Guest Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Something that has been around for 20+ years now offending someone - shock, horror. How will the World cope if we actually have a run in the next Euros and people start singing it again? Assume fans will start getting arrested and get a criminal record for inciting some bullsh1t..... The World has turned into one crazy weird place, and expect some radio channel to ban it some time soon just to keep some pathetic minority happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRockDad Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 I'm from the Valleys of South Wales, I live in West Wales and for me, the song is iconic - Love it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 43 minutes ago, Chivs said: "Football's 30% coming home, coming home, Football's 30% coming home" Football’s popping in for a cuppa tea on the way to visit a distant relative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRed Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Rudolf Hucker said: The Scots have no idea what songs they'd sing at a major tournament and we'll probably never find out. Dae ye no remember Ally's Tartan Army, Rudi wee lad? The song that actually boasted Scotland would win the World Cup in Argentina 1978. Then they met Peru & lost 3-1. Cubillas netted twice for Peru & I seem to recall the Scots had no idea who he was such was their lack of preparation. Worth looking up the song & footage of the game. Arrogance, eh? They did it first & far better than we English. Poor old Ally McLeod, RIP, later admitted to having a few bad days in the Argentine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, BCFC1959 said: The animals depicted on the badge are 3 Leopards so may need a new song/chant! I think I saw that episode of QI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 This is the same Graeme Souness who was part of The Scottish 1978 squad who were in the words of Andy Cameron were on the march with Ally’s Army who were going shake them up when they won the World Cup cause Scotland were the greatest football team! The song also referred to representing Britain because England couldn’t do it because we didn’t quslify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, RidgeRed said: Dae ye no remember Ally's Tartan Army, Rudi wee lad? The song that actually boasted Scotland would win the World Cup in Argentina 1978. Then they met Peru & lost 3-1. Cubillas netted twice for Peru & I seem to recall the Scots had no idea who he was such was their lack of preparation. Worth looking up the song & footage of the game. Arrogance, eh? They did it first & far better than we English. Poor old Ally McLeod, RIP, later admitted to having a few bad days in the Argentine. We're on the march wi' Ally's Army We're going tae the Argentine And we'll really shake them up When we win the World Cup Cause Scotland is the greatest football team We're representing Britain And we're gaunny do or die England cannae dae it Cause they didnae qualify We're on the march wi' Ally's Army We're going tae the Argentine And we'll really shake them up When we win the World Cup Cause Scotland is the greatest football team. Scotland - truly the 15ers of international football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 The scottish make me laugh... They blast English "arrogance" on a regular basis yet they had open top buses and players paraded on the pitch in 1978. The one and only time they've had a decent team that stood a chance and they acted like they had already won it before they has even crossed hadrians wall. A loss to peru, a draw with iran and a drugs scandal later and they came back home with their tails between their legs. (we did however get a great documentary out of it.) Yet we sing a 20 year old song that basically lists our failures and we were the cause of our own downfall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Undy English said: Lots of debate about this song now Russia is out of the way. This world cup especially '3 Lions' reached number 1 once again and generated a plethora of viral social media posts. For us English, it's a football classic and sort of pokes fun at ourselves i.e. how we endure years of hurt because we never win anything. The whole viral meme and video sensations that followed were all very tongue-in-cheek and hilarious, but certainly not to be taken seriously. For a number of foreigners (Scots included in this) the song stinks of English arrogance at how we look past opponents thinking we were going to win. According to the Mail today Slaven Bilic definitely believes this, whilst Souness thinks the song should be banned: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5958037/Footballs-Coming-Home-Arrogant-English-sense-humour.html For myself, I think it's all a bit of fun - the real issue is that the rest of the world doesn't understand English humour. Can the rest of the globe really not see how this whole thing is just a giant p1sstake, or do they genuinely not have a sense of humour that's vaguely similar/comprehend-able to our own??? I think we English are a bit deluded towards what is humour sometimes. Humour has to actually be funny and relatable. We may think it’s a bit of an inside joke (mind you it’s more of a half-joke) to go around saying “it’s coming home” but it doesn’t mean other nationalities will find it the eptimone of whit. The best thing for “British humour” is taking it on the chin that we’re arrogant when it comes to football and usually get shown up. Better to laugh about it rather than getting defensive over a bit of “banter”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undy English Posted July 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, cider-manc said: The scottish make me laugh... They blast English "arrogance" on a regular basis yet they had open top buses and players paraded on the pitch in 1978. The one and only time they've had a decent team that stood a chance and they acted like they had already won it before they has even crossed hadrians wall. A loss to peru, a draw with iran and a drugs scandal later and they came back home with their tails between their legs. (we did however get a great documentary out of it.) Yet we sing a 20 year old song that basically lists our failures and we were the cause of our own downfall? Have a lot of 'sensible' Scottish mates. They no longer follow their national team because, they say, it's a hotbed of anti-English racism and a breeding ground for nationalistic SNP. Apparently it's not a nice atmosphere to be amongst, even if you are a Scot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, Undy English said: Have a lot of 'sensible' Scottish mates. They no longer follow their national team because, they say, it's a hotbed of anti-English racism and a breeding ground for nationalistic SNP. Apparently it's not a nice atmosphere to be amongst, even if you are a Scot! Im sure there are sensible scottish football fans... Unfortunately my mrs family arent any of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Ive been on a river cruise through Berlin, Dancing with the locals when the DJ played the German version. They love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 47 