Andreas Weimann - Now Confirmed - 3 Year Deal

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

31 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

The discussion ends when there is an adequate explanation for the failure.

Nobody said it was easy, that's why MA and LJ are well paid it's their job and they failed. However last January should have been made easier by our success and we failed to cash in on it.

I see you chose to mention the players but not the manager in your reasoning?

 

I’m not really sure I want to perpetuate this further, but I have to ask what would be an adequate explanation for you? I suspect that whatever was said you would find flaw with or choose not to believe. 

[cidered abroad]

8 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

As far as I can remember the only mid season signing we have made that gained us promotion in our final push was Arthur Milton in February 1955. We went up to the old second division that season and Milton duly retired from football.  He was a stylish winger who was fast, direct, and an excellent crosser of the ball.  I can see him still in my mind's eye hurtling down the wing.  The best I have seen at Ashton Gate and our only winger, I think, to have had an England cap, although of course when he was playing for Arsenal.  

PS We paid £4000 for him in 1955!  An investment well worth the cash!

Very good value! Rumour had it that he retired because nobody at City asked him to stay on. 

The last double sport international. Football and cricket. 

[Luxo Jr.]

1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Pete O'Rourke (I believe it's the real one) is saying on Twitter that he's having a medical now.

If it's the real one (I know there is a few fake versions of him on there) then this is true because he is very reliable.

He no longer has his blue tick so wasn't 100% sure but his handle on Twitter is @SportsPeteO if anyone wants to check.

Yeah, still him, still reliable, he just writes for HITC and others now I believe, rather than Sky Sports.

[Phileas Fogg]

1 minute ago, Luxo Jr. said:

Yeah, still him, still reliable, he just writes for HITC and others now I believe, rather than Sky Sports.

Thought it was the right guy, that's good then - this is happening.

[BRISTOL86]

Excellent. Genuinely can’t understand the negativity about this one. Ticks all the boxes for what we’ve been crying out for. Hard working, experienced, versatile, decent end product for his position (he’s not a striker!!) and a very good fee for someone of his experience. 

Really good signing. 

[Major Isewater]

3 hours ago, JoeAman08 said:

Weimann played 42 times in the league for Derby last season. The Derby who made playoffs. We would be signing a starter from a playoff team with over 100 games at championship and premier league level who is only 26 years old. Also played for his country. Contributed 11 goals being played in a less favoured position. This is literally the type of signing this forum says we should be after but when the name comes out there are still moaners. I will never understand. If you wrote a description of him and left out his name and used playoff team instead of Derby I think everyone would be more for it. Weird

Weirder Bremen ? 

[Phileas Fogg]

1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Excellent. Genuinely can’t understand the negativity about this one. Ticks all the boxes for what we’ve been crying out for. Hard working, experienced, versatile, decent end product for his position (he’s not a striker!!) and a very good fee for someone of his experience. 

Really good signing. 

What is the fee? Seen a few quoted - anything from £7m to £2m. If it's £2m that's an absolute steal.

[Major Isewater]

11 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Not the one from Newcastle then....Andreas Why Aye Man?

https://g.co/kgs/orZZvR

 

Steal my jokes why don't you ?

[pongo88]

16 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

As far as I can remember the only mid season signing we have made that gained us promotion in our final push was Arthur Milton in February 1955. We went up to the old second division that season and Milton duly retired from football.  He was a stylish winger who was fast, direct, and an excellent crosser of the ball.  I can see him still in my mind's eye hurtling down the wing.  The best I have seen at Ashton Gate and our only winger, I think, to have had an England cap, although of course when he was playing for Arsenal.  

PS We paid £4000 for him in 1955!  An investment well worth the cash!

Because he decided to retire at the end of the season, Arsenal refunded half of the fee!  I can’t imagine that happening now. He was an England cricket and football international and finished his working life as a postman. I can’t imagine that happening now either. 

[Port Said Red]

1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said:

What is the fee? Seen a few quoted - anything from £7m to £2m. If it's £2m that's an absolute steal.

I think from what I have read it's a fee of £2m but I think his sign on fee and wages takes the whole deal higher, for an international player with Prem experience at a good age, it sounds about right to me.

[Monkeh]

11 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Pete O'Rourke (I believe it's the real one) is saying on Twitter that he's having a medical now.

If it's the real one (I know there is a few fake versions of him on there) then this is true because he is very reliable.

He no longer has his blue tick so wasn't 100% sure but his handle on Twitter is @SportsPeteO if anyone wants to check.

83k followers so looks pretty legit

[Alex#40]

3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

What is the fee? Seen a few quoted - anything from £7m to £2m. If it's £2m that's an absolute steal.

Almost everywhere saying £2m, including some Derby press by the looks of Twitter. Good deal. Even with all the outgoings if a top keeper, Webster, Wiemann and Marriott were it I'd be relatively happy!

