cidered abroad Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, nebristolred said: Exactly, this isn't a generation thing. I don't want a whole millenials v old folk argument , but let's face it, it was the older generations who were beating the **** out of each other in the 80's, and getting us banned from European competition. Fact is, there are knobheads in all age groups. It's 100% a lad culture issue but this is not a new phenomenon. It was those who are now middle aged! Those of us who are OLD, stood side by side with opposing supporters exchanging nothing but banter. And queued in the local newsagents for the Green Un without any bad behaviour at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erithacus Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Leveller said: if it’s solid bronze it’s probably pretty strong Most bronze statues are hollow, with it being so expensive and difficult to manage large, solid pieces. I suspect Big John is at least partly hollow and not designed to withstand extra loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Cowshed said: No. Risk assessment does not work like that. It is as basic as it gets. You sell alcohol to people outdoors for hours in the sun YOU have the responsibility to assess risk. When Massive Attack played in Queens square the statues were boarded off and stewards placed in the vicinity. That is not football Like I said...sad state of affairs, where you need 'Authority' to think ahead, because certain people can't control themselves. Just wish everyone could be civilised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: It was those who are now middle aged! Those of us who are OLD, stood side by side with opposing supporters exchanging nothing but banter. And queued in the local newsagents for the Green Un without any bad behaviour at all. Okay fair enough, point was that it's not something that is only typical of the youth of today, it's not a new thing whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, ziderheadarmy said: Would it still be “harmless” fun if they broke a arm or his head off? No, then it would be "armless" fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 hours ago, nebristolred said: Exactly, this isn't a generation thing. I don't want a whole millenials v old folk argument , but let's face it, it was the older generations who were beating the **** out of each other in the 80's, and getting us banned from European competition. Fact is, there are knobheads in all age groups. It's 100% a lad culture issue but this is not a new phenomenon. It is compared to The Fifties when I and other fans were young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: On twitter there's a trend this tournament to film the craziest goal celebrations.. usually involving beer throwing, limbs and general destruction. That'll explain the bean bag thing. I think this statue thing is pretty straightforward really.. just the result of people drinking. Would've happened with any post-war generation since football has been a spectator sport. Alcohol + sun + England winning does things to people! Sadly, the beer throwing craze seemed to start from Ashton Gate. The video of the game against Wales was the first of the bunch, now it just seems rather predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost black rat Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 is it possible to electrify the statue , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 33 minutes ago, JasonM88 said: Sadly, the beer throwing craze seemed to start from Ashton Gate. The video of the game against Wales was the first of the bunch, now it just seems rather predictable. Yeap. Making the fan village less family friendly than it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 20 hours ago, ashtonphil mk2 said: I wouldn’t surprise me if CIty stopped showing the football as the scenes were embarrassing at the end. Which arfter the result is pretty sad. What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 40 minutes ago, JasonM88 said: Sadly, the beer throwing craze seemed to start from Ashton Gate. The video of the game against Wales was the first of the bunch, now it just seems rather predictable. I've had beer thrown over me up at the races, not a new thing at all. I'm sure it's been going on all over the world for years, not a new craze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: I've had beer thrown over me up at the races, not a new thing at all. I'm sure it's been going on all over the world for years, not a new craze Glad it was just beer at the races. #Ayling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowie Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: I've had beer thrown over me up at the races, not a new thing at all. I'm sure it's been going on all over the world for years, not a new craze I don't think it's a new craze, but what seems to be is getting the footage of these celebrations online and sharing with their mates saying I was there, look at Jack going mental blah blah, 'utter scenes' etc.. Like some sort of competition to be at the 'craziest' place and look at me I was there innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Maybe the answer to the beer throwing stupidity would be to serve drinks in proper glasses. Sure they number of people who can't possibly refrain from acting the fool will drop. Granted, there may be one or two flaws in my plan, but I reckon it's worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Glad it was just beer at the races. #Ayling ha ha, who knows? Probably not… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Maybe the answer to the beer throwing stupidity would be to serve drinks in proper glasses. Sure they number of people who can't possibly refrain from acting the fool will drop. Granted, there may be one or two flaws in my plan, but I reckon it's worth a try. Not so sure, Can see innocent people getting hurt by flying / broken glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undy English Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, chowie said: I don't think it's a new craze, but what seems to be is getting the footage of these celebrations online and sharing with their mates saying I was there, look at Jack going mental blah blah, 'utter scenes' etc.. Like some sort of competition to be at the 'craziest' place and look at me I was there innit. This guy has hit the nail on the head. It's all about social media for people these days, who was most soaked in beer, who was in the most crazy crowd etc. Quite sad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 28 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Maybe the answer to the beer throwing stupidity would be to serve drinks in proper glasses. Sure they number of people who can't possibly refrain from acting the fool will drop. Granted, there may be one or two flaws in my plan, but I reckon it's worth a try. Or , and this won't be popular, put the price of drinks up so only rich cretins will waste it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: On twitter there's a trend this tournament to film the craziest goal celebrations.. usually involving beer throwing, limbs and general destruction. That'll explain the bean bag thing. I think this statue thing is pretty straightforward really.. just the result of people drinking. Would've happened with any post-war generation since football has been a spectator sport. Alcohol + sun + England winning does things to people! Unfortunately, England losing invariably does a lot worse. Does anybody recall when England lost to Germany on penalties back in 1996? There were numerous accounts of German cars being vandalised by 'supporters' coming home after watching the match in the pub: not actually German registered cars, mind you, just German cars; BMWs, Mercedes, Audi, VW and the like - the same mentality as those who vandalised the house of the local paediatrician in revenge for his suspected child abuse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 28 minutes ago, Super said: Not so sure, Can see innocent people getting hurt by flying / broken glass. Might be me, but I think you have just been whooshed Seriously, there seems to be a hell of a lot of cans being thrown. As far as I’m aware the club doesn’t sell cans, so I guess fans must be allowed to bring their own in? If so that surprises me, you can’t at football because a)they want to sell drink to you and b) the safety aspect. And if cans are allowed in are glass bottles too? Is there stewarding, or is it just a free for all. I’m sure many people haven’t gone there as they don’t want to pay £4.50 a pint or whatever it is, but if it’s a free for all bring your own with no stewarding I can see loads going down for the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 minute ago, RedM said: Might be me, but I think you have just been whooshed Seriously, there seems to be a hell of a lot of cans being thrown. As far as I’m aware the club doesn’t sell cans, so I guess fans must be allowed to bring their own in? If so that surprises me, you can’t at football because a)they want to sell it to you and b) the safety aspect. And if cans are allowed in are glass bottles too? Is there stewarding, or is it just a free for all. I’m sure many people haven’t gone there as they don’t want to pay £4.50 a pint or whatever it is, but if it’s a free for all bring your own with no stewarding I can see loads going down for the next game. Could it be the external vendors that were selling cans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 They were stopping people bringing in their own drinks, but I'm sure plenty were brought in on the sly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, RedLionLad said: Could it be the external vendors that were selling cans? Yes, but my point is are they allowed/encouraged to be brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, nebristolred said: They were stopping people bringing in their own drinks, but I'm sure plenty were brought in on the sly. They? So there was stewarding of some sort? A few cans are fairly bulky, not like anyone is wearing coats this time of year so should be easy to spot. We have bag searches at football and can’t bring in drink. I wasn’t there, just curious to know what the policy is, whether byo was encouraged or not. But if they aren’t stopping it it’s no wonder cans are being thrown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said: I've had beer thrown over me up at the races, not a new thing at all. I'm sure it's been going on all over the world for years, not a new craze Yeah it's been going on for years and years. Gigs, festivals etc are another example where it happens - seemed to happen every time I ever saw Oasis for example. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't always just beer either!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, RedM said: They? So there was stewarding of some sort? A few cans are fairly bulky, not like anyone is wearing coats this time of year so should be easy to spot. We have bag searches at football and can’t bring in drink. I wasn’t there, just curious to know what the policy is, whether byo was encouraged or not. But if they aren’t stopping it it’s no wonder cans are being thrown. B&M probably sell a lot of cans during these games.......at £1 per can too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 pints of thatchers please. That’s 18 pound thank you. How much he says Gives them to his mates . England score and they throw it all up in the air . Madness. Also on a side note . The club advertised friendly family day out . Was thinking about taking the boy down there Thursday. Don’t think I will bother now . Just imagine one of those cans hitting your child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, spudski said: Like I said...sad state of affairs, where you need 'Authority' to think ahead, because certain people can't control themselves. Just wish everyone could be civilised. Not particularly sad if you look at in in context. Easily manageable and predictable alcohol fuelled exuberance. Something that knows no generational and cultural boundary. Tame compared to a eighties punk or thrash metal gig. Very tame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: B&M probably sell a lot of cans during these games.......at £1 per can too. Exactly. 4 cans for the cost of less than one pint from the club, just really surprised people are getting in with them. Ok heavy handed stewarding/policing shouldn’t be needed in events like this, but there is a fine line before it gets out of hand and the more people drink the more that is likely to happen. I heard this morning that many cars had been leafleted with Don’t drink and drive flyers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Cowshed said: Not particularly sad if you look at in in context. Easily manageable and predictable alcohol fuelled exuberance. Something that knows no generational and cultural boundary. Tame compared to a eighties punk or thrash metal gig. Very tame. But this is being billed as a family friendly place to watch the football, can’t see many parents taking their kids into a thrash gig. You aren’t talking about the same circumstances are you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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