pillred Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 3 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: I was there for 2 games, despite what the media might say the Russians were definitely supporting us in the main not sure about the other 2 games, if you were there obviously you are in a better position to judge, but last night it felt like practically the whole stadium were behind Colombia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 I was weir 2 hours ago, EmissionImpossible said: I’m really enjoying this World Cup but I was trying to put my finger on why there seems to be such a lack of quality. It’s bizarre. Compared to previous world cups there just doesn’t seem to be the amount of good players involved, Messi and Ronaldo are both unbelievable but that tier just below them really doesn’t have too many players in. Of course it could just be the tactics or out of form players etc but it does seem odd A theory that comes to mind - which could be complete bollocks - is that the game is changing in a way where it is less about individual brilliance and more about team ethics and pulling off a game plan. You could make an argument that Argentina, Portugal and even Brazil have struggled for fluency during the tournament due to the fact there is one exceptional player the other players seem to rely on. The teams that are succeeding are functioning as units rather than individuals so fewer players stand out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Reflecting on last night; during extra time the Colombians played a neat passing game and looked threatening. Perhaps if they had done that from the start instead of the heavy stuff, they might have won. Interesting comment on Radio 2 this morning. A Columbian was booked for head butting an English player as that was foul play. Why therefore was a penalty not awarded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, pillred said: not sure about the other 2 games, if you were there obviously you are in a better position to judge, but last night it felt like practically the whole stadium were behind Colombia. 30,000 Columbians but only 2,000 England fans in the stadium according to one TV channel this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, 22A said: Reflecting on last night; during extra time the Colombians played a neat passing game and looked threatening. Perhaps if they had done that from the start instead of the heavy stuff, they might have won. Interesting comment on Radio 2 this morning. A Columbian was booked for head butting an English player as that was foul play. Why therefore was a penalty not awarded? Could of been a red but as the game was not in play it couldn't of been a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 23 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I was weir A theory that comes to mind - which could be complete bollocks - is that the game is changing in a way where it is less about individual brilliance and more about team ethics and pulling off a game plan. You could make an argument that Argentina, Portugal and even Brazil have struggled for fluency during the tournament due to the fact there is one exceptional player the other players seem to rely on. The teams that are succeeding are functioning as units rather than individuals so fewer players stand out. The teams with the least egos in it are coming through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Just reading there manager wasn’t happy with our constant play acting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 45 minutes ago, Super said: Sounds like Vardy was injured which was why he didn't take a penalty. Likely to miss Sweden game. Groin strain - going to impede him greatly with his reliance on bursts of pace Thankfully Kane produced one of the best demonstrations of a No 9 performance that I’ve seen for England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Super said: How many England fans were there last night mate? Looked like they were massively outnumbered by the Colombians. I’m baffled as to why all these poorer countries have such large followings? And yet ours is so poor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Groin strain - going to impede him greatly with his reliance on bursts of pace Thankfully Kane produced one of the best demonstrations of a No 9 performance that I’ve seen for England I was really impressed with his ability to draw a foul without the need of diving etc. He knew exactly how to position himself to get the other player to foul him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undy English Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I’m baffled as to why all these poorer countries have such large followings? And yet ours is so poor? We were just having this discussion in work :laugh:. 50,000 Colombians in Russia. Impressive stuff for a so-say developing nation just leaving the grips of the narco state/civil war era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KernowRed Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I’m baffled as to why all these poorer countries have such large followings? And yet ours is so poor? Putin probably had them brought in for next to nothing, our present political situtation with Russia sent the message we were not going to attend in masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I was really impressed with his ability to draw a foul without the need of diving etc. He knew exactly how to position himself to get the other player to foul him. Dropped deep or wide when we needed him - first touch brilliant , held the ball up and won us numerous free kicks Ice cool , totally professional and nerves of steel - maturity beyond his years What a role model for young footballers Think many thought us mad UTC when we were pleased we went behind to Belgium Not sure many