[handsofclay]

18 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

As far as I can remember the only mid season signing we have made that gained us promotion in our final push was Arthur Milton in February 1955. We went up to the old second division that season and Milton duly retired from football.  He was a stylish winger who was fast, direct, and an excellent crosser of the ball.  I can see him still in my mind's eye hurtling down the wing.  The best I have seen at Ashton Gate and our only winger, I think, to have had an England cap, although of course when he was playing for Arsenal.  

PS We paid £4000 for him in 1955!  An investment well worth the cash!

Are you sure we paid 4K for him in 1955? 4K would've bought 2 semi detached houses back then so works out at about 400K in today's money. It seems a heck of a lot for a player who only played for 3 months with us before retiring.

As for mid season signings who helped us to promotion, there was that Scottish striker who played quite well for us when we were promoted under Joe Jordan. I have the name Ferguson in my mind, but I'm not sure. Think he was on loan from Hearts.

[Monkeh]

1 minute ago, Alex#40 said:

Almost everywhere saying £2m, including some Derby press by the looks of Twitter. Good deal. Even with all the outgoings if a top keeper, Webster, Wiemann and Marriott were it I'd be relatively happy!

got to be pleased with getting him so cheaply 

[BRISTOL86]

5 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

What is the fee? Seen a few quoted - anything from £7m to £2m. If it's £2m that's an absolute steal.

£2m seems to be the reported figure but as always with City we’ll never know! Bound to be add ons etc 

[Phileas Fogg]

3 minutes ago, Alex#40 said:

Almost everywhere saying £2m, including some Derby press by the looks of Twitter. Good deal. Even with all the outgoings if a top keeper, Webster, Wiemann and Marriott were it I'd be relatively happy!

 

4 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

I think from what I have read it's a fee of £2m but I think his sign on fee and wages takes the whole deal higher, for an international player with Prem experience at a good age, it sounds about right to me.

Thanks - yep fantastic fee. Amazing that we kept this seemingly pretty quiet - would've thought lots of clubs at this level would've liked him.

Although.. I wonder if the fee was low and kept private but by doing so we informally agree to drop out of the Marriot transfer and let Derby take him.

[Kid in the Riot]

49 minutes ago, J D said:

We've already got a prolific striker.

 

Diédhiou.

 

48 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

we still have fammy who will score if he stays fit,

It's not against league rules to have more than one goalscoring striker, lads.

[Andy082005]

16 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Excellent. Genuinely can’t understand the negativity about this one. Ticks all the boxes for what we’ve been crying out for. Hard working, experienced, versatile, decent end product for his position (he’s not a striker!!) and a very good fee for someone of his experience. 

Really good signing. 

I actually agree with you (steady)

Experienced at this level and has a decent pedigree. Will hopefully be a good signing 

I'm happy (again...steady)...with our incomings so far. 

Still a long way off filling the voids of those leaving, and those positions that needed filling anyway . Hopefully a few more to come in 

[Devereux]

1 hour ago, nebristolred said:

That would be cracking business. Though I fear it's one or the other 

They are very different players, so I would hope not.

[Selred]

27 minutes ago, RedM said:

Is this still ongoing?  I thought it was all done and it was only announced once we had done all the appeals. Interesting. Would be good if each player started the season with a clean slate, unless obvious bans for drugs or something. Yes the alleged spitting is disgusting and should be punished as we have all discussed, but maybe some sort of suspended sentence going into the new season, if players do anything again they are punished more harshly, eg one booking equals two etc. 

It must be hard if Diedhiou to get motivated to play when he knows he can’t. Preseason and before could be affected. He might not his place back easily if we are successful, or have more pressure on him once he comes back if we are already playing catch-up. 

Sorry Red M but I completely disagree. 

They get a clean slate in terms of yellow cards, that’s it and that’s right. 

Anything worthy of a ban deserves it to be continued. They are banned for a reason. 

If Diedhiou can’t get motivated for pre-season because of it then that’s fully his fault, he should of spat at someone in the first place, if guilty. 

[BRISTOL86]

6 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

I actually agree with you

That’s one for my signature  

Agreed, work to do, but early signs on our recruitment this season are encouraging. Signing Marriott now would get me excited. 

[handsofclay]

13 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

 

It's not against league rules to have more than one goalscoring striker, lads.

Yes, but it would be unfair on other teams in the division.

[cityal]

Just now, Selred said:

Sorry Red M but I completely disagree. 

They get a clean slate in terms of yellow cards, that’s it and that’s right. 

Anything worthy of a ban deserves it to be continued. They are banned for a reason. 

If Diedhiou can’t get motivated for pre-season because of it then that’s fully his fault, he should of spat at someone in the first place, if guilty. 