minutes ago, RidgeRed said: Dae ye no remember Ally's Tartan Army, Rudi wee lad? The song that actually boasted Scotland would win the World Cup in Argentina 1978. Then they met Peru & lost 3-1. Cubillas netted twice for Peru & I seem to recall the Scots had no idea who he was such was their lack of preparation. Worth looking up the song & footage of the game. Arrogance, eh? They did it first & far better than we English. Poor old Ally McLeod, RIP, later admitted to having a few bad days in the Argentine. I remember one with John Gordon Sinclair in it? It was pretty dreadful. Then there was that dirge, "Don't come Home too Soon" by Del Amitri… 2 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Ive been on a river cruise through Berlin, Dancing with the locals when the DJ played the German version. They love it. yeah, Klinsman thought it was funny, they sang it when they won in 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 31 minutes ago, Odysseus said: I think we English are a bit deluded towards what is humour sometimes. Humour has to actually be funny and relatable. We may think it’s a bit of an inside joke (mind you it’s more of a half-joke) to go around saying “it’s coming home” but it doesn’t mean other nationalities will find it the eptimone of whit. The best thing for “British humour” is taking it on the chin that we’re arrogant when it comes to football and usually get shown up. Better to laugh about it rather than getting defensive over a bit of “banter”. Does that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, Odysseus said: I think we English are a bit deluded towards what is humour sometimes. Humour has to actually be funny and relatable. We may think it’s a bit of an inside joke (mind you it’s more of a half-joke) to go around saying “it’s coming home” but it doesn’t mean other nationalities will find it the eptimone of whit. The best thing for “British humour” is taking it on the chin that we’re arrogant when it comes to football and usually get shown up. Better to laugh about it rather than getting defensive over a bit of “banter”. The whole thing started before the tournament. "if you think i'm going to get excited by this bang average team... Then youre right! It's coming home lads!" it was all jokes about how over excited/optermistic we get as a nation regardless of how good our team actually is... Basically the final bit of your post. Maybe not very funny to other nations but something all england fans can relate to. I even believed we stood a chance in 2014.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider hoss rules Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 sorry........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 simply put, its the best football song about the english national team every written, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 90 Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 So i guess if we sing "We're by far the greatest team, the world has ever seen" this season that will offend every other team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: My German friend certainly didn't understand the sentiment/English sense of humour/lyrics to the song… Basically, Souness and friends can **** off. eAM the Germans take their sense of humour very seriously. The only other nation that really understand British Humour are our friends from the Netherlands who grew up watching British programs in the original language. You only have to watch films etc dubbed into german to see that all humour is lost as the voices lose the timing and inflection of the original cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 38 minutes ago, cider-manc said: The whole thing started before the tournament. "if you think i'm going to get excited by this bang average team... Then youre right! It's coming home lads!" it was all jokes about how over excited/optermistic we get as a nation regardless of how good our team actually is... Basically the final bit of your post. Maybe not very funny to other nations but something all england fans can relate to. I even believed we stood a chance in 2014.... There's always a chance… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 1) A german side, Eintracht Frankfurt, released a version to celebrate their return to the Bundesliga: 2) An Italian website published an article explaining it to our continental friends: http://www.ilcalcioinglese.com/2018/07/09/perche-gli-inglesi-sono-fissati-con-its-coming-home/ 3) Paul Pogba sang it with the World Cup Its just a case of things either being lost in translation or flat out mistaken for arrogance. If foreign fans knew the context they would change their tune, because it's literally about hope and belief in a team that frequently lets you down over the years. Every football fan in the world (except for armchair Man City plastics) can relate to it, which is what makes it so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortia Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Graham Souness is a massive *****. Can I say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Maybe Souness should just stay home and get his CD of 'Don't Come Home Too Soon' Then again I guess you never go home too soon if you never leave home in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksy Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Newquay-Red said: Maybe Souness should just stay home and get his CD of 'Don't Come Home Too Soon' Then again I guess you never go home too soon if you never leave home in the first place! Thanks for sharing your views with us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, marksy said: Thanks for sharing your views with us? That's what a forum's for , isn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Everyone seems to know the score They’ve seen it all before They just know They’re so sure That England’s gonna throw it away Gonna blow it away How on earth can ANYONE mistake this for arrogance? 'kin' ell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Souness is an angry and bitter Scot. Said recently that England were a 'back to front' team and beat two of the three worst teams in the tournament, scraped past the cheating bastards on penalties and Sweden were ' overawed' by England. How did Scotland do Graeme? ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, CyderInACan said: Ive been on a river cruise through Berlin, Dancing with the locals when the DJ played the German version. They love it. What do they do about the "30 years of hurt" section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, downendcity said: What do they do about the "30 years of hurt" section? Sing 30 years of Gerd? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerd_Müller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, Robbored said: Souness is an angry and bitter Scot. Said recently that England were a 'back to front' team and beat two of the tree worst teams in the tournament, scraped past the cheating bastards on penalties and Sweden were ' overawed' by England. How did Scotland do Graeme? ........... Souness is an angry and bitter Scot. Is there any other type ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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