Finley_Smith10 Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 At this moment in time what dyou think is our strongest line up atm? Mine is Fielding Pisano Webster Baker Kelly COD Smith Pack Brownhill Paterson Fammy Bryan replacing Pato if stays but highly unlikely imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Based on the players here today: Fielding Pisano Webster Baker Bryan Watkins Pack Smith O’Dowda Brownhill Diedhiou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 At the rate players are leaving i’d say it will be ANO x 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Packs of to Watford for 4 mill ain’t he ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Far too early for this, there will be more ins and outs to come yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 As it currently stands, for 1st game: Fielding Wright, Webster, Baker, Bryan () Brownhill, Pack, Smith Watkins, Taylor, O’Dowda Subs: O’Leary, Pisano, Kelly, Hegeler, Djúric, Eliasson, Paterson Those not getting changed: Vyner, Moore, Walsh, Bakinson, Morrell, Hinds, McCoulsky Those not available: Diedhiou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 11 hours ago, Finley_Smith10 said: At this moment in time what dyou think is our strongest line up atm? Mine is Fielding Pisano Webster Baker Kelly COD Smith Pack Brownhill Paterson Fammy Bryan replacing Pato if stays but highly unlikely imo Certainly not with Pisano..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 If Bryan and pack do go I'd like to see this... Fielding Vyner Webster Baker kelly Watkins Brownhill Smith COD Elliasson Diedhiou Lots of energy there, new keeper needed and if Joe does go a new left back plus new centre mid as well which would allow odowda to go out wide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 No room for A Triallist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 4 hours ago, JBFC II said: If Bryan and pack do go I'd like to see this... Fielding Vyner Webster Baker kelly Watkins Brownhill Smith COD Elliasson Diedhiou Lots of energy there, new keeper needed and if Joe does go a new left back plus new centre mid as well which would allow odowda to go out wide I sincerely hope not. Without disrespecting those players you have mentioned that team has got relegation battle written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Pugh Pugh. Barney Mcgrew. Cuthbert. Dibble. & Grubb for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 38 minutes ago, bris red said: I sincerely hope not. Without disrespecting those players you have mentioned that team has got relegation battle written all over it. I'd agree but at the minute that's the best I can think of, depending on whether pack and joe stay. A few additional signings and that's a mid table team though in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 So - I think it was mentioned that Webster is left footed is that correct? In which case it seems like him next to Baker might not be an ideal combo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said: So - I think it was mentioned that Webster is left footed is that correct? In which case it seems like him next to Baker might not be an ideal combo? He's very much two footed. Predominantly a lefty but he can use both. Even then it can be helpful for pressing. There have been plenty of quality defensive pairings who were both left footed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Pugh Pugh. Barney Mcgrew. Cuthbert. Dibble. & Grubb for sure. Not sure if Grubb is good enough. Also if both Pugh brothers are in the team and we re-sign the Rougier twins does that mean we break a world record for the number of siblings in the starting eleven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 I'd move away from 442 fielding RCB - Wright CB - Webster LCB - Baker RWB - O'Dowda LWB - Bryan CM - Brownhill CM - Pack CM - Smith ST - Taylor ST - Diedhiou I'd expect a new striker so Taylor there for now out of who we have, could have put Paterson in a free role with Diedhiou. Think O'Dowda could play wing back, definitely willing to put a defensive shift in. Think Vyner would slot in well instead of Wright if we give him exposure over time. The players involved can also switch to a 442 if needed without a sub being made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Still very much hypothetical so only a bit of fun at this stage, but I like some of the 4-3-3/4-5-1's that are being thrown around so I'd go (transfers and Diedhiou's suspension aside): Fielding Pisano Webster Baker Bryan Smith Pack Brownhill Watkins Diedhiou O'Dowda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 13 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Pugh Pugh. Barney Mcgrew. Cuthbert. Dibble. & Grubb for sure. I think if we just start with six players we could well be handing Forest the advantage. Try it against Plymouth in the cup by all means but not in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneyrubble Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Think Joe will definitely be off just matter of when. Likewise Pack appears to be going to.Fammy has 6 match ban. With above in mind think we need as a minimum 2 fullbacks.Central midfielder who can create goals and hit set pieces,experienced would be good. Finally quality centre forward with proven record. With the cash we have generated 4 players is not out of reach even if we have to pay high for a centre forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 16 hours ago, ZiderEyed said: He's very much two footed. Predominantly a lefty but he can use both. Even then it can be helpful for pressing. There have been plenty of quality defensive pairings who were both left footed. Like who? I can’t think of any off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Far too early to even attempt this. Be amazed if we don’t have 4 more new