Absolutely agree -- imagine the potential chaos last game of the season if bans don't carry over to the season

How would we feel if Leon Clarke had in the last home game of  last season elbowed Kelly and got himself sent off with a few minutes remaining but was able to start for Sheffield as the new season opened? What is the punishment then?

 

[ollywhyte]

I wonder if LJ is going to use him as a striker. He has the same work ethic Bobby had and maybe with a positional change, he could thrive in front of goal as well? Good signing. Like how we are complementing our young squad with experienced Championship players, who are still at an age where they can improve and aspire to play in the Premier League as well.

Excited!

[Esmond Million's Bung]

41 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

I’m not really sure I want to perpetuate this further, but I have to ask what would be an adequate explanation for you? I suspect that whatever was said you would find flaw with or choose not to believe. 

Just the truth, pure and simple.

SL intimated in his corporate way that he was not enthused by what happened in January, so that leaves MA/LJ.

For my money somebody got carried away with our ongoing success and only had a plan A list and when they proved impossible for whatever reason there was no plan B and it was too late.

I am fed up squeezing square pegs into round holes, like we did at right back for pretty much the whole season and not finding a specialist right back in January beggars belief, I am fed up with bringing injured players back far too early because our back up players are not up to the mark and I am fed up with hearing the phrase 'there is a good player in there somewhere' especially 1 to 2 years down the line, Tammy excepted I am disappointed with the lack of quality of our loan signings.

Most of the above should be the basics for a professional football club, let us hope that the lessons are learnt quickly and are not repeated, I am not holding my breath.

# I would just like to add one thing and that is, not finding out the reasons for what happened last season only leaves people to speculate about the qualities or lack of of our manager, because he will ultimately carry the can, the time for excuses are over and now we need consistency and the belief that the manager has the tools to overcome all problems, without any excuses.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

32 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Excellent. Genuinely can’t understand the negativity about this one. Ticks all the boxes for what we’ve been crying out for. Hard working, experienced, versatile, decent end product for his position (he’s not a striker!!) and a very good fee for someone of his experience. 

Really good signing. 

I agree and for me the one to get excited about so far.

For me ticks all the boxes and if true at a good price.

[Davefevs]

3 minutes ago, ollywhyte said:

I wonder if LJ is going to use him as a striker. He has the same work ethic Bobby had and maybe with a positional change, he could thrive in front of goal as well? Good signing. Like how we are complementing our young squad with experienced Championship players, who are still at an age where they can improve and aspire to play in the Premier League as well.

Excited!

At 26, he’s got several good years in front of him too.  I think our average age team last season (minutes played) was c25....and we were one of the youngest.

Good signing imho.

[BCFC_95]

4 minutes ago, cityal said:

Absolutely agree -- imagine the potential chaos last game of the season if bans don't carry over to the season

How would we feel if Leon Clarke had in the last home game of  last season elbowed Kelly and got himself sent off with a few minutes remaining but was able to start for Sheffield as the new season opened? What is the punishment then?

 

Exactly what I was going to say, other teams feeling complete unjust when someone who should be banned pops up and scores against them, not worth thinking about it! I’d be fuming if Fammy was a Forrest player and banned for 6 games, first game of a new season and he’s playing and scored against us!!

[Port Said Red]

2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

Just the truth, pure and simple.

SL intimated in his corporate way that he was not enthused by what happened in January, so that leaves MA/LJ.

For my money somebody got carried away with our ongoing success and only had a plan A list and when they proved impossible for whatever reason there was no plan B and it was too late.

I am fed up squeezing square pegs into round holes, like we did at right back for pretty much the whole season and not finding a specialist right back in January beggars belief, I am fed up with bringing injured players back far too early because our back up players are not up to the mark and I am fed up with hearing the phrase 'there is a good player in there somewhere' especially 1 to 2 years down the line, Tammy excepted I am disappointed with the lack of quality of our loan signings.

Most of the above should be the basics for a professional football club, let us hope that the lessons are learnt quickly and are not repeated, I am not holding my breath.

I actually think the process is working quite well, signing lots of potential and developing our own, you will get of chafe in the wheat. Now we have sold some of the wheat for good prices and seem to be looking to bring in some experience to complement the remaining wheat that is still developing. I certainly prefer this to the previous seasons of throwing around money and hoping some it lands on red when the wheel stops. It's never going to be quick enough for some, but that's the nature of any business plan.

[italian dave]

7 minutes ago, BCFC_95 said:

Exactly what I was going to say, other teams feeling complete unjust when someone who should be banned pops up and scores against them, not worth thinking about it! I’d be fuming if Fammy was a Forrest player and banned for 6 games, first game of a new season and he’s playing and scored against us!!

I agree, but what still puzzles me is why - in line with league rules - this wasn't dealt with immediately and the ban start the following game. If that had happened he'd have served 4 of the games already. Why was it left for the best part of a month? That's the bit I feel is unfair to us and to the player.