Maldini Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Misleading thread title ahoy! Jens has co-founded a stats agency focusing on packing, 'Packing measures each time a forward pass or dribble is completed before, crucially, counting up how many opponents have been taken out or bypassed in the process. As an example, John Stones were to find Harry Kane with a forward pass against Sweden which Kane controlled successfully and that pass took out eight outfield opponents both Stones, as the player of the pass, and Kane, having received it, get a point for every player that was bypassed in the process to the England team’s overall tally of bypassed opponents eight would be added too. The correlation from Impect’s work shows that teams who on average get more points than their opponents in a game will win between 30-40 per cent of the time. Narrow that down to just the opponents’ defenders that you take out in a game and the correlation jumps to 60 per cent – something that no traditional statistic can rival, apart from goals scored of course. Eight of the teams making up the top nine in ‘net bypassed defenders’ for the World Cup group stages qualified for the last 16. That tells you something more about the correlation already but then consider that all those eight teams qualified without exception for the quarter-finals.' 'Next season, they will be working with data from the Premier League and the Championship for the first time and, as a result, teams in England with co-founder Jens Hegeler playing for Bristol City.' You'd assume City would be trialling this. Full article https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/packing-football-statistic-world-cup-england-v-sweden/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 There's only one way to beat them, get round the back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Wimbledon would have scored highly a few years ago. 10 then another 10, then another 10. HOOF!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Isn't this pretty much the job of data analysts in football nowadays? Many of them not only collect statistics from training/match days, but they build statistical models to gauge performance, and to indicate who might be best to play against who, who plays best with who, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 3 hours ago, EnderMB said: Isn't this pretty much the job of data analysts in football nowadays? Many of them not only collect statistics from training/match days, but they build statistical models to gauge performance, and to indicate who might be best to play against who, who plays best with who, etc. This is a bit more advanced than the standard thing analysts will do, it's why a company does it as they can dedicate all their time to just doing this and not everything else. Wonder what Pack's packing score is come across this before, can be very useful if used correctly, helps get rid of the ideas some players have where they will deliberately play loads of short easy passes to get their stats up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Jens was ambling around the Asdawls in Bedminster yesterday evening with his girlfriend. He's properly settled into BS3.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Fielding’s score must be astronomical, he often manages to bypass 21 other players with a single pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J D Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Fielding’s score must be astronomical, he often manages to bypass 21 other players with a single pass. He often manages to bypass about 21,000 sometimes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED4LIFE Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 53 minutes ago, The Bard said: Jens was ambling around the Asdawls in Bedminster yesterday evening with his girlfriend. He's properly settled into BS3.. Tbf, I'm surprised that walking around there didn't make him immediately ask for a transfer. Jeremy Kyle is the only person that would be happy walking around there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 5 hours ago, Ska Junkie said: Wimbledon would have scored highly a few years ago. 10 then another 10, then another 10. HOOF!!!! You jest but it’s true,half the nonsense they come out with now is total nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, The Bard said: Jens was ambling around the Asdawls in Bedminster yesterday evening with his girlfriend. He's properly settled into BS3.. So is she,lovely sort likes a bit of ruff so I heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs4Red Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Read a lot about this and extremely interested in it through my studies and coaching. It’s a lot more advanced as previously said than many of the current ways of analysing football. Still sceptics of the format etc. But certainly an interesting way of looking at games and players. Fair play to JH clearly looking past his footballing career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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