players by the Forest game & probably two more will have left, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Pack Pack Pack Pack Pack Pack Pack Pack Pack Pack Pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, David Brent said: Pack Pack Pack Pack Pack Pack Pack Pack Pack Pack Pack You`re packing the midfield then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Like who? I can’t think of any off the top of my head. Materazzi and Samuel. Chiellini and Romagnoli. It's about splitting the pitch in two isn't it, one of the main reasons people are desperate for a R and L next to each other. Passing lanes are opened up more when you've got a lefty and a righty next to each other. The other issue you get with, for example a lefty at RCB is you're dropping off with your right shoulder, so you have to be capable with your right anyway. Webster as far as I'm aware is two footed though. IMO if you had Webster next to Baker the team would need time to familiarize and get used to the angles of passing that two left foot dominant centre backs would create. There'd have to be minimal rotation which is obviously not ideal with both of their injury histories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Seeing a lot of Pisano's/Wrights in peoples teams. We need a right back then!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: You`re packing the midfield then? Yes. The midfield will press as a Pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 24 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Materazzi and Samuel. Chiellini and Romagnoli. It's about splitting the pitch in two isn't it, one of the main reasons people are desperate for a R and L next to each other. Passing lanes are opened up more when you've got a lefty and a righty next to each other. The other issue you get with, for example a lefty at RCB is you're dropping off with your right shoulder, so you have to be capable with your right anyway. Webster as far as I'm aware is two footed though. IMO if you had Webster next to Baker the team would need time to familiarize and get used to the angles of passing that two left foot dominant centre backs would create. There'd have to be minimal rotation which is obviously not ideal with both of their injury histories. Which makes you wonder why, if you are looking to replace a RCB, you go out and buy a leftie? Yes I expect you can 'get round it', but when you know EXACTLY what position you are filling why not buy someone who is a perfect for it. Just sounds a bit like creating a problem before you start. Unless Wright plays with one of Baker/Webster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, David Brent said: Yes. The midfield will press as a Pack. It looks like the midfield players can easily interchange with the back four and the front two if the game dictates too. This could be a goer - I do have reservations about your choice of keeper though (unless we`re playing rush goalies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, robin_unreliant said: Which makes you wonder why, if you are looking to replace a RCB, you go out and buy a leftie? Yes I expect you can 'get round it', but when you know EXACTLY what position you are filling why not buy someone who is a perfect for it. Just sounds a bit like creating a problem before you start. Unless Wright plays with one of Baker/Webstsr? I expect Webster will play next to Baker on the right simply by the virtue of him being relatively two footed. Who knows if there was a ball playing, young, Championship experienced centre back of high ability and potential to improve, who was also right footed and available for around £5m? It's quite the criteria to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Materazzi and Samuel. Chiellini and Romagnoli. It's about splitting the pitch in two isn't it, one of the main reasons people are desperate for a R and L next to each other. Passing lanes are opened up more when you've got a lefty and a righty next to each other. The other issue you get with, for example a lefty at RCB is you're dropping off with your right shoulder, so you have to be capable with your right anyway. Webster as far as I'm aware is two footed though. IMO if you had Webster next to Baker the team would need time to familiarize and get used to the angles of passing that two left foot dominant centre backs would create. There'd have to be minimal rotation which is obviously not ideal with both of their injury histories. Ah, you had to go to Italy....I’ve lost touch since CM97 Italia version I agree with all you say, it makes a lot of sense. The only thing that I’d counter with is where it restricts who marks who. My example was Flint and Magnússon v Blackburn in 16/17. Perfect R&L combo in theory. However Sam Gallagher made sure for every dead ball he stood in the left channel (between Mags and our LB - probably Bryan). Their keeper kicked everything down that channel and although Mags stood up well to the physical challenge, Gallagher won lots of flicks (luckily to no-one) and occasionally strong enough to get it on his chest. I couldn’t help thinking that had we been more versatile, Flint could’ve came over and took on the challenge of the aerial stuff. Who knows, Gallagher might end of thinking Flint’s gonna follow me, I might as way stay Central, and we win the mini-battle. Another potential problem is that where one plays right and one plays left, CBs become too keen to pass-on a player to their partner, when sometimes you’d be better staying with him. Hogan at Brentford was magnificent at being marked by Flint, but as he moved into Mags’s zone, Flint would pass him on. However Hogan would then change him run back towards Flint, and no-one would be marking him. I think he had about 4 one-on-ones in 20 minutes that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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