would argue now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 52 minutes ago, Super said: Sounds like Vardy was injured which was why he didn't take a penalty. Likely to miss Sweden game. 5 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Groin strain - going to impede him greatly with his reliance on bursts of pace Thankfully Kane produced one of the best demonstrations of a No 9 performance that I’ve seen for England 3 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I was really impressed with his ability to draw a foul without the need of diving etc. He knew exactly how to position himself to get the other player to foul him. I really like Vardy. His pace is obvious but his first touch is brilliant, and that together makes him so dangerous. Kane was absolutely awesome last night. Lead the line but also dropped back into a MF area filing a hole where our MF should have been. He manages to show enough of the ball to make defenders interested, yet far enough away so they can't nick it. Read some where he is the most fouled forward at the World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Just reading there manager wasn’t happy with our constant play acting. Link please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, hodge said: Link please http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12098/11425618/colombia-manager-jose-pekerman-angry-at-england-players-after-world-cup-defeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12098/11425618/colombia-manager-jose-pekerman-angry-at-england-players-after-world-cup-defeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12098/11425618/colombia-manager-jose-pekerman-angry-at-england-players-after-world-cup-defeat That's a bit rich coming from the manager of the cheating bastards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 No mention of his back room staff trying to get at Sterling as he went off at HT then? Hypocrite. So glad we got the better of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 29 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Just reading there manager wasn’t happy with our constant play acting. Colombia were awful in that regard but to be fair McGuire dived and Lingard may have, both in the penalty box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Super said: Sounds like Vardy was injured which was why he didn't take a penalty. Likely to miss Sweden game. Perhaps he was carrying a knock into the tournament because for me Vardy has been anonymous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 55 minutes ago, 22A said: Reflecting on last night; during extra time the Colombians played a neat passing game and looked threatening. Perhaps if they had done that from the start instead of the heavy stuff, they might have won. Interesting comment on Radio 2 this morning. A Columbian was booked for head butting an English player as that was foul play. Why therefore was a penalty not awarded? Surely a head butt is a red card ? I thought that the ref bottled it for this incident . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, Robbored said: That's a bit rich coming from the manager of the cheating bastards... My observation at the time was that it was like playing a Warnock team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Fordy62 said: I had £200 on England to win in 90 mins. Glad the team didn't bottle it and cash out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 47 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I’m baffled as to why all these poorer countries have such large followings? And yet ours is so poor? No visa restrictions for any south American countries. For anyone from Europe there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North London Red Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Not the best quality, but here's a picture of a City flag at last night's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Surely a head butt is a red card ? I thought that the ref bottled it for this incident . VAR, sorted that one out. Apparently the rule says contact below the neck is a yellow, what they ignored was the movement upwards. They should have asked the Ref to take a look, I think he might have gone then. There is still a disconnect between VAR and the Refs, I think they are reluctant to get the Ref to review on screen as it takes time, one of the major (not you) criticisms of VAR. Shocking decision whatever way you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr Popodopolous Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 57 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I’m baffled as to why all these poorer countries have such large followings? And yet ours is so poor? Mix of reasons IMO. Pre tournament scare stories about Russia and hooligans running riot could well have put a fair few off. In South America the rich are very rich e.g. Brazil, they will be rich South Americans, like elite rich, Africans and the like in Russia. Just general negative perceptions of Russia maybe (boring country, stodgy, ex Soviet so why bother). Also what @Spoons said about visas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Mix of reasons IMO. Pre tournament scare stories about Russia and hooligans running riot could well have put a fair few off. In South America the rich are very rich e.g. Brazil, they will be rich South Americans, like elite rich, Africans and the like in Russia. Just general negative perceptions of Russia maybe (boring country, stodgy, ex Soviet so why bother). Also what @Spoons said about visas. Not sure about the visa thing. As long as you have a ticket for a match you can get a special visa for the tournament which is free. http://realrussia.co.uk/Info/WorldCup2018/Visa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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