ball incidents as we saw tonight. Surely one of the reasons VAR was introduced was to highlight the incidents that the ref missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespa Red Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Where's Lester Shapter when you need him..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 I actually did laugh out loud when Sterling was penalised for holding in the box.I guess one arm is illegal but use both and it’s ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, downendcity said: FIFA has long resisted the introduction of technology. Perhaps they have set up VAR the way they have so that it will generate issue such as this evening so they can then justify it being cancelled in future. This I have no problem with. But a 'rigged' (for lack of a better word) test run I do have a problem with. Like it or not, and I am a firm "or not" here, a fair test run should be tried. Also, are you suggesting FIFA arent a totally squeaky clean and trustworthy group? I never thought I'd see someone saying that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 This VAR system is odd Its been good and bad The same as general reffing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 A shithouse who was out of his depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, Robbored said: Referees watch the flight of the ball at a set play so frequently miss off the ball incidents as we saw tonight. Surely one of the reasons VAR was introduced was to highlight the incidents that the ref missed? ...or not!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, Robbored said: Referees watch the flight of the ball at a set play so frequently miss off the ball incidents as we saw tonight. Surely one of the reasons VAR was introduced was to highlight the incidents that the ref missed? The ref said that if he didn't see the offence on the OS he couldn't give it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, downendcity said: ...or not!!! Point being that the definition of what "clear and obvious" mistakes are themselves unclear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, Robbored said: Point being that the definition of what "clear and obvious" mistakes are themselves unclear. The only thing not clear is how the ref and the VAR officials missed the absolutely clear fouls against Harry Kane that were penalty decisions. There is obviously a bit of a fudge over the way VAR is applied to protect refs and the VAR officials from criticism. I would have thought the Kane fouls are the very best examples you could have of a "clear and obvious " mistake i.e. missed by the referee, so cannot for the life f me see why the VAR officials did not draw the refs attention she could review. Had the ref had chance to review, he would have had award penalties and perhaps therein lies the issue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, downendcity said: The only thing not clear is how the ref and the VAR officials missed the absolutely clear fouls against Harry Kane that were penalty decisions. There is obviously a bit of a fudge over the way VAR is applied to protect refs and the VAR officials from criticism. I would have thought the Kane fouls are the very best examples you could have of a "clear and obvious " mistake i.e. missed by the referee, so cannot for the life f me see why the VAR officials did not draw the refs attention she could review. Had the ref had chance to review, he would have had award penalties and perhaps therein lies the issue! would be interesting to know if var brought it up and ref ignored them if so he should be sent home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Just now, reddoh said: would be interesting to know if var brought it up and ref ignored them if so he should be sent home. .... as worrying if it was not raised by the VAR officials. I can understand the ref possibly missing the incidents but a panel of 3 with video replay capability????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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