Davefevs Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Yeh ‘whooshball’ - so many blinkered, bandwagon views on Cardiff...have a look at this from 34 secs in..... Thanks. They don’t arf play at pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox6060 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 7 hours ago, REDOXO said: Nope me neither. Bloke has one good season refuses to extend his contract and Colin offers 10m. What are you going to do if youre City. No brainier I don't care either, it's a good move for him, no point treading water with us for maybe a year or two, get yourself in the Prem quick as poss, good fee for City too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Yeh ‘whooshball’ - so many blinkered, bandwagon views on Cardiff...have a look at this from 34 secs in..... Obviously they can play on the deck but it was hoofball when we went to theirs. Either way it's been effective for them and I can see Bobby working well running into the gaps off of a target man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Obviously they can play on the deck but it was hoofball when we went to theirs. Either way it's been effective for them and I can see Bobby working well running into the gaps off of a target man And our tactics were as much to blame that day don’t forget! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Outstanding business for City as he may 1. Prove a one season wonder like so many and 2. May well fail to make an impact in top flight. Plus excellent business for himself whatever the outcome So everyone happy and onwards City go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Thought we would lose Bobby and he deserves a go at the prem, just a shame its going to Baadiff and a relegation battle. They may be getting all excited signing our top scorer, but perhaps look back a year and see what happened when Tammy went into the Prem on the back of a similar run and how well it went with Swansea, who were a much better team than Baadiff. Although I will say Bobby brings much more than just goals. Would have been good to see what Bobby could have done in a settled mid table prem team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Davefevs said: And our tactics were as much to blame that day don’t forget! Oh yes definitely, our worst performance in a long time (until Brentford a few weeks later...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 12 hours ago, GrahamC said: Wondered if they might have been interested. Ideal move for him if true, no need presumably to leave BS5, a decent fee which along with the Magnússon, Flint (& presumably Bryan?) money we now need to re-invest. Think if he joins them though it answers the question as to how much of a fan he is.. Bit harsh Graham....not sure where BR has stated he is a City fan? no brainier for him getting a shot at the prem. I wish him all the very best. I couldn’t care less it’s Cardiff either. I dislike them but they ain’t the g*s. It’s great business for us given he has a year left to run and has had one good season. In all honesty I’m not sure he’s up to the prem but we will see. good luck bobby I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: Cardiff don’t play whooshball. So many sucked into believing that. They are physical, they play one / two touch stuff, not tiki-taka I accept, but they play forward every time they can, as quickly as possible and into their wide-men as much as possible. So they play vertically? Which essentially is getting the ball forward into the opposition half as quickly as possible using the least amount of passes and hitting Zohore frequently with long balls. Cardiff out balls was hitting the centre forward not feet. Cardiff played the least amount of accurate passes in the championship, they had the worst passing accuracy and passed the ball less than anybody. Only Barnsley had a higher % of long balls played, but Barnsley did pass the ball more. It might not be whoosh, but it was certainly whooshy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 I like Bobby and like his attitude, but he was a bit of a one season wonder with one year left on his contract. If we didn't cash in on him now, he could go for nothing next year. I'm sorry to see him go and hope he is a great success in the future,, though I think he might struggle a bit in the prem. He certainly wont score 20 next season. For Baadiff it is a decent gamble bearing in mind the money they will get as a result of promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cowshed said: So they play vertically? Which essentially is getting the ball forward into the opposition half as quickly as possible using the least amount of passes and hitting Zohore frequently with long balls. Cardiff out balls was hitting the centre forward not feet. Cardiff played the least amount of accurate passes in the championship, they had the worst passing accuracy and passed the ball less than anybody. Only Barnsley had a higher % of long balls played, but Barnsley did pass the ball more. It might not be whoosh, but it was certainly whooshy. Whooshy Great left winger him!!! Seriously though, don’t disagree, but it wasn’t everything up to Zahore....their use of early balls to Hoilett and Mendez-Laing (and Zahore) stretches the game, that in some way means the passes are longer,but not like aimless punts of John Beck / Dave Bassett team. There was purpose to their passing, 1 x 20 yard pass rather that 10 x 5 yard passes back and forth to achieve the same 20 yards. Any stats on the two wingers above in terms of dribbles, crosses, completed crosses etc? And his those compare to the rest of the Champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Taylor10 said: Bit harsh Graham....not sure where BR has stated he is a City fan? no brainier for him getting a shot at the prem. I wish him all the very best. I couldn’t care less it’s Cardiff either. I dislike them but they ain’t the g*s. It’s great business for us given he has a year left to run and has had one good season. In all honesty I’m not sure he’s up to the prem but we will see. good luck bobby I say. My arse. Hope he's shit for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: My arse. Hope he's shit for them. Why is that? Just because it's Cardiff? I don't really care that much where he's gone. If he does well at Cardiff and gets another big move, we'd get more money through a sell on clause. It's in our interest for him to do well there, just as it is for Flint at Middlesbrough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 I mean. Yeah, were ******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 The brilliant news is that Tomlin is not part of the deal. Looking from a fan's perspective, I'm not sure if I would think that £10 whole million spent on a player with one outstanding season only is anything other than risky. This face does not look bovvered. If ANYONE had said this time last year that our very own Bobby would leave for £10 million within a year they would have been laughed off the forum. The role LJ has played in this gives me a bit more confidence albeit only a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Why is that? Just because it's Cardiff? I don't really care that much where he's gone. If he does well at Cardiff and gets another big move, we'd get more money through a sell on clause. It's in our interest for him to do well there, just as it is for Flint at Middlesbrough. Yeah, because it's Cardiff. I won't wish him every success in his new venture because it's the same as wishing Cardiff success in the Premier League. If he does well but Cardiff don't I'd be delighted mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: The brilliant news is that Tomlin is not part of the deal. Looking from a fan's perspective, I'm not sure if I would think that £10 whole million spent on a player with one outstanding season only is anything other than risky. This face does not look bovvered. If ANYONE had said this time last year that our very own Bobby would leave for £10 million within a year they would have been laughed off the forum. The role LJ has played in this gives me a bit more confidence albeit only a bit. Remember the derision when LJ said Reid could be a £5m player? Turns out he is a £10m player. So LJ got it wrong again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 15 hours ago, oldstandrobin said: To think when I was 12, I had a trial for the City and when they told me I could be one of the best strikers , I laughed and turned my back on them............they were right, I was in the National Union of Miners and was constantly striking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, chinapig said: Remember the derision when LJ said Reid could be a £5m player? Turns out he is a £10m player. So LJ got it wrong again. Hell he’d be 12-15m with 2 more years on his contract instead of 1 Also imagine if LJ’s comments all doubled. We’d be in europe this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 31 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: The brilliant news is that Tomlin is not part of the deal. Looking from a fan's perspective, I'm not sure if I would think that £10 whole million spent on a player with one outstanding season only is anything other than risky. This face does not look bovvered. If ANYONE had said this time last year that our very own Bobby would leave for £10 million within a year they would have been laughed off the forum. The role LJ has played in this gives me a bit more confidence albeit only a bit. I remember LJ saying 'if Reid adds goals to his game he'd be a 5m player' and people laughed at that! - That quote doesn't get dragged up as often as ones which paint LJ in a bad light though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Presumably we're likely to see a picture today of a grinning Young Bobby holding up a blue and white scarf with a Bluebird on his chest? Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I remember LJ saying 'if Reid adds goals to his game he'd be a 5m player' and people laughed at that! - That quote doesn't get dragged up as often as ones which paint LJ in a bad light though.. A broken clock is right twice a day. His nostradamus predictions dont help us when we can barely get a win for months at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 minute ago, simon uk said: A broken clock is right twice a day. His nostradamus predictions dont help us when we can barely get a win for months at a time. A pretty big call to make at the time though. He obviously saw something in Reid that many of our own fans, myself included, couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Musicworks Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 It will be a very interesting season seeing how Bobby gets on. I wish him all the best (individually not for his team) but am very much in the ‘has been well looked after over difficult years then jumps ship after one good season’ camp. What will be interesting is whether the encouragement and support he obviously got from LJ in particular and the Bristol City ‘comfort blanket’ is taken away whether the newly emerged Bobby continues to shine in the Warnock world with all the accompanying pressures or whether the old Bobby re-emerges if things don’t go so well against Premier League defenders and where with a £10m price tag fans may not be so forgiving with him not being ‘one of their own’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Hell he’d be 12-15m with 2 more years on his contract instead of 1 Also imagine if LJ’s comments all doubled. We’d be in europe this year Or we’d be in Europe in 10 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: Whooshy Great left winger him!!! Seriously though, don’t disagree, but it wasn’t everything up to Zahore....their use of early balls to Hoilett and Mendez-Laing (and Zahore) stretches the game, that in some way means the passes are longer,but not like aimless punts of John Beck / Dave Bassett team. There was purpose to their passing, 1 x 20 yard pass rather that 10 x 5 yard passes back and forth to achieve the same 20 yards. Any stats on the two wingers above in terms of dribbles, crosses, completed crosses etc? And his those compare to the rest of the Champ. Without wanting to sounding rude. Cardiff passes are long and frequent. Attached is Cardiff City passing map v Derby. It is lopsided. There is a lack of passing in the centre of the pitch because it is bypassed. It is a long passing team. Here is Fulham's map v Millwall. A short passing team. Both maps display different purposes. Cardiff go vertical looking to get a foothold in territory by frequent vertical (long/whooshes/targetted) penetration it is in line with Beck/Bassett and pomo only not as overt. Any team who lose the ball as frequently a Cardiff can only at times be punting it - Mr Warnock instructs them to. Fulham look to probe and move the opposition to gain that territory. Both are playing invasion football very very differently. I started on a comparison matrix for Hoilett … Then gave up because my head was going to explode. Summary he is very good and near the top at assists and chances created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihai Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 With 10 millions we can do better in the transfer market, than he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: A pretty big call to make at the time though. He obviously saw something in Reid that many of our own fans, myself included, couldn't. And then worked with him to deliver it. He doesn’t get much credit for that IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Presumably we're likely to see a picture today of a grinning Young Bobby holding up a blue and white scarf with a Bluebird on his chest? Can't wait. Unless Cardiff keep up the tradition of reverting to their Red Dragon jerseys when they're in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red as fcuk Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 40 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: And then worked with him to deliver it. He doesn’t get much credit for that IMO. Exactly right. He only gets credited with the things that go wrong. Anything good is clearly